I'm back! Welcome to the one and only Starcraft 2 player-ranking for European players. The whole ranking is obviously completely subjective, but unlike power rankings, i try to be close to the reality with this list, instead of showing pure fanboyism. I watch tons of Starcraft every day and play a lot myself, being a Protoss-Player in the Grandmaster-League since its availabe. Make comments on the ranking, tell me, who player might be underrated / overrated by me. Have Fun!

17.09.2011

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EU-Grandmaster (ThisGameSux.488)

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Explanations:

Level 4: The best players in Europe. Favorites to win any (non-korean) tournament they attend.
Level 3: Elite players, capable of winning against anyone.
Level 2: Very strong players, but not the first people winning major tournements you think about.
Level 1: Strong players, capable of winning maps against any Top-Player and winning minor
tournements.
(Level 0: Good competetive players that made a name for themselves in minor tournaments, but didnt make it to Level 1 yet. Not shown in the picture, but the level exists in my own textfile.)
The Numbers 1 to 16 clarifiy my Top 16 Ranking.

Old Lists:
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Railgan

Switzerland1509 Posts

January 06 2011 21:34 GMT

how can people who don't even play at the gsl be higher rated than ret :I

Grhym

177 Posts

January 06 2011 21:40 GMT

Would be nice to see if you actually base these on numbers or just pick something that you like most.
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The list is based on my personal impression and experience, including results as well, but in the end its pretty subjective.

is a bit ambigous.

I have no idea how correct it is, but seems pretty ok. Also it looks nice with the cloud stuff

Rhokdar

Denmark240 Posts

January 06 2011 21:43 GMT

You obviously miss Actionjesuz at rank 1. Else then that, its mostly just personal opinions i suppose

Armsved

Denmark642 Posts

January 06 2011 21:46 GMT

On January 07 2011 06:43 Rhokdar wrote:
You obviously miss Actionjesuz at rank 1. Else then that, its mostly just personal opinions i suppose

Pretty much this. You could make your own with top 1 only.

DiaBoLuS

Germany1638 Posts

January 06 2011 22:01 GMT

at least i know youre joking about actionjesuz, since even i beat him^^

SmoKim

Denmark10305 Posts

January 06 2011 22:03 GMT

On January 07 2011 07:01 DiaBoLuS wrote:
at least i know youre joking about actionjesuz, since even i beat him^^

you don't beat ActionJesuz, he just decides not to 6-pool

MorroW

Sweden3522 Posts

January 06 2011 22:08 GMT

5 terrans in top 7, terran nerf inc?

Acer.ParanOid

Poland133 Posts

January 06 2011 22:09 GMT

I dont deserve to be there as well. Thanks for mentioning me tho.

FlamingTurd

United States1059 Posts

January 06 2011 22:11 GMT

#10

lol pretty cool dude

Johnranger-123

United Kingdom341 Posts

January 06 2011 22:20 GMT

#11

On January 07 2011 06:34 Sclol wrote:
how can people who don't even play at the gsl be higher rated than ret :I

The GSL is a tournament that EU users cant play in, how do you know they couldnt if they tried?
I like the layout and mostly agree with this ^^ awesome

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

January 06 2011 22:21 GMT

#12

On January 07 2011 06:34 Sclol wrote:
how can people who don't even play at the gsl be higher rated than ret :I

I'm sorry but points dont' show how good you are... 3500 looks like you could be good but have like 3k games played and do it all by all inning only. Wouldn't base too much on it :D

Hider

Denmark9447 Posts

January 06 2011 22:24 GMT

#13

Doesn't seem that far of I think.

radiatoren

Denmark1907 Posts

January 06 2011 22:42 GMT

#14

It seems pretty legit. Well done!

However it looks like a top of the pop in european Starcraft the last 4 months. I haven't seen a player like Demuslim, Hasuobs er Lucifron do well for quite some time and since you want to do this every week I am wondering about the same as Grhym. Obviously newer results should count more than older results and i think you will realize that it will become more subjective over time.

Juxx

325 Posts

January 06 2011 22:47 GMT

#15

you can't really rank players like that. I think there are elite tiers but i think in your list any of those players could take games off any of the other players.

hifriend

China7935 Posts

January 06 2011 22:48 GMT

#16

I actually agree with this overall. I would place naniwa lower and SjoW higher though, and from what I've seen naama has proven himself much more than ret has. I'm sure in about 6 months ret will fit right at the top of that list though. :p

On January 07 2011 07:47 Juxx wrote:
you can't really rank players like that. I think there are elite tiers but i think in your list any of those players could take games off any of the other players.

It's really just his opinion. It's pointless fun.

7mk

Germany10157 Posts

January 06 2011 22:58 GMT

#17

pretty cool list
Socke definitely needs to be higher than Mana though imho since Mana only recently started performing.
Sad that europe is so terran infested, not looking forward all that much to IEM Europe ^^
At least TvT is the most entertaining mirror matchup..

DiaBoLuS

Germany1638 Posts

January 07 2011 08:24 GMT

#18

wow thanks a lot, didnt expect any positive critics. ill try to update it on a weekly base (on sundays).

means, next one will be after take's homestory cup #2, 16.01.2011 ~22 cet

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

January 07 2011 08:30 GMT

#19

ok, you got every good player who has been doing well in tourneys and threw them together :D
What i would like to see, having some lesser known players you discovered. There are a couple who do not compete too much in tournaments or some who even avoid ladder, i could name 1-2, zergs speicifially

Regarding the list, Cloud is probably too high, so is Demuslim compared to his achievments, but it's really not that big of a deal. Oh, lalush too

one more bit of a mistake: you put Kuba on the picture but write Tefel on the list, fix it

Skrelt

Netherlands306 Posts

January 07 2011 08:42 GMT

#20

On January 07 2011 07:08 MorroW wrote:
5 terrans in top 7, terran nerf inc?

comments like this wanna make me put a tattoo on my forhead so people cant see the big red spot there because i am facepalming all the time...

Actionjesuz is the man, I like Jinro tho on the first spot ^^