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DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 19:02:08
July 18 2011 13:28 GMT
#161
Changes on next list so far:
BeastyQt ** --> ***
ClouD --> deleted cause of temporary inactivity
biGs --> *
Osho --> *

prolly GoOdy/Tarson 1 up
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Koorb
Profile Joined March 2011
France266 Posts
July 19 2011 15:03 GMT
#162
On July 18 2011 22:28 DiaBoLuS wrote:
Changes on next list so far:
BeastyQt ** --> ***
ClouD --> deleted cause of temporary inactivity
biGs --> *

prolly GoOdy 1 up


Hi, even though I think your rankings is quite representative of the EU scene, some things suprise me :
I'm suprised that you don't consider Elfi to be at least *, more probably **. He's doing very good in weekly events, and is IMO way better than Grubby at the moment.

I'm also suprised that SarenS is not at least *. Even though he doesn't compete in European events anymore, he is still far ahead the best french terran, always performing well in offline event such as ESL Pro Series.

Be careful, in Beastyqt propercaps, the Q is lowercase cf. TLPD

GG anyway for your work
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DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
July 25 2011 17:51 GMT
#163
New ranking will be released after MLG Anaheim.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 14:50:57
July 27 2011 14:20 GMT
#164
actually stephano is stronger than many ppl you place ahead and why no zerg 6stars ? just look at stephano tlpd history... he owns. (like on a 54-8 series
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
August 05 2011 17:59 GMT
#165
Since its impossible to divide groups like


Stephano, Nerchio, MorroW, Ret, Dimaga


White-Ra, SaSe, HasuObs, Socke, MaNa


Happy, Jinro, ClouD, DeMusliM, Tarson, BeastyQt, DieStar, TLO, GoOdy, ...


i give up on that list.
maybe someday when everything clears up a bit ill keep going on.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 08:48:53
August 08 2011 08:41 GMT
#166
I think morrow is not on that group for 1 reason : he makes WAY TOO MUCH drones ! WTF is he doing with 100 drones vs a toss, he makes 25 drones for every bases he takes instead of switching. He mb got great mechanics etc... but at this level you can't do this all the time, and now ppl know how he plays. If he works on it he can be beasty, but at the moment stephano, nerchio, ret are slightly better i think.
And i think you can't release this ranking without thinking on the different mu of the players, we know morrow is not that good in ZvZ, and instead of working on this like the other zergs did, (Stephano worked verry hard on it, dimaga too) he choosed to play terran vs zerg.
That's why he doesn't deserve to be with the other zerg in my opinion.

with the recents tourney thats:

Ret

Dimaga
Stephano
Nerchio

Morrow

Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 08 2011 09:56 GMT
#167
Sooo if Ret isn't 6 star in the next ranking, I declare it invalid.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 00:39:11
September 06 2011 00:38 GMT
#168
My list is back - hopefully better than ever before
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
FeiLing
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany428 Posts
September 06 2011 21:23 GMT
#169
New list looks good imho, not too sure about Kas though... I see him rather as lvl 3 or 3.5 maybe :p
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
September 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#170
pretty good ranking imo, just think Beastyqt should be higher but thats about it, very much agree regarding the Top, perhaps Thorzain a little bit to high but hes damn good so I guess its ok ;P
Commentatorwww.instagram.com/RotterdaM08 for pictures of cute puppies.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 07 2011 02:48 GMT
#171
Thanks for doing this! It's a great overview and it's well thought out.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 03:04:25
September 07 2011 03:01 GMT
#172
thanks a lot dudes.

@ Rotti:
Well, BeastyQt is like top 16 online, but offline, all he has been to was gamescom and he was decent, not more. prolly he deserves to be 1 stage higher, i agree. But i feel like he needs his real "brakethorugh" to legimidetly (is that acutally a word?^^) do that.
about slivko: hes on my "level 0" list right now, just like players as Bly, Vortix, Kalin, Tefel, Naama, biGs, Osho, jimpo, PredY (i give him a nick: The "inactive shadow goody terran") and about 15 more... but i dont see him making his Level 1 access so far. And i follow 80% of the shows.
I feel like his ZvP is superior of his other matchups as well :O
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
September 12 2011 21:56 GMT
#173
Next list will be released after Dreamhack Valencia.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
September 13 2011 13:48 GMT
#174
I think this one is verry good, maybe Thorzain is a little bit overrated... I'd place tarson, goody, hasuobs, nerchio and Lalush above and beastyqt instead of cloud (who did nothing since months) But the overrall is verry representative, congratz you a boss !
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:50:32
September 17 2011 21:48 GMT
#175
New List out, some movements here and there.

HF!

On September 13 2011 22:48 AIOL! wrote:
I think this one is verry good, maybe Thorzain is a little bit overrated... I'd place tarson, goody, hasuobs, nerchio and Lalush above and beastyqt instead of cloud (who did nothing since months) But the overrall is verry representative, congratz you a boss !


Well - i think ThorZaiN has just completly destroyed your argument about him
ClouD didnt show anything since months cause he didnt play for months (broken arm), but just started to show good results. BeastyQt just got upped, the rest is arguable though^^
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:59:11
September 17 2011 21:58 GMT
#176
Jinro and Lucifron on the same tier - no. Just no.

The rest of it seems perfect to me.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 22:18:49
September 17 2011 22:16 GMT
#177
Seems pretty OK, but a few things here and there:

Dunno about Kas, but I don't follow him at all (it's kinda hard tbh :D) so maybe he belongs up there.

I feel like Nerchio and Ret should be at the same level, yes, Ret has better offline results, but actually, I think Nerchio's skill level is slightly higher. Only my personal opinion though.

Last thing - protosses. I was watching a lot of SaSes and White-Ras streams and tbh, SaSe is just plain better than White-Ra. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fanboy of both, but man, SaSe will tear it up in Korea eventually. Just watch code A next week ^^
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
September 17 2011 22:22 GMT
#178
ye, i feel the same way about their skill, but white-ra showed pretty good results lately, while we dont see anything of SaSe.

Nerchio... hes good and he was in the first group of people last time, but i feel hes in a bit of a slump lately. dno if its true, maybe he prooves us wrong in some cups.

Kas won the ukraine WCG (offline!) and rips almost everything apart online. hes obviously not top 3 or so, but he belongs where he is i feel.

@ Talin: Jinro just won against SjoW and 2-0d socke, it feels like he regenerates a bit again. Lucifron is good when he is active, but he studies and therefore has like 6 weeks in a year where he rapes everyone. Hard to judge Lucifron therefore
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 17 2011 22:38 GMT
#179
I wouldn't say he's ever had a period where he raped everyone in any premier / high level tournaments, and there's a bunch of big tournament players on level 2 (Tarson, Jinro, TLO, even Goody kinda).

But I just realized he was a level higher on the last list actually o_o. So I guess a 1 tier drop is okay.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 17 2011 22:38 GMT
#180
I don't think ret deserves to be level 4 yet.
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