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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
January 04 2011 18:58 GMT
#41
On January 04 2011 02:25 enzym wrote:
I see a number of coherence issues with the statements of people here, even though the aim of this very blog was to vent disappointment/anger over the way these issues have taken form in the original thread and to help get them cleared up.

Look, people, first off gg.net apparently holds this or similar awards every year and it's not just their award and their rules, these rules also supposedly aren't anything new and not something they came up with because of IdrA.
It's also not like they excluded him because they don't like him or have a grudge with him, but because he's got a history of disrespect towards other people, users at gg.net and staff at gg.net and then casually without remorse cancelled his participation from their event. Anyone who calls gg.net unprofessional over that and not IdrA has awareness issues.
On top of that it's people on TL and people visiting gg.net that had a hard time of just letting it go. The gg.net staff was obviously content with their decision even though they'd have liked to include IdrA in the poll (as well as many other individuals, but you have to bring it down to a number you can work with).
On top of that TL staffers have been among the people criticising gg.net in a less than commendable manner.

I say all of that as someone who used to be a huge IdrA fan even before MicroMedia was formed, because I liked that he argued for what makes sense and didn't pay homage to people's feelings. He was an active user of the gg.net site and argued with people frequently. Looking back, his penalty record is a reflection of that, but I have stopped using that site a long time ago and have no idea what he got those for. Remember Greg Fields saying that he wanted to become a theoretical physicist but decided in favour of progaming then? Theoretical physics because it is precise, there is no room for conflict. Everything can be solved absolutely crystal clear. Hearing that (it was mentioned in a relatively recent interview) made perfect sense after remembering what I respected his activity for. Unfortunately IdrA has an equal disrespect towards anyone he sees as unworthy and doesn't hesitate to express that on almost every opportunity he gets. Doing it to the gg.net staff again was just crossing the line for them, and TL would do the same thing and actually does do the same thing every day - the amount of people being banned from this site for stupidity or lack of civility is simply amazing.

So please, if you criticise something then follow through with it. Otherwise your opinion...just doesn't have any merit. Hypocrisy, emotional decisions, inconsistence, incoherence, arrogance/pride are all enemies of reason.


What the hell? That's basically the same thing, you just used bigger words for the second sentence. More characters per word doesnt make your arguments any better or yourself appear any smarter, its just more pretentious. And while we're on that....wtf at the last line lol O-o
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
January 04 2011 22:29 GMT
#42
There really are 2 sides to every story. I'm trying to stay informed here.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#43
Lol IdrA bouncing from temp ban to temp ban.. i thought it was abit strange TL started in on GG; seemed a bit out of character..
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Kittenlisk
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia34 Posts
January 05 2011 12:45 GMT
#44
It's not an IdrA post without some red text after!
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Oleksandr
Profile Joined July 2010
United States227 Posts
January 05 2011 14:34 GMT
#45
There is always only one side to any story - the truth. Anything else is just an excuse to have your pie and eat it, too.
Idra: good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 05 2011 17:23 GMT
#46
Idra got some serious PR issues. I wonder when will he realize that his values not only depends on how well he plays starcraft (which by the way, although he is not bad, he is not that great either), but the way he interact with others as well. This has been shown many times already.

GG is at fault too, for behaving similarly to Idra. We have all encountered people who are mean to us in the past; but that doesn't mean we want to sink to their level.
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kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
January 05 2011 17:49 GMT
#47
On January 06 2011 02:23 Sufficiency wrote:
Idra got some serious PR issues. I wonder when will he realize that his values not only depends on how well he plays starcraft (which by the way, although he is not bad, he is not that great either), but the way he interact with others as well. This has been shown many times already.


how has idra's "bm" been at all detrimental to his sc career so far? And to say he's not that great is pretty ridiculous.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
January 05 2011 19:17 GMT
#48
If TL.net was run in similar fashion as GG.net is run, Idra would have been in a similar situation as naniwa.

As it was said before, it's GG.net best player award, not TL.net. Sure, you can disagree and spam there, but i see no reason to protect Idra for what he's done and why they have removed them.

Maybe TL.net should a contest of their own?
I am not good with quotes
Joroth
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States318 Posts
January 05 2011 19:19 GMT
#49
IdrA is my hero. People can call him bm all they want but's he's such an honorable person.
"you have buildings that are better than my race go fuck yourself" -IdrA
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 05 2011 19:30 GMT
#50
On January 04 2011 01:15 Nyxs wrote:
Imagine the TL Power Rank without Jaedong because the admins don't like him, should say enough about the credibility of such ranking.

ohohohoho the Power Rank has always had a healthy dose of bias
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8047 Posts
January 05 2011 23:25 GMT
#51
On January 06 2011 04:19 Joroth wrote:
IdrA is my hero. People can call him bm all they want but's he's such an honorable person.

Brutus is a honourable man?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
stalking.d00m
Profile Joined December 2010
213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 05:48:04
January 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#52
On January 06 2011 08:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 04:19 Joroth wrote:
IdrA is my hero. People can call him bm all they want but's he's such an honorable person.

Brutus is a honourable man?


He said 'but he is an honorable person.' NOT 'Brutus is an honorable person'. Jeez.

KittenLisk wrote :
It's not an IdrA post without some red text after!


There are exceptions to this but it is, unfortunately, true in most cases. If only he can be a little more tactful perhaps we could see him in Team Liquid living with our beloved Liquid Players... Oh, wait I think Nazgul had a heart attack. Call 911!
<3 to all fellow gamers.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8047 Posts
January 06 2011 14:32 GMT
#53
On January 06 2011 14:40 stalking.d00m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 08:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 06 2011 04:19 Joroth wrote:
IdrA is my hero. People can call him bm all they want but's he's such an honorable person.

Brutus is a honourable man?


He said 'but he is an honorable person.' NOT 'Brutus is an honorable person'. Jeez.

Pity you didn't read Shakespeare.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 31 2011 01:37 GMT
#54
what a rofl thread... so many people need to just chill the fuck out.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 31 2011 02:00 GMT
#55
On January 03 2011 20:45 Shana wrote:
Its their award. 'GOSUGAMERS Best Non-Kr Player'
They can in/exclude anyone they want.


Yes they can and all dramatic matters aside, if you exclude someone who may be viewed by the readers as the best KR player, doesn't that make your "award" seem less credible?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 04 2011 11:20 GMT
#56
Who cares.. come on just let it go.
He's a great player and all but they don't like him(with a good reason) and didn't choose him.. wouldn't all of you do the same?? I would..
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Liberty7
Profile Joined October 2010
United States36 Posts
February 05 2011 09:05 GMT
#57
On February 04 2011 20:20 shell wrote:
Who cares.. come on just let it go.
He's a great player and all but they don't like him(with a good reason) and didn't choose him.. wouldn't all of you do the same?? I would..


They don't like him because he's a better player than they are and he openly says so. He doesn't play fake humble and it, apparently, makes some people's balls shrink to a hazelnut size. Telling the truth takes balls - balls they don't have, because they chose to play safe and get along with people at the price of their integrity, honesty and pride.

They would like to think that they are just as good as he is, and in their little circle of "humble, nice buddies" they are free to think that. Truth is never a threat in their bubble, but IdrA is.


However, they will never admit to themselves of having such emotions so instead they do shit like ban him from stuff. It's an ugly display of emotionalism (by which I mean making excuses to fit emotions instead of remaining objective).
"Pride is the recognition that you are your own highest value" -- Ayn Rand
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
February 05 2011 10:35 GMT
#58
Regardless of idras behaviour (I mean 100% regardless of idras behaviour, he could have raped and killed the family of all gosugamers membmers) he should be on a poll that is about being the best player of 2010. And it is gosugamers poll and they have the "RIGHT" to do whatever they want obviously. But at the same time as they are using this "right", they are also trying to portray themselves as a starcraft 2 comunity\news site, and if such a site is biased in what is supposed to be a nonbiased article then obviously the community will react.

Team liquid CAN, and they have the "right" to make a poll for best starcraftplayer of all time, and then make a poll that only has nazgul as an option, but obviously this poll would be a joke no matter what reasoning they have that other players are not included.
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