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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1016 Posts
December 25 2010 17:41 GMT
#1
So, I've been following GSL since it launched, buying season ticket every GSL to watch VODs. Of course the first GSL was exciting with SC2 being new and all, plus I'm a huge Tasteless fan. GSL2 was cool as more BW progamers participated and VODs were available in HD.

However I've lost interest as GSL3 went further and further... I've went to watch most matches in the earlier seasons to only watch foreigners or players like Boxer/July. I didn't even watch the Jinro semifinal or even the final.

I think I'm done with GSL for now, and won't buy any more tickets. Trust me I really love the commentating but there are just too many games being broadcasted too often for me to follow, plus there still don't seem to be any standards gameplay wise. It's still basically one huge fight with clumped up armies and that's it. How many games have been over 20 minutes? I don't think I've seen any game longer than 30 minutes yet...

I've been watching BW progaming for five years now and I still find it a lot more exciting and skillful than SC2. I play SC2 now and then but it's not often. I don't think SC2 will get as big as BW or anywhere close, e-sports wise. At least not until the expansion.

Anyone else share the same feeling?

*****
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 25 2010 17:44 GMT
#2
I haven't bought any tickets, but I think the majority of GSL viewers would agree with you. Half of the games being 2rax or proxy 4rax all-in makes it hella boring :/
:)
TicketoHELL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada368 Posts
December 25 2010 17:48 GMT
#3
skillwise it will increase with the new system so we might see more long games so no worries=)
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Blyadischa
Profile Joined April 2010
419 Posts
December 25 2010 17:50 GMT
#4
Agree, the GSL has too many seasons in 1 year, and SC2 is just not a good game right now with all the maps being small and simple as hell compared to BW maps.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 17:52:08
December 25 2010 17:51 GMT
#5
Too many tournaments for a game that's only a few months after release.

People should just play and have fun with the game before tournaments spring up that base prize money around a game that's either a) incomplete and has balance questions or b) is balanced but none of the players have remotely seen the games true potential.

And yes. The game got boring fast too.
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 25 2010 17:54 GMT
#6
while i agree there there is much to be desired in the gameplay, i think we will get there eventually whether it be through expansions or whatever. youve been watching bw for 5 years - it was 7 years old when you started watching it. ive been watching it for a decade. it was not always this good, let me tell you.

ill be getting a gsl4 ticket
:O
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 25 2010 17:57 GMT
#7
sc2 got boring after a couple of weeks, glad Blizz was kind enough to refund me my money BW forever~
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
December 25 2010 17:58 GMT
#8
I think you complain too much, yes GSL 3 was by far and away the worst of them all, but have faith the next one will be awesome
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
December 25 2010 18:14 GMT
#9
I've enjoyed just about every GSL match I've watched. Even if they have been somewhat repetitive, I find it interesting to see the minor differences that people use to tailor the marine rush (for example) to their style or to a specific map.

If anything has slowed my "GSL Fever", it would be the 9 games-per-day period during the ro64. My brain can simply not handle that many games within the span of a week and when I start to get in the habit of missing games it starts to screw with my head a little.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 25 2010 18:22 GMT
#10
You had the luxury of watching BW after it had already been well established. Welcome to the beginning days of an eSport, it only gets better from here.
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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
December 25 2010 18:24 GMT
#11
On December 26 2010 02:50 Blyadischa wrote:
Agree, the GSL has too many seasons in 1 year, and SC2 is just not a good game right now with all the maps being small and simple as hell compared to BW maps.

What is happening?

I never thought I'd see the day when people complained about too MUCH starcraft.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
December 25 2010 18:39 GMT
#12
On December 26 2010 03:24 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 02:50 Blyadischa wrote:
Agree, the GSL has too many seasons in 1 year, and SC2 is just not a good game right now with all the maps being small and simple as hell compared to BW maps.

What is happening?

I never thought I'd see the day when people complained about too MUCH starcraft.


What if xmas would be celebrated every day of the year? It would lose its 'magic' and would become boring.

SC must be taken in the right doses, otherwise you just get bored of it.
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red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
December 25 2010 18:42 GMT
#13
I think it probably had some of the best games overall. I didn't care for the change to the map system, felt like they were just favoring some players(As if the initial seedings werent helping some players enough). The finals were better than GSL2 overall.
Broom
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 25 2010 18:46 GMT
#14
There was a ridiculous amount of shitty games in GSL3. I'm sure there were some gems amongst the piles of garbage but the sheer volume of one base games put me off the tournament completely. Players have to do what gives them their best chance of winning but I hate watching it
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
December 25 2010 18:48 GMT
#15
Sigh. Why so cynical? Yeah I luv my BW too, but seriously I'm fed to the teeth with all the BW supporter=SC2 Anti moods going on.
It seems the only real obstacle facing the spread of SC2 as an E-sport is ironically the BWomgsogoodSC2socheesyfornoobsihopeitgoesaway element. I really wish they would act with more affection towards the game that is derived from BW and is in its infancy as an E-sport and with the complete expansions cud definitely become as good if not better than BW!
Stop being so cruel towards SC2 and show a little more love as expected from a BW fan. OMG!! And I thought the Halo/WoW crowd were the SC2 haterz. Turns out its US, the BW fans and that just saddens me...
Personally, I enjoyed all the GSL casts and I cannot wait for next year just like I cannot wait to see JD own MSL and Kal hopefully not choke at his best chance to win OSL(I know i will be let down in the latter lol.)
I'm glad OP bought all the passes and I hope he reconsiders his decision, not because of anything I write, but because he actually misses watching GSL, inspite of his current sentiment.
Merry Christmas!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 25 2010 18:56 GMT
#16
blizzard is shoving ESPORTS down the throat and their new game just isn't as good for esports as BW is

the tournament cycle is WAY too short also, with what, a full tournament in less than two months?
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 25 2010 18:57 GMT
#17
For what its worth there was a game in the finals that was over 30 minutes.

Its unfortunate that a lot of maps don't play out like that because it was a really fun, interesting game.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 25 2010 18:59 GMT
#18
On December 26 2010 03:24 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 02:50 Blyadischa wrote:
Agree, the GSL has too many seasons in 1 year, and SC2 is just not a good game right now with all the maps being small and simple as hell compared to BW maps.

What is happening?

I never thought I'd see the day when people complained about too MUCH starcraft.


People have been whining for years that there are too many games in proleague and it dilutes the quality of play. Thats not at all new to TL.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
December 25 2010 19:03 GMT
#19
It is too much. And without proleague you don't know anything about the players half the time. It's just a messed up way of doing things harking straight back to the SC early days. eSports has evolved and should be done how BW has been setup, even if KeSPA isn't involved it should be done the same way.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 19:14:11
December 25 2010 19:12 GMT
#20
I still haven't watched a GSL match. Since it became the cool thing to do to scoff at any mention of the word "imbalance", i've just accepted that it's going to be a cesspool of terran cheese until something changes in the game. I'm so tired of all these random tournaments having TvT finals, and It's frustrating watching the 5000 new competitive Terran players walking all over everyone else with only 6 months of playing experience and the free advantage of playing a race much easier than Protoss was in BW.

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