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Being Competitive Part 5 Final: Passion
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MightyAtom
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Blisse
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Ryps
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To be a True Realistic is to be an Optimist I am a deeply realistic person, so much so, I'm optimistic. Not blindly so, but I know the world sucks, I know things aren't fair, I know people are bad, but I also know that if I simply accepted that, then what would be the point in living? These are the conditions of life, but even if it does suck in many ways, I need to have hope that I can make it better, that things will be better and that I should try to make it better, after all, then why do I even have a life then if not to try. A lot of people say its better to be pessimistic, that the worse things that could happen will happen. So you can be prepared for anything. | ||
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besiger
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I dont think im passionate about a lot of things in my life, but whenever my father takes me with him to help out with his construction work, I enjoy doing things quicker than he expects. Be it digging ditches, unloading a truck of cinderblocks or shoveling around a ton of sand, I never stop and it makes me feel good to do something he though he would need 2 people for, or twice the time. I guess I enjoy it because im helping my family, and theres passion in that. Just remember Dave, if you need a ditch dug or a truck unloaded, im your go to guy  | ||
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PanoRaMa
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Are you using TL as the main location for your blog now? Your typepad blog has been down for a while. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
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Gliche
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MightyAtom
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@ PanoRaMa: I'm going to get that more professionally done by the end of the month, so i'll be posting everything there, but for now, things are being posted here; I got annoyed at the formating function there, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And good luck, you have the hardest job in the world. @Gliche thx, its my passion ^^, but for everyone that does accomplish something a bit more, of course getting there is never straighforward in terms of our character development or the actions we take. gl hf @mardi well, I'll write a book when my companies are all launched and things are going well or else I'm in a state of despair and then do it then keke, but thx ^^ | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On November 18 2010 01:18 Drey wrote: good read but I dont know about this part A lot of people say its better to be pessimistic, that the worse things that could happen will happen. So you can be prepared for anything. I think those people are just worrying, life is life, and its a single life and we need to experience it to the fullest, but my point is that as a true realist that has seen a lot of bad shit in the world, I'm still not jaded by it, I don't ignore it and I also don't accept it, because if I did just accept it, I would think that we as the human race should forget about existing, but I realize that even though the world is so damn shitty, you have to have hope and you have try to be better or else what is the point. Even though I know the world is a shitty place, i still have kids, am I a sadist who wants to bring in a child into a shitty world? No, I have a hope that my son will live life to the fullest and do good where he can and stay out of trouble when he can and fight when he has to. If people were true pessimists and really knew how shitty the world was, instead of being 1st world complainers and haters, they would be left with a choice: either have hope or just end it. Thats just imo though. I hate complainers. ^^ | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On November 18 2010 01:24 besiger wrote: Another quality Dave blog. I dont think im passionate about a lot of things in my life, but whenever my father takes me with him to help out with his construction work, I enjoy doing things quicker than he expects. Be it digging ditches, unloading a truck of cinderblocks or shoveling around a ton of sand, I never stop and it makes me feel good to do something he though he would need 2 people for, or twice the time. I guess I enjoy it because im helping my family, and theres passion in that. Just remember Dave, if you need a ditch dug or a truck unloaded, im your go to guy I think that is it ^^ and I need you to do a lot more that the above, not to take away from that noble profession though. | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On November 18 2010 01:51 KurtistheTurtle wrote: I don't understand what you're saying near the end about things that make us unnecessarily vulnerable. What are those? Idealism mostly; you want to help, you sacrifice your time and you put everything into it, you are betrayed by the ones you wanted to help, no one understands how much you've sacrificed for the people whether it be as a student council representative, save the SCBW group or simply helping your parents out more than you should and not getting on with your life. Also, doing things for the sake of being appreciated for whatever reason, but trying to be a good caring person. Now for example: I post on TL and on my own blog, but its for my friends and for my community that I'm a part of at TL and I specific say, its for geeks. Now the stuff that I write, I have endure PAIN to get to, and while I'm sure if I wrote on some business site my comment or made it available to general university business students in management, I'd get a lot of hits, but I'd also have to spend a lot of time replying to posts and I'm sure it would be mixed of positive and negatives. Now, whatever negative post I get, I really don't mind to reply back to it after some thought and its worth it, because I'm part of TL, but for some random poster who I exposed myself to who is to ignorant to ever be in a position to apply what I've written, why the hell should I even waste one milisecond replying to this guy or giving a crap what he thinks? There is also a matter of doing more good; I'm not trying to make an issue about opportunity cost, but here is something funny, I use to work for the church and did my masters in divinity theology to be a minister, long story, but my dad is a minister and I really liked theology and preaching, but hated the church administration and church counselling parts (I would be a really bad shepperd, I'd only let the strong sheep survive.lol) So, after I get into business my dad sits me down and says, Son, wtf happened to you, why do this, what will money do compared to you as a minister. And I said, 'Dad, look, lets be honest here, if I was a minister, my church would be like 500 people and they'd probably all leave because of some scandal that happens because of me, or I could make a crap load of money and donate it to the church and they can build bigger churches, why not, you know I'd do that if I made a crap load of cash,' and my dad looks at me and says, 'good point son, good luck.' and that was the last time we talked about it. But in a lot of ways, me being a minister was too much exposure, too much vunerability in how I wanted to express how I cared. I don't need to care about everyone, because I can't and I am selective about how I spend my time and its taken time to do that. I like to smoke, I like to drink, I like to fight (in the past and for good reasons, but liked it nevertheless) I like to play rugby and watch violent sports, i do swear a lot, and while I wouldn't be romantically involved with someone bisexual- ah no, woman would be fine, but i wouldn't cause I'm married; I wouldn't experiment on the gay side of things but I have nothing against being gay and I reckon if God can love a fucker like me, I'm pretty sure most of the gay people in the world are a lot better of person than me. But I can say all of this, because I'm not minister, if someone saw this who was part of my church, damn that would be the scandal that I'm talking about keke! So, you care about something, as you develop that sense of how to express it, without the unnecessary vunerablities, of course any time you care you become vunerable, you do hurt then you were passionate about something and it fails, but it comes with the territory , but don't be a freaking target, that's all I'm saying. cheers ^^ | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
All these make me really sad that TL meetup all those years ago didn't happen. I guess this was when you were still working for PwC. There's actually a PwC building here in Atlanta and when I pass it sometimes I am reminded of you and your posts. My career plans are to end up semi-permanently in Korea so maybe we can talk one day before you get too big for all of us! Sugo | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
lets be honest here, if I was a minister, my church would be like 500 people and they'd probably all leave because of some scandal that happens because of me haha, you're a frickin horndog. drunken horny priest on the loose! you get 3 shots during confession (father, son & holy spirit!) and offerings go towards an open bar during service. I would go to that church. That would be fucking awesome.Idealism mostly; you want to help, you sacrifice your time and you put everything into it, you are betrayed by the ones you wanted to help, no one understands how much you've sacrificed for the people whether it be as a student council representative, save the SCBW group or simply helping your parents out more than you should and not getting on with your life. To condense this, Helping others/something you care about not for their purpose but as a function of yourself while minimizing the negative aspects of the process. I've never consciously thought about this, but I do it with women. Also, doing things for the sake of being appreciated for whatever reason, but trying to be a good caring person. This whole concept is still cranking around in my noggin, I "get it" but haven't had an "aha!" moment yet where I can directly apply it to my life. Anyway, thanks for posting. You directly talk about subjects intuitive to me but I've never thought about, and somehow your spelling & grammar mistakes make it easier to understand.So if you ever do write a book, don't revise it too much | ||
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Durak
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Could you expand on the "We Need Routine as Organic Beings" section in Part 4: Discipline? I used to have a great routine when I did organized sports. For example, I'd wake up at 5am, eat breakfast, make lunch, drive to the pool and swim, walk to high school, do my school stuff, walk back to the pool, swim again in the evening, drive home, and relax until I bed at 9:30. These days, I wake up at random times depending on when my university class is, sometimes make lunch (don't have good things to make it with at home because I don't have a shopping+lunch making routine anymore), work at university+mess around, head home and waste the rest of the day. I waste so much more time and everything extra seems like an ordeal (like working out, making time for friends outside of university). Any suggestions on how to be flexible with my tasks in my schedule while still maintaining an efficient routine? | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
Get a good planner. By good, I mean it has a calendar/every day you can plan from like 6am till 9pm and have space to write shit, and room for scratch paper or a notepad. Write in all your classes, meals, sleep, work, meetings, all your predefined commitments. Include Commuting time, account for everything and overestimate. Then write in your workout times, leisure activities (like 1 hour for sc), and everything else along those lines (MAKE TIME FOR YOUR SOCIAL ACTIVITIES). Plan out 2 weeks this way as best you can. Now, this is the part which will help you out, fill in your free time and highlight it. like if you're free from 2:30-3:20, write that in and then write FREE TIME and highlight it. This is the actual amount of time you have to work on stuff every day. You are NOT allowed to work more than this even if you want to. write a massive want-to-do list, have sections for academic, social and professional. Prioritize everything, A - you need to do B - will become A if you don't get on it C - you'd like to do it but not crucial (sending a letter to somebody you haven't in a while). Then make another section of stuff you can do without noticing time go by, make section of those things. Now as for 5 things a day, sometimes you need more and sometimes less but generally aim for that. Choose 5 things off the list, going by priority, and plan the hardest ones right before you have good stuff or fill in the time after the hard stuff with the final section of stuff you can do without noticing time go by. Your goal is to prevent things from becoming A priority as much as possible. When you do something, you need at least 30 mins of free time. Go to a location where you'll have no distractions and completely concentrate on it for 30 mins, you can go longer as time or inspiration allows. For big projects and overwhelming things (like for me a 10-pg paper I have to give a presentation over for history -- I have no idea what the harsh-grading professor expects or who I will be presenting to over subject matter and sources I've never dealt with and aren't always in English) make a reverse deadline and break it down. With this paper, I gave myself of a ton of leverage with time because finding applicable sources could've been really hard, but it wasn't. for my paper, Turn in -- Dec 3 Final Draft done to Revise/Proofread -- Nov 25 First Draft -- Nov 4 Additional Research -- Oct 28 Thesis/Outline Developed -- Oct 23 Secondary Sources -- Oct 21 Primary Sources -- Oct 16 have a little journal or notebook with all this. it doesn't have to be neat, it just has to keep everything in one place. write down all your assignments in your planner somewhere, and every morning during breakfast whip it out and realign everything from the previous day/plan out your tasks for the day. Beyond deadlines, don't plan when things need to be done (like 4 pgs of notes by 4:00 pm.) if you need to, plan when you're going to START (like start at 3:00pm and your goal (4 pgs of notes). That's what works for me | ||
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TossFloss
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MightyAtom
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@TossFloss: thx, will try, I think I've pretty much written out most of the basics, other than some really practical things, I'll focus on what is going on with my companies in the future, but again ^^. @KurtistheTurtle LOL, it would be a terrible church, we'd get branded as a cult and probably exiled from our country, but in terms of ah ha moments or so, a lot of things in business and in general maturity need experience and time to subconsciously reflect on it; insight is only insight if it instantly recognizable as such because it is simply something you've always been kinda of thinking about, but just never articulated into a firm conclusion, but its something that suddenly makes perfect sense. So someone who isn't experienced would say a lot of times, 'so what, that is just common sense' because they don't have the experience to realize the depth and the significance of it because they've never thought about it. So, don't force anything, if it doesn't pop out, just put in the back of your mind and just live you life, don't overly speculate these kinds of things or else you'll go round and round in a nutty circle; these things are just to help the process not to give you an final answer for some life problem. ^^ So just live, work and party! | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On November 18 2010 05:24 Durak wrote: I just read all five parts of your Being Competitive series (put them off before because I didn't think I'd have enough time to read and digest the entire entry) and it was amazing. I'm a business student in my graduating year so your examples illustrate your points well for me. Could you expand on the "We Need Routine as Organic Beings" section in Part 4: Discipline? I used to have a great routine when I did organized sports. For example, I'd wake up at 5am, eat breakfast, make lunch, drive to the pool and swim, walk to high school, do my school stuff, walk back to the pool, swim again in the evening, drive home, and relax until I bed at 9:30. These days, I wake up at random times depending on when my university class is, sometimes make lunch (don't have good things to make it with at home because I don't have a shopping+lunch making routine anymore), work at university+mess around, head home and waste the rest of the day. I waste so much more time and everything extra seems like an ordeal (like working out, making time for friends outside of university). Any suggestions on how to be flexible with my tasks in my schedule while still maintaining an efficient routine? First, ^^, I was exactly in the same boat with rugby, now thing is, some times we need a time to just relax, let go and mess around, but it shouldn't be at the expense of our performance. Now I agree with what Kurtis as written for someone who is really busy and have a lot of things to do; but for me you have a lot of time on your hands and a random/flexible schedule. The easy answer is simply do more things that you have to be committed to and it will force you to get back into a routine, like join the varsity swim team again or something. But, as soon as you don't have that major investment of time anymore, you'll just revert back to normal. But this is the natural state of being, there is nothing wrong with it, its just normal; when you're in a routine, you're entire mind set is more efficient, but the real trick is to keep that mind set whether you are busy or not, so that when you want to step things up, you're not caught with your pants down or suffer from burn out. Honestly, the only way to have a routine and be flexible is to have a routine that is in the early morning only; so everything that you need to do in the morning and leave the rest of the day free and open. So wake up at 6 am, go work out, go do your day's readings, and go for your jog and catch up on all your finances in the morning before 9 and then just leave the rest of the day as is. If you still have too much time doing nothing, just make a commitment during that time. Like a club or something that makes you commit. Thing is, routine is there to help manage our busy schedules and make us more efficient, if you aren't that busy and just want a routine to clear your mind and make you feel more productive, you need busy up your schedule a bit more, or just relax and enjoy this last moment of your life when you have this much free time, because if you were in a competitive routine before, trust me, when you get busy again with work, you'll naturally get back into that mode, i wouldn't worry too much about it ^^ | ||
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Durak
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HeavOnEarth
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How do you gain it back? I love routine i absolutely fucking love sleeping at 10pm waking up at 5-7am and jogging/ eating subways or something healthy every day, feeling refreshed and aware. Maybe even happy. But , i am emotional, even when something tiny and unexpected happens that i wasnt expecting it throws me off, puts me on sick monkey tilt and i explode. ( see first paragraph to why im like this, and my previous post in your blog about routine) I don't even know anymore. Although, I am 100% certain i have the ability to go far in anything- literally anything i choose to do, and i mean this in the cockiest way possible. I just keep getting indirectly fucked by the stupidest shit. Mostly because i set myself up for it, by that i mean i procrastinate , i don't prepare , i cut corners. because i have no routine, which leads to this, which leads to having no routine. this doesn't even make sense what im posting but hopefully you can understand me better than i understand myself. Anyways I'm going the whole psychiatrist/ doctor/ advice from intelligent people such as yourself. route. Gonna talk to every advisor in my university till i get my shit together, because i am completely screwing things up atm, and im not exactly sure why/how to fix it. You mentioned before it that its because i haven't found something that im passionate about but i have no clue what to look for. Trying out a whole bunch of shit though. Comp sci/math/detective stuff. | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On November 22 2010 15:50 HeavOnEarth wrote: When everything goes wrong / something unexpected happens, even if you were 110% prepared for such an event, and you try to overcome this through sheer brute force, but you fail. not just your "oh i tried my best, i have no regrets" but a soul-shattering experience that leaves a huge chip in your confidence- (story of my life, but im a resilient kind of person, just new to failure) How do you gain it back? I love routine i absolutely fucking love sleeping at 10pm waking up at 5-7am and jogging/ eating subways or something healthy every day, feeling refreshed and aware. Maybe even happy. But , i am emotional, even when something tiny and unexpected happens that i wasnt expecting it throws me off, puts me on sick monkey tilt and i explode. ( see first paragraph to why im like this, and my previous post in your blog about routine) I don't even know anymore. Although, I am 100% certain i have the ability to go far in anything- literally anything i choose to do, and i mean this in the cockiest way possible. I just keep getting indirectly fucked by the stupidest shit. Mostly because i set myself up for it, by that i mean i procrastinate , i don't prepare , i cut corners. because i have no routine, which leads to this, which leads to having no routine. this doesn't even make sense what im posting but hopefully you can understand me better than i understand myself. Anyways I'm going the whole psychiatrist/ doctor/ advice from intelligent people such as yourself. route. Gonna talk to every advisor in my university till i get my shit together, because i am completely screwing things up atm, and im not exactly sure why/how to fix it. You mentioned before it that its because i haven't found something that im passionate about but i have no clue what to look for. Trying out a whole bunch of shit though. Comp sci/math/detective stuff. Give me a day or so to get back to you, I'm busy like a mofo, like can't breath, haven't slept for 2 days busy, but I'm going to get back to you with a proper reply, but lets put in this way, I wanted to drop out of university in my 3rd and 4th year nearly every single day until I graduated and if it wasn't for my close professors who were my advisors asking me to just trust them, I would have dropped out because I felt as though nothing in my life was moving forward. What you're going through is normal for those who reach and people normally don't reach. | ||
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gchan
United States654 Posts
On November 22 2010 15:50 HeavOnEarth wrote: When everything goes wrong / something unexpected happens, even if you were 110% prepared for such an event, and you try to overcome this through sheer brute force, but you fail. not just your "oh i tried my best, i have no regrets" but a soul-shattering experience that leaves a huge chip in your confidence- (story of my life, but im a resilient kind of person, just new to failure) How do you gain it back? I love routine i absolutely fucking love sleeping at 10pm waking up at 5-7am and jogging/ eating subways or something healthy every day, feeling refreshed and aware. Maybe even happy. But , i am emotional, even when something tiny and unexpected happens that i wasnt expecting it throws me off, puts me on sick monkey tilt and i explode. ( see first paragraph to why im like this, and my previous post in your blog about routine) I don't even know anymore. Although, I am 100% certain i have the ability to go far in anything- literally anything i choose to do, and i mean this in the cockiest way possible. I just keep getting indirectly fucked by the stupidest shit. Mostly because i set myself up for it, by that i mean i procrastinate , i don't prepare , i cut corners. because i have no routine, which leads to this, which leads to having no routine. this doesn't even make sense what im posting but hopefully you can understand me better than i understand myself. Anyways I'm going the whole psychiatrist/ doctor/ advice from intelligent people such as yourself. route. Gonna talk to every advisor in my university till i get my shit together, because i am completely screwing things up atm, and im not exactly sure why/how to fix it. You mentioned before it that its because i haven't found something that im passionate about but i have no clue what to look for. Trying out a whole bunch of shit though. Comp sci/math/detective stuff. I know exactly what you're going through because I was there myself. When it comes to my passions, I too am quite emotional (which is uncharacteristic of me). Once I get derailed, I tended to spiral into self loathing, laziness, and depression. But now that I'm a few years older and a few years wiser, what I've come to realize is that a large part of this had to do with with perspective. The reality is that things are never going to be perfect, things are never going to turn out the way you want them to, and things will never truly line up for you. There will always be uncertainties and there will always be the doubt that you can't do it, but what can you do? You just have to take the plunge and go do it. You can see all the doctors, psychiatrists, professors you want, but ultimately, you have to take the plunge, and you have to do it. Don't get me wrong--it's not easy to do. And when I was younger, I would linger in doubt for long periods of time before actually doing anything. You point out that you love the routine of waking up early, working out, etc; the thing you have to keep in mind is that it's not the routine itself thats significant, but rather, it's the fact that every single day, you are taking the plunge, you are going to do the things you set out to do. You will never know how it will turn out, but you go and do it anyway. Every day that you go out and do this, you will realize that it becomes easier and easier. And why is that? It's because your learning period, your recovery period, is getting shorter and shorter. You will undoubtedly get derailed in your routine and what you want to achieve, but if you still keep with your active routine, you're effectively reducing the time period you have to learn from it. And trust me, you will learn from it quicker and quicker. One thing to keep in mind is that I'm not saying to never reflect on what you do by keeping busy. In fact, I'm saying the opposite--the importance of keeping the routine is that you are learning from every situation you are put into every single day. The routine will simply teach you do learn quicker and to adapt quicker. A lot of our learning process is through experience, and you're not going to get any learn anything if all you do is sit and reflect, right? Just make sure that you don't go too far on the other end and never reflect on your life. Just have faith in yourself and go take the plunge; do what you need to do. But of course knowing what you need to do is a whole other topic. | ||
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