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Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 09:08:45
November 11 2010 07:49 GMT
#1
Yep!

In the spring i wrote an article together with a professor, we submitted it to Dalton Transactions (A pretty acknowledged magazine) and since then it's been going back and forth with corrections and whatnot. In june i got a last email from my professor asking me to look through the article one last time before submission - after that he was on paternity leave and we had radio silence

SO today i met him on the bus and he told me i should go home and google myself! lo and behold, i am now a published writer :D

I realize that this might not mean much to alot of people here - alot of you probably have published papers but as i am only just starting my masters, this is by far my greatest academic achievement, so i'm pretty damn pumped. Also this might make it somewhat easier getting to write a PhD in a few years if i want to do that

The article started out being about alzheimers disease ( tau proteins and beta amyloids ) but ended up being a more quantum chemical thing about a class of proteins called metallothioneins with MT-3 having a large presence in the brain (and some relation to neurodegenerate diseases) for reasons unknown. First step to figuring out what its relation to Alzheimers is, is to investigate it thoroughly. My hope is that in 20 years this little piece of information will have been one of a million little steps on the way to solving this disease

I dunno how much anyone is going to be able to use it for, but i thought i'd post the abstract anyways

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Electronic structures of Zn2+ and Cd2+ thiolate clusters found in metallothioneins (MT) have been obtained using density functional theory. We have found that the inherent asymmetry of cluster architectures gives rise to seven distinct metal sites. Whereas the non-strained bond lengths of such tetrathiolate complexes are found to be 2.60 Å and 2.39 Å for Cd–S and Zn–S, in the MT clusters four characteristic terminal and bridging bonds are observed with average lengths 2.55 Å (Cd–St); 2.35 Å (Zn–St); 2.62 Å (Cd–Sb); and 2.42 Å (Zn–Sb). For each stoichiometry of Zn2+ and Cd2+, all possible isomers have been characterized and ranked according to relative free energy and metal ion selectivity. The most stable distribution at low Cd2+ concentration is computed to be Zn4 + CdZn2, whereas at 2thin space (1/6-em):thin space (1/6-em)1 Cd2+thin space (1/6-em):thin space (1/6-em)Zn2+ concentration, only heteroclusters are thermodynamically stable, explaining experimental data. The presence of two different clusters in MTs must and can be rationalized already in their intrinsic differences. The results indicate that the asymmetry allows for Zn2+ transfer to various molecular targets having different thresholds for Zn2+ binding, while maintaining detoxification sites.

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or http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2010/DT/c0dt00087f (i'm martin, kasper is my prof)

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you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
November 11 2010 07:50 GMT
#2
I don't know jack about science, but congratulations!

You must feel great. Hard work pays off, yeah?
Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
November 11 2010 07:53 GMT
#3
It did in this case - but it was so damn hard work, i had no clue about quantum anything before i started this project.. so i kinda had to educate myself through maybe a semesters(or more..) worth of physics classes
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
November 11 2010 07:56 GMT
#4
very nice! first of many, right?

I submitted a paper recently and I'll find out if it got accepted in 3 weeks xD
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 11 2010 07:57 GMT
#5
gj man that's quite an accomplishment.
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
November 11 2010 07:58 GMT
#6
gz 5/5 for science!
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RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
November 11 2010 07:58 GMT
#7
Heh, saw the title and thought you'd been published in Science.

Still, pretty impressive to get published in a respected mag, and this makes you seem about 1000x better for any papers you want to publish in the future.
MitternachtEVE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 08:03:54
November 11 2010 08:03 GMT
#8
Congrats thats pretty Epic. I'll have my associates soon in Biology and not looking foreword to having to write in perfect Nerd I Actual have to read to one science paper and write a summary for my BIO II course every 2 weeks so maybe I'll sneak this one in if I have access at uni. Congrats again on being published.
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-Genome-
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia156 Posts
November 11 2010 08:37 GMT
#9
Nice one. I got the gist of the abstract, but I don't see what relevance it has to alzheimers? I did a project on it last semester so I'm up to date with the beta amyloid/tau protein clusters etc.
Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 09:01:17
November 11 2010 09:00 GMT
#10
Well it's an indirect relation ( it's been shown that MT-3 expression is increased in alzheimer's brains), my theory is, that it's helping in the folding of the amyloids, thus increasing the progress of the disease - this is probably (i think..) linked to the ability to bind Cd, Zn and Cu. As a Cu bound MT-3 will increase the speed at which plaques and tangles form. ( this is all from my recollection from 6 months ago, might be a little off - but it's something like that :D)

Anyways, this is very basic research - someone found a correlation between MT-3 and Alzheimer's so i investigated the protein
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
November 11 2010 09:05 GMT
#11
Well done sir! (an aside: it's "lo and behold" with "lo" being an archaic shortening of "look")

Here's to many more in the future.
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Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
November 11 2010 09:09 GMT
#12
Aight, ninja edit for spelling then
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
November 11 2010 09:18 GMT
#13
Congratulation!!! x10 I will take my time reading your paper, although I don't know a lot in this field (yet), lol.

I really understand how you feel. I just published my first article too, as undergraduate student, on Tetrahedron (I work under organic chemistry Professor), and it really did feel great to have the hard work paid off, especially when you are only undergraduate student (or non Ph.D. student). And the paper really helps me finding places for my Ph.D. study.

By the way, what field are you studying? Are you in the medical research, physical organic, or in the bio-inorganic field?
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 09:20:59
November 11 2010 09:19 GMT
#14
Very big congrats for your success!

EDIT: I almost had a paper published, on the design of learning management websites, it just got turned down, so I can imagine what you're feeling now
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
November 11 2010 09:40 GMT
#15
That's pretty amazing tbh. Nice one.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
November 11 2010 10:00 GMT
#16
Major accomplishment ... nice job!
Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 10:21:55
November 11 2010 10:21 GMT
#17
I'm currently in medicinal chemistry - sadly it's not what i expected. I dont like synthetic chem or being in the lab What i want to do is work with proteins on a theoretical medical level, so i've taken every bio class available to me. This article was done during the writing of my bachelors paper (about MT's and alzheimer's) and i guess you can call it bioinorganic.

I'm going to travel south east asia for the next 4-6 months, and during that time i'll probably decide what direction to take on my Studies. Dont think it really matters before my Dr. Phil tho.
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
November 11 2010 10:40 GMT
#18
Hey, very nice . The work I did during my bachelors thesis was actually related to the Alzheimers disease :D.
I tried to synthesize ligands which selectively bind zinc, to link it to fluorophores and then use this system to investigate what role zink plays in the signal transmission in to brain. The short time of a bachelors thesis (~10 weeks) was of course not nearly enough for this, so I ended up just doing the ligands (which turned out to prefer copper over zinc...).
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
November 11 2010 10:42 GMT
#19
Congratulations! I remember the thrill of my first (and to date, only) publication, it's a big accomplishment and you should be proud of it!
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
MrWinkles
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States200 Posts
November 11 2010 11:38 GMT
#20
Once again TL shows only smart people and cannon rushers play starcraft
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
November 11 2010 11:45 GMT
#21
Congratulations. Respect for the hard work and dedication. Good luck in your further studies, and help prevent me from suffering Alzheimers
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 11 2010 12:05 GMT
#22
Congratulations!

You have every right to be as excited as you are (:
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
November 11 2010 12:13 GMT
#23
On November 11 2010 19:21 Ao_Jun wrote:
I'm currently in medicinal chemistry - sadly it's not what i expected. I dont like synthetic chem or being in the lab What i want to do is work with proteins on a theoretical medical level, so i've taken every bio class available to me. This article was done during the writing of my bachelors paper (about MT's and alzheimer's) and i guess you can call it bioinorganic.

I'm going to travel south east asia for the next 4-6 months, and during that time i'll probably decide what direction to take on my Studies. Dont think it really matters before my Dr. Phil tho.


Yeah, I kinda understand that. Synthetic chemistry involves a lot of wet-lab works so if you don't like to stick around in the lab, it would be painful to study it. But well, I guess the postgraduate study would require us to work really hard anyway, total synthesis field is just working too much, lol (oh and the field is also very notorious too ).

From your post; if you like the works you did for the paper, then I think the physical-bio-(in)organic field should suit you (yeah, if I remember correctly, there's a field like this one ). From what I learned, the field deals with the underlying physical properties in organic reaction within the organisms, like how the enzymes work from physical chemist's point of view. It's theoretical, yet applicable too.

Oh and if you plan to travel to Thailand, you can pm me and I might be able to give a tip or two for traveling in Thailand. Hope you have fun with your travel too.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
November 11 2010 14:48 GMT
#24
On November 11 2010 21:13 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 19:21 Ao_Jun wrote:
I'm currently in medicinal chemistry - sadly it's not what i expected. I dont like synthetic chem or being in the lab What i want to do is work with proteins on a theoretical medical level, so i've taken every bio class available to me. This article was done during the writing of my bachelors paper (about MT's and alzheimer's) and i guess you can call it bioinorganic.

I'm going to travel south east asia for the next 4-6 months, and during that time i'll probably decide what direction to take on my Studies. Dont think it really matters before my Dr. Phil tho.


Oh and if you plan to travel to Thailand, you can pm me and I might be able to give a tip or two for traveling in Thailand. Hope you have fun with your travel too.


Thanks, i might just take you up on that
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
November 11 2010 14:55 GMT
#25
Congrats! I just started a PhD program, so I'm jealous you just started a Masters and are already published!

Go home and google yourself....that's kind of cool! Unfortunately I share a name with a famous jazz guitarist so that trick would never work...
bobhund
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden364 Posts
November 11 2010 15:08 GMT
#26
Congrats, tried reading it but it was all greek to me I am a more of a social science guy.
Editor in chief at Rakaka.se
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
November 11 2010 15:31 GMT
#27
published in that field pre-master?
congrats man!
thats QUITE an achievement, even if you seem to play it down.
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lutarez
Profile Joined November 2010
United States65 Posts
November 11 2010 15:35 GMT
#28
Congrats!

(I thought you published in Science initially by the tag, lol)
ViciousBox
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2 Posts
November 11 2010 16:05 GMT
#29
Congrats on your first paper!

Our group works on MT (Metal binding by ESI-MS, emission and NMR) - I have forwarded the paper to them to read
Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
November 11 2010 16:08 GMT
#30
On November 12 2010 01:05 ViciousBox wrote:
Congrats on your first paper!

Our group works on MT (Metal binding by ESI-MS, emission and NMR) - I have forwarded the paper to them to read


haha sweet, tell them to cite it! :D
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
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