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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
Thing is, idc about this right now honestly. They don't have any languages to learn besides Spanish, when I want to live in Germany and don't care to know Spanish at all. We don't have any sports teams and that makes me rage like mad. I pretty much just want to go to a regular highschool so, I BEG of you give me some things to say to convince my parents. I'm 15 years old so................  | ||
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ragingfungus
United States271 Posts
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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:34 ragingfungus wrote: Associates degree in what? Something with arts in the title | ||
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ragingfungus
United States271 Posts
On a side note of course you dont care about it now. Thats the same for pretty much any kid, but it can make it so much easier later on. For example I wish I had been able to get a 2 year degree right out of hs that would be awesome right now considering the college I want to go to is going to cost something like 20-50k for a 2 year. This is of course assuming you can get a degree in something you would like to do and not just some bs. | ||
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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:39 ragingfungus wrote: You definitely need to get more information before deciding something like this. Getting a basically free associates degree right out of highschool is huge. Also learning spanish is a huge asset in the USA for a job if you seriously learn it and not just take a class and dont really learn anything. I'm not going to live in the U.S. when I'm older though. | ||
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ragingfungus
United States271 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:44 theinvisiblePLER wrote: I'm not going to live in the U.S. when I'm older though. Do you just not want to live here or do you have actual plans to move right now? | ||
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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:47 ragingfungus wrote: Do you just not want to live here or do you have actual plans to move right now? I have plans to move when I'm 18 years old and finished high school. | ||
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ragingfungus
United States271 Posts
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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:49 ragingfungus wrote: I think the deciding factor would be if you can get a degree in something you would like to do. Also if another school teaches german and you are sure you are moving there then that would obviously be a good argument. I don't want anything to do with the arts lol, | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
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ragingfungus
United States271 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:53 theinvisiblePLER wrote: I don't want anything to do with the arts lol, I was in the same boat for far too long in not knowing what I wanted to do in life. I would suggest talking with a school counselor about not knowing what you want to do and what interests you and see if that helps. | ||
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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
On October 29 2010 11:04 EsX_Raptor wrote: Do not do anything before you first find out what you truly want to do with your life. I'm a graduate and know a shitload of stories (better than this) that have ended worse than shit. Can you please give me an example? | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:48 theinvisiblePLER wrote: I have plans to move when I'm 18 years old and finished high school. unless you already have a job waiting for you, you definitely don't have plans to live in germany when you're 18. you might have an intention, but making a decision like this based on an intent as loose as this one might cause you some trouble down the line. | ||
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crazeman
664 Posts
Duno it seems like you're pretty deadset to go to germany for no reason at all... a free associative degree is pretty huge no matter what field it is in. Plus it'll probably help you get your bachelor degree faster if your future college accepts your credits. No offense, you're 15 and probably don't know shit (I certainly didn't when I was 15... shit I'm 23 and I still don't know shit) so I'm interested in why you know you're going to move to germany at 18. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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Sad[Panda]
United States458 Posts
Edit: redundancy | ||
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TossFloss
Canada606 Posts
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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
On October 29 2010 12:27 TossFloss wrote: Can you please provide some context on your parents. What is their background, jobs, education, beliefs, etc. Dad : Truck driver Mom: stays at home and takes care of little brother Education: Dad didn't go to school for more then 6th-7th grade Beliefs: Want me to get a good paying job I personally want to be a pharmacy technician, and just go through a course or two, get a certificate, and work. The reason I want to move to Germany is because it is close to my home country Bosnia, and I hope to finish my life in Bosnia. I want to be able to go there frequently, but if I live in the U.S. it costs 5,000+$ just to get over there. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
While I agree that Germany is a very industrial country (my dad stayed there briefly), what you are trying to do is really far-fetched. Just calm down, stay in school, and wait for a better time to move. | ||
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Pioneer
994 Posts
If that's you're only reason you should probably rethink it. Can you even speak the language? You can't speak German yet either so you're decision kind of confuses me. Even with 3 years experience you'd still struggle with the language having spent no time in Germany once you get there. That's not even the biggest problem. No job lined up (of course not you're 15) so how will you live there? You're parents are going to support you? You're dad is a commercial truck driver, he probably brings in decent money but not enough to support your mother, your little brother, and himself plus you in a foreign country. Please for your own well being drop this train of thought. It's all fine and good to dream about moving to those countries but it's honestly stupid to attempt it before you have your degree/education complete and a decent bit of money to support you while you look for a job. You probably won't be on the same hiring level as the natives there anyway. One you may be Bosnian descent but you aren't a national. You'll need papers before you can even start looking for a job. Also take into account you will probably be passed over by employers for in favor of someone with your same qualifications but is actually a native of the country and is familiar with how the society works over there. There's tons of factors that you just aren't thinking about. The only thing that you should worry about is if your Highschool and this Associates degree is accredited so you can get into a decent college and finding a part time job for school, maybe throwing in some clubs and volunteer work to pad your college app and resume for when you get older. If your school is accredited you are way better off than most people your age education wise. You will have an easier time getting a job out of highschool (especially if you have a little work experience) and you will have a jump start on getting a degree (don't get some pharmacy certificate or w/e get an actual degree in pharmacy). | ||
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Pioneer
994 Posts
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aev
166 Posts
Use the opportunities that you've been given, and don't take them so lightly. Your own father never got farther than middle school, and you have a chance to get an associate degree without even going to college. Think about your next few years carefully. | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
Also don't be so quick to dismiss learning spanish. The skills you pick up when you learn a language make learning other languages (ie. german) much easier. It kinda rewires your brain. You must have real balls if you think you're going to move to germany as soon as you turn 18. That is a massive decision and no doubt you will rethink it as the time gets closer. | ||
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Oceanic
United States122 Posts
Well sorry to burst your bubble but pharmacy techs do not get paid very well at all. Most of the time pharmacy techs will be students that are currently in pharmacy school but do you know what they tell us the requirements to be a pharmacy tech are? The answer is: a pulse. Any high school kid without a degree can be hired as a pharmacy tech although like I stated, pharmacies will usually hire pharmacy students. Also the pay is not as high as you're probably expecting. Expect to be paid around $10/hr. If you're REALLY lucky, you may get paid as much as $15/hr but I wouldn't count on it. My younger sister who works in a clothing store makes more money/hr than most pharmacy techs. | ||
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
I haven't ended in shit yet but consider that: My grandpa is a judge. My dad has a PhD in biochemistry and is a Dean at a university in Peru. My mom worked for the regional government. Notable Achievements in Peru: Top 3 in class in Private Secondary school (which was Ranked #1 in my region) 13th Place National Chemistry Olympics 1st Place Regional Math Olympics (I fucked up in the nationals so didn't even stay for the ranking ceremony) Was accepted to top private university in Peru My mom decided that I would have better opportunities in the US than in Peru; so I moved here and had to start over. I graduated out of public high school in 1 semester with a 3.8 GPA having a B in a class for which I TA'd -_- (IDK if it's because California is ranked 49th in Education or because public high schools here suck) but it was incredibly easy and my English wasn't nearly as good 4 years ago. For me and my mom and my sister to be self sufficient and not having to rely in family I had to get a job right out of high school. Spend 3 years in community college trying to juggle a full time job and 13-15 units every semester. As a result I ended up with a 3.1 GPA; I was denied admission to UC Berkeley. I'm now at UCSC trying to make up for it. My advise: Learning Spanish is not going to stop you from learning German. (I speak 4 languages and I'm teaching myself Korean and Portuguese at the moment, so don't say it can't be done.) If you have the opportunity to be offered such a program take full advantage of it (why the hell not?) From my experience: You don't want to attend a public high school (I may or may not be biased) You're 15, you don't know what you want to study, you are not sure what you want to do with your life, and you want to move to a different country in 3 years? How is it feasible? Do you even know anybody in Germany? Why wouldn't you want the associates even if it's in arts? Every skill is useful in life in one way or another (worst case scenario it's good for nothing you want to study; you can still get girls with that, who knows) TL;DR Figure out what you want, then figure out how you want to achieve it. If you have the skill to do it, then you'll be just fine however you approach it. And remember you can still earn a respectable degree here and work a few years for experience then with that get a job in either Germany or Bosnia; there's no reason to rush you moving there (or is there?). | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
INFORM YOURSELF BEFORE GOING!!! Should be self-evident, but still. On October 29 2010 14:54 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote: Learning Spanish is not going to stop you from learning German. (I speak 4 languages and I'm teaching myself Korean and Portuguese at the moment, so don't say it can't be done.) English is actually more similar to German than Spanish. Learning Spanish does not bring you closer to German in that way. Don't forget not everyone is as motivated and talented as you. And learning a language does require an significant amount of dedication. Dedication that otherwise could be spent on better grades or learning German outright. If anything, he should learn Turkish as it could be useful picking up side-jobs in Germany. | ||
zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
I have to agree though your ideas seem a bit strange. You randomly want to go to Germany because it's closer to Bosnia than the US? You really shouldn't go to any country just for its proximity to another, that doesn't make sense to me. If you want to come to Germany do so because you actually want to be there. | ||
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