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Being Competitive Part 3: Confidence - Page 2

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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 17 2010 22:46 GMT
#21
What is confidence?
Being able to support your prediction of the out come of some event with evidence on why your prediction is accurate?

That means faking confidence is predicting an out come of some event with insufficient evidence?

For me confidence is not real, it is a concept, an idea like human rights, we made it up.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
November 18 2010 05:51 GMT
#22
On November 18 2010 07:46 rei wrote:
What is confidence?
Being able to support your prediction of the out come of some event with evidence on why your prediction is accurate?

That means faking confidence is predicting an out come of some event with insufficient evidence?

For me confidence is not real, it is a concept, an idea like human rights, we made it up.


rei, I think you're getting your contexts a bit mixed up, please understand that my posts aren't philosophical or theoretical points, they are for the application for business and developing a competitive mentality.

I have no doubt as to what is confidence and how it is applied, so the short of it is; it is not 'confidence or belief' in an idea, like predicting something, that is too superficial of an understanding of what I am stating, and quite meaningless, rather, it is the confidence in the doing, that as you do, as you are in action, you have confidence to not choke or panic and to put your best step forward.

I'm not much for meaningless theoretical discussion, if you want to talk about ideas of confidence and human rights and how they are simply man made concepts, this ain't the post for them, this is about application.

Cheers.
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
November 18 2010 06:06 GMT
#23
On November 18 2010 07:46 rei wrote:
What is confidence?
Being able to support your prediction of the out come of some event with evidence on why your prediction is accurate?

That means faking confidence is predicting an out come of some event with insufficient evidence?

For me confidence is not real, it is a concept, an idea like human rights, we made it up.


Yep fully agree. Personally I believe 80% of people or so who say they have "confidence" are trying to cover up insecurities. We all have insecurities. If you really look at people in general, we are very weak alone.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 08:19:04
November 18 2010 08:15 GMT
#24
"I'm not much for meaningless theoretical discussion"
It is meaningless for you, but not for me, When i see gravity in action, want to know how it works and why it works the way it does. Newton figured out how gravity works, Einstein tried to figure out why it works the way it does till his dying breath.

I'm trying to learn, nothing more nothing less, for me to learn I need to ask questions. you show us your experience as examples in how confidence worked for you, and suggest how others can build their confidence with your suggestions. I'm merely trying to figure out why it worked.

And before I can ask why, i first need to have a more clear definition of what is confidence, I might have missed it, but I can't seem to find a clear definition on what confidence is on your OP, you gave many examples of what is confidence and what is not confidence, how to get it, and how to work toward it.

I try to give a definition of what is confident and what is not confident base on my understand in my first reply, the question mark at the end of those 2 sentence is aim to ask if you agree. Since you want to talk about this as an application of confidence, then let me re-phase how i would define confidence.

Positive example: I am confident that I will be able to solve the math problem 1+1, the evidence for this prediction is the fact that 1) I have experience with the mathematical operation "addition" tens of thousands of times, and 2) I have the calculator technology on my finger tips to double check and ensure I will arrive in the correct solution. These evidence is why i'm confident.

Negative example: I am confident that I will be able to beat rekrul on starcraft2 1vs1, the evidence for this prediction is that fact that I have reach over 2000 on NA ladder, and have over 1000 sc2 game in my b.net account.

Does this mean being confident comes down to how well researched a subject in question is? The more we know about a given event, the better we will be able to predict the outcome of some event?
On the Negative example I have no information on how good rekrul is, my prediction on beating rekrul is not supported by facts. On the positive example I have benefits of my experience in preforming the same task and a back up plan with a calculator to ensure the outcome of the event.

Another way to look at these 2 example, in the positive example the predictor of the event is in full control of the procedure of the event. Where the negative example, the predictor does not control how well rekrul can play sc2, hence insufficient evidence to support his prediction. And the prediction would change depend on what rekrul's skill is in sc2.

Confidence is result of these factual evidences, the more evidence we have, the higher the confidences, that's why i said confidence is not real, we label it with this concept, we don't measure confidences, we measure factual evidences to predict an outcome.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 08:18 GMT
#25
k lets bet 100$ on a game right now
why so 진지해?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 18 2010 08:21 GMT
#26
username and ID# ?
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 08:27 GMT
#27
secret
why so 진지해?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 18 2010 08:28 GMT
#28
haha I knew it wouldn't be this ez to steal money from rekrul.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 08:30 GMT
#29
i don't play sc2 at all (played 50 games total here and there), should have called the bet while u had the chance

offer off the table now

shoulda been more confident, because true confidence isn't about absolute certainty
why so 진지해?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 18 2010 08:32 GMT
#30
I thought asking for your username and ID# = accepting your bet, but I guess we have different interpretation on what I should type when accepting a bet.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 08:33 GMT
#31
On November 18 2010 17:32 rei wrote:
I thought asking for your username and ID# = accepting your bet, but I guess we have different interpretation on what I should type when accepting a bet.


obviously its u trying to look at my stats....

LOL
why so 진지해?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 18 2010 08:42 GMT
#32
na, that's not even logical to assume i will try to look you up, do you know why? because you have a reputation to protect and I don't. If you lose you must pay up, if you win, you have no guarantee that I will pay up.

Obviously its you that's backing out, but sometimes folding is winning in the poker world right? but since this is not poker you don't even lose your money when someone called your buff.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 08:44 GMT
#33
On November 18 2010 17:42 rei wrote:
na, that's not even logical to assume i will try to look you up, do you know why? because you have a reputation to protect and I don't. If you lose you must pay up, if you win, you have no guarantee that I will pay up.

Obviously its you that's backing out, but sometimes folding is winning in the poker world right? but since this is not poker you don't even lose your money when someone called your buff.


obviously i would have made u send me the $ b4 the game then i send back double if i lose lol. next time u wanna call say call
why so 진지해?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 09:04:45
November 18 2010 08:54 GMT
#34
well, since you are backing out from the $bet, how about I propose a grudge match bo7, winner has to buy the loser drinks next time we meet up in real life? I will try hard to buy you drinks kk?
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 08:57 GMT
#35
On November 18 2010 17:54 rei wrote:
well, since you are backing out from the $bet, how about I propose a grunge match bo7, winner has to buy the loser drinks next time we meet up in real life? I will try hard to buy you drinks kk?


i gave you a window of opportunity to take a free 100$ off me if only you had the confidence. you instead asked for my username/id so that you could look me up to see if it was a bet you could likely win. don't try and act like i'm backing out you little sneak!
why so 진지해?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 09:04:29
November 18 2010 09:03 GMT
#36
you are backing out on the grudge match too? common now, you are the almighty rekrul, and i'm just another nobody, i guess not having
On November 18 2010 17:30 Rekrul wrote:
absolute certainty
you don't have the confidence in buying me drinks?
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 09:05 GMT
#37
there are many things i do that i am very confident in

one of the top ones is being compelled to buy people drinks for no reason

no need for a grudge match
why so 진지해?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 18 2010 09:07 GMT
#38
I will be the one buying when we meet
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 09:08 GMT
#39
good luck with that
why so 진지해?
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
November 18 2010 09:59 GMT
#40
just to barge in a little bit, this must be the most gentleman-like trashtalk I've ever seen. This should be hyped up
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
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