Dunno It feels the same or maybe easier to me. My max rank is B and I hit C- yesterday with random on all my games.

If you wanna play better SC then you need to be active. My apm dropped like 140-150 from 180-200 when i was really active. Now i just play for fun every now and then. Dunno why ppl still care about iccup rank... just play the game and have fun . If you dont have fun then stop playing .

Oh yea stop playing koreans is a good advice

. I lag with koreans so i almost never play with them.

Shield

Bulgaria4824 Posts

October 21 2010 13:53 GMT

#22

That's a clear example why SC2 Ladder is better than iCCup although neither is perfect.
Plus, no dodge.

Altair

243 Posts

October 21 2010 13:58 GMT

#23

Don't worry be happy! Don't give a shit about your rank.

tofucake

Hyrule19217 Posts

October 21 2010 14:03 GMT

#24

$500 I'll give you Olympic icon

+ Show Spoiler +

I'm kidding. It's $1000

Funnytoss

Taiwan1471 Posts

October 21 2010 14:03 GMT

#25

Honestly, it doesn't matter what rank is more or less difficult. The point is whether or not you're finding worthwhile opponents to play against - for me, it used to be that I generally couldn't find anyone in the D/D+ level that could challenge me, but wouldn't stomp me either. Since I was about C-, I'd have to ladder up all the way there (not far, I know) before I could really "start playing".

so think of it this way: you're finding more challenging opponents even earlier, which is even better, no need to grind up in ranks before you find worthwhile games.

emperorchampion

Canada9496 Posts

October 21 2010 14:24 GMT

#26

On October 21 2010 23:03 tofucake wrote:
$500 I'll give you Olympic icon

+ Show Spoiler +

I'm kidding. It's $1000

bo5 for $1000 and an Olympic Icon?

I'll give you 10-1 odds

tofucake

Hyrule19217 Posts

October 21 2010 14:38 GMT

#27

On October 21 2010 23:24 emperorchampion wrote:

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bo5 for $1000 and an Olympic Icon?

I'll give you 10-1 odds

Why? I can use the icon command.

Nytefish

United Kingdom4282 Posts

October 21 2010 15:13 GMT

#28

As others have said already, it's true that it will be a lot harder if you play anyone you can, since you'll get a larger proportion of koreans. But if you only pick foreigners (or "people who don't lag", however you want to spin it) you won't notice much difference except maybe it takes longer to find a game.

Jonoman92

United States9109 Posts

October 21 2010 15:34 GMT

#29

recently, ive been playing a lot better.... i somehow jumped from my usual 180 apm to as high as 220+ apm

That sentence kind of makes me think you're thinking APM is too important. Just play well, don't even check your apm.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

October 21 2010 17:47 GMT

#30

On October 21 2010 22:58 Altair wrote:
Don't worry be happy! Don't give a shit about your rank.

yea man, with so little players on iccup now, pay more attention to your win ratio rather than the letter rank.

Zapdos_Smithh

Canada2620 Posts

October 21 2010 18:38 GMT

#31

Yeah that would be very stressful (to the OP). The cool thing is though that you are getting really good

I'd just have fun with it.

meathook

1289 Posts

October 21 2010 19:57 GMT

#32

On October 21 2010 23:24 emperorchampion wrote:

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bo5 for $1000 and an Olympic Icon?

I'll give you 10-1 odds

Lol... 10-1 ... hahahahah ... you sure are giving him a lot of credit. You know he's an admin, yeah?

OMin

United States545 Posts

October 21 2010 20:08 GMT

#33

On October 22 2010 00:34 Jonoman92 wrote:

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That sentence kind of makes me think you're thinking APM is too important. Just play well, don't even check your apm.

you only quoted half the original sentence...

On October 21 2010 17:51 OMin wrote:
i somehow jumped from my usual 180 apm to as high as 220+ apm without consciously trying to up my apm due to better harass and steadier macro than when i last got to play bw a lot...

cuz i knew someone would say something like this, i made sure to add a justification instead of just throwing a number out there... i agree that apm isnt always an indicator of skill or progress, but in these particular games i physically felt i was more on top of making sure i have steady rounds pumping, multi-front harassing, not forgetting supplies, positioning my defense while harassing, making sure he doesn't get to expand without harassment, keeping up scv production and sending scvs to work consistently. regardless of what my apm is, i know im playing cleaner games than i was before, but im still getting my ass beat by people who are several ranks ahead of me.... like i ran into 3 D+ koreans on the same night who had A- previous ranks in their iccup profiles... like wtf

Cambium

United States16368 Posts

October 21 2010 20:48 GMT

#34

The point of playing is to get better; if you are getting better (which you claim you are) then who cares? If you just want to have fun, then make new accts and bash D.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

October 21 2010 20:50 GMT

#35

played only 1 Korean and i lost to him cause dragoon AI is terrible.
ive been D+ at max and im aiming for D+ again with a rec of 8-5. so far so good

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

October 21 2010 20:51 GMT

#36

On October 21 2010 23:24 emperorchampion wrote:

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bo5 for $1000 and an Olympic Icon?

I'll give you 10-1 odds

bo5 iccup.noone hell give you 1-10 odds
lol

MichaelJLowell

United States610 Posts

October 21 2010 22:48 GMT

#37

The idea that ICCUP could be even more torturous than before confuses and terrifies me.

funnybananaman

United States830 Posts

October 21 2010 23:00 GMT

#38

I cant speak much for the D+ ranks because i havent really tried them yet but saying the D ranks got harder is total BS. i got D+ with terran and protoss and am currently working on it with zerg, its the exact same as ever.

Nytefish

United Kingdom4282 Posts

October 21 2010 23:08 GMT

#39

On October 22 2010 08:00 funnybananaman wrote:
I cant speak much for the D+ ranks because i havent really tried them yet but saying the D ranks got harder is total BS. i got D+ with terran and protoss and am currently working on it with zerg, its the exact same as ever.

Well you're actually just proving what people have been saying:
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/matchlist/682113/1x1.html

Not playing koreans = same as ever.