EPTOn October 05 2010 01:27 youlijp wrote:
fake..
fake..
Why in the hell would this story be fake? Because it occured in a country which happens to make a lot of cartoons and video games?
Run in with the Yakuza - Page 2
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
Why in the hell would this story be fake? Because it occured in a country which happens to make a lot of cartoons and video games? | ||
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gods_basement
United States305 Posts
as i understand it, they belong to a lower caste of japanese society dating from the edo period, and are considered to be below the average laborer in social status. the Tatoos are rather expensive and painful, and take years to complete. I believe that the government treats them much like another government would treat a labor union. I dont think they're really in the business of assassinations and the like; that seems to be a hollywood fabrication. what really interests me is what i read to be the punishment for mistakes. they would take a knuckle off your lowest finger on your non-dominant hand. the reason was that your sword grip relies on leverage, and so the less pinky you have on your left hand, the less strong your sword grip. it was to encourage reliance on the yakuza instead of brash individual action. this punishment was also exacted on people for the actions of their subordinates. | ||
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lungo
Denmark276 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
As you said, you are very lucky! | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32027 Posts
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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Ocular
Canada141 Posts
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
On October 05 2010 00:11 tomatriedes wrote: I thought the yakuza were more 'high-class' gangsters? This sounds more like street thugs. I have to say I'm surprised that it happened in Japan as I thought it was a pretty safe country. Yakuza is a system. There are street thugs who may work for the Yakuza. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Scary stuff nonetheless, especially if you are still on full alert everywhere you go due to the cultural shock. | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
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29 fps
United States5719 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:08 dogabutila wrote: Too bad you can't have a gun there. if you could have a gun, they would've had three.... or more. and they would've pulled it on him first. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On October 05 2010 03:16 Cambium wrote: AFAIK, yakuza members rarely interact with the general populace, so what you ran into were probably thugs potentially associated with yakuzas, but not actual members. Or they were just trying to have a little fun with a foreigner. Scary stuff nonetheless, especially if you are still on full alert everywhere you go due to the cultural shock. I agree with this, also you need to look out for the area you are in, for them to shake you down for some cash, they must be low level and you must be in the ghetto area, but yeah, them having fun with you is probably the case, otherwise if they really wanted to take your money, they would have, but even highschool students could give you a hard time if they catch you alone and you're living in the ghetto. | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
you should leave Japan and come to Korea and teach English; I hope you recover and if you are in a rural area, it makes sense why some thugs wanted to rough you up, I dont' think that would ever happen in Tokyo. But i hope you fully recover from the car accident and stuff. | ||
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Never.Die
Japan189 Posts
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:52 29 fps wrote: if you could have a gun, they would've had three.... or more. and they would've pulled it on him first. Every time somebody tries to rob you they have a gun right? And are waving it around? Fun fact: The higher the number of robbers, the less likely any of them has a weapon. | ||
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29 fps
United States5719 Posts
On October 05 2010 14:08 dogabutila wrote: Every time somebody tries to rob you they have a gun right? And are waving it around? Fun fact: The higher the number of robbers, the less likely any of them has a weapon. it's the yakuza, not just random folks trying to rob him. the japanese mob is quite rich, so i bet these yakuza members would've had guns if guns were legal. no? | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
So even though they are doing most of the work, they still are 1) not rich. and 2) not armed. If they were rich, why would they be shaking you down for money? The upper levels arn't concerned with the day-to-day activities of their street gang so long as the cash keeps flowing right and the cops don't come knocking. This works in your favor later on. You need to understand the psychology behind robbery. The priorities for them are threefold. 1) They want your stuff. 2) They do not want to get caught. 3) They do not want to get hurt. I dont feel like writing a dissertation, but it boils down to the fact that the threat they have is what makes you give up your 'stuff'. It is harder for 1 person to project enough of a threat to make you want to give up your stuff, as well as keeping you from running away without using a weapon. This changes as more people accost you. By the time you hit three, there is no need for weapons. They have enough implied violence to get you to give up what you want, to keep you from running, and to keep a lookout. (it also helps if you avoid isolated areas obviously...). In these situations, a weapon actually works against them. At a glance, a weapon makes it obvious something bad is going on. It also makes it impossible to say "oh we were just messing around". That defense is also actually the most popular, as well as most successful to a police officer. It's impossible to determine if they were really actually kidding or not, unless they actually start to batter you. This ties in to the upper levels not wanting police attention. Armed robberies are obviously more serious then strong arm robberies. The public tends to put more attention on armed robberies (they make for better stories etc.), and as such the police put more attention on armed robberies. Since they are wanting your money, but also do not want potential police attention, they will do everything to mitigate the possibility of police coming to call on the uppers. This is why multiple subject robberies tend not to involve weapons. The best (safest), thing to do is to just swallow your pride, give them your money, and be on your way. If they keep you detained after you give up your money, be ready to fight for your life. The longer you prolong the contact, the more likely they get antsy (they don't want to get caught remember?) and start actual physical violence designed to get you to part with your money. If for some reason you have no money or they do not believe you or you didn't give them enough, then the best thing to do is to be alert, be confident, and be armed (and trained). and shit, it turned into an essay anyways. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27118 Posts
I'll be in Hiroshima two weekends from now, but I'll be biking the Shimanami Kaido between Onomichi and Imabari in Ehime. That isn't really in your neck of the woods unless you go out of your way by a lot, but if you have nothing else to do and fancy a train trip, I could meet you in Imabari Sunday night and buy you all the beer you can drink. (I'm assuming you have to work Monday though  ) | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27118 Posts
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