So, a little background on this. I'm a Japanese-Korean-Chinese-Okinawan-Dutch-Irish-Welsch-Native American from Hawaii. I'm 22 years old and I am currently living in Korea teaching English at a middle school. My job is great, and I'm learning Korean, which is starting to be my third language. A few days ago someone said something along the lines of "you're not Japanese and you can't speak it" to me in the general forum, and I posted a slightly retaliatory post which basically said "my last name is Kamisato, I'm half Japanese, I look full Japanese, I can speak Japanese, and I lived in Japan for 5 years and went to elementary school there. I'm Japanese." It was a little pointed so I sent a PM to apologize for the tone:
Original Message From ZERG_RUSSIAN: Look I dunno why you're trolling me--I made a kinda hasty post in the forums raging about it and I wanna say ahead of time I'm sorry. Honestly though my last name is Kamisato and I look 100% Japanese and I speak it well enough to understand anything anyone will ever say outside of a business or college classroom conversation so saying I can't speak just kinda irked me because that's my second language, Korean being my third because I'm living here now.
This got a response from him (I'm omitting his name to avoid drama):
Original Message From _________: How old are you?
I feel like I'm talking to somebody so sensitive there's no point talking about anything realistic with 'em.
"Fuck this guy," I think to myself:
Original Message From ZERG_RUSSIAN: I'm only 22, but you can take your elitist attitude and shove it up your ass. It's a forum and I made an apologetic attempt towards mitigating some of the bite from my post and instead of being an adult about it you make some comment about how you might be an older twenty-something than me. Big fucking whoop, if you're gonna be a dick about everything in life I'll just ignore you and anything you ever say instead of trying to come to some sort of understanding.
His reply:
Original Message From ___________: Shaadap. You'd only say something like "shove it up your ass" cus this is the internet. I'd dare you to try in it to me in real life. I wouldn't have to actually.
You got some real issues that I don't even wanna know. From what I can tell you're neither American nor Japanese. You gotta make up ya mind son. And lol learn more about Battle Royale's commentary on Japanese society.
Battle Royale was a Japanese film based on Lord of the Flies which people who have never gone to Japanese school think has some sort of meaning when it's really just a movie about kids killing each other with weapons:
Original Message From ZERG_RUSSIAN: So what you're saying is that I'm older than you and you've never lived in Japan before, that you're not Japanese and can't speak it, and you're trying to tell me I'm the one who needs to learn about Japan?
I'm spot on:
Original Message From ____________: If that's what do wanna believe, son.
By that weak comeback I can tell I'm not off by much.
Who had the weak comeback?
Original Message From ZERG_RUSSIAN: Actually that's exactly what Hawaii is, not Japanese and not American. Who says I have to make up my mind? What do you know about Hawaii or Japan that you've learned from living there? How old are you? How much Japanese do you speak?
Lol bitching out now that you realize you're stupidly wrong huh.
This is getting dumb and I'm starting to troll him for the lulz:
Original Message From __________: Maybe. Well if you lived in some ethnic enclave all your life, is home-schooled, then went to Japan to try to be Japanese when you're not.
I don't know all the particulars of Japan. But I do know how they react to overseas Japanese, yeah. You may look, mostly sound like, maybe you even adapted to behave like them, but it's not hard to pierce through that facade. You don't have the upbringing, didn't read the literature every Japanese people has read, the decidedly "small" things that stand out glaringly.
I mean it's not like I gave a fuck about you. You're just a random SN on TL to me. On top of that you're not that eloquent with English either. It's obvious your ass is drifting.
You think you're unique muthafucka? I call you out for your cowardice. Why da fuck are you, to be from Hawaii, and doesn't stake your claim to America and fight for recognition like the rest of us, huh? Fucking coward. You think you're home? Ya chicken shit. If you're in front me right now I'd beat your ass silly.
Ironic that he tells me that I'm not "eloquent with English" lol. Anyway I sent him a message back and I'm awaiting his reply now.
I had a argument with a Baneling/Progamer once which i clearly won. Kept throwing me insults hoping i would fall for the ban bait but i kept cool and carefully one the argument. I felt so proud and at the same time shitty . I decided to be a man and sent a pm saying im sorry(even tho i was right) and he doesn't even respond...
sorry i have to call bullshit on your native american heritage, lol.
i have to say this as a native american, everyone in this day an age says they're at least 5% native american without any plausible proof.
hey joe, what's your ethnicity?
oh, man. i'm 5% cherokee, and bla bla.
everytime i see a white person (which is all the time) say they're cherokee fucking blows my mind.
it seems to me that every white person is part cherokee (based on real experiences, when told so).
edit: you also seem like a pretentious prick who's trying to convey themself as a sophisticated person (as the majority of tl.net does) by saying their ethnicity is broad. this guy picked up on it, and trolled you. you got served.
EDIT: Also, a question. Isn't Okinawan just... Japanese? If there's a difference, please educate meh.
Okinawans are hairier and turn brown in the sun!
Next post from him:
Go ahead.
Fuck, you still don't know jackshit about Battle Royale. Yeah, Lord of the Flies, thaaaat's why it's cited for social commentary on Japanese education system pitting kids against each other like fucking animals that kill each other.
Opps, I know more than you.
My response:
Did you actually go to school in Japan, like me, or are you just assuming things that you have no idea about because you heard it on the internet? Sure, school in Japan is competitive but it's not anything CLOSE to what you're insinuating. School in Japan was fun and interesting, contrary to your bleak notion that it's a savage fight for the top spot that leaves the students soulless and depraved. But, then again, you know more about it than me because you've seen Battle Royale, which was OBVIOUSLY more insight into Japanese culture than living there for 5 years + having seen it.
On September 29 2010 21:16 faction123 wrote: wow you had an argument with someone in pms and had to make a thread about it to make yourself feel validated
ya man totally hilarious u should do stand up comedy ur so amazing telling that guy ur japanese when he thought u werent japanese and posting all ur PMs so everyone can marvel at how hilarious and witty ur comebacks were. this whole thing is like alien vs predator, no matter who wins, we lose
"my last name is Kamisato, I'm half Japanese, I look full Japanese, I can speak Japanese, and I lived in Japan for 5 years and went to elementary school there. I'm Japanese."
I'm a Japanese-Korean-Chinese-Okinawan-Dutch-Irish-Welsch-Native American from Hawaii.
no, you are 12.5% Japanese. imo he is the one trolling you and he got you real bad.
Lord of the Flies which people who have never gone to Japanese school think has some sort of meaning when it's really just a movie about kids killing each other with weapons:
you serious?
I think you're the loser here though. It's obvious he wasn't being serious and was merely arguing with you out of amusement (and how seriously you take things). Learn to realize when people are being serious and grow up.
"my last name is Kamisato, I'm half Japanese, I look full Japanese, I can speak Japanese, and I lived in Japan for 5 years and went to elementary school there. I'm Japanese."
I'm a Japanese-Korean-Chinese-Okinawan-Dutch-Irish-Welsch-Native American from Hawaii.
no, you are 12.5% Japanese. imo he is the one trolling you and he got you real bad.
What's that supposed to mean? I'm 100% Chinese but I've lived in America all my life.. If you put me in China the only thing that I'd have similar with the rest of the natives is my skin color but I'm still Chinese.
Amazing how much hes being trolled for posting this. People being dicks on the net has been around for a long time, I've gotta hand it to him for actually trying to bring some accountability to the table.
Lord of the Flies which people who have never gone to Japanese school think has some sort of meaning when it's really just a movie about kids killing each other with weapons:
you serious?
I think you're the loser here though. It's obvious he wasn't being serious and was merely arguing with you out of amusement (and how seriously you take things). Learn to realize when people are being serious and grow up.
"my last name is Kamisato, I'm half Japanese, I look full Japanese, I can speak Japanese, and I lived in Japan for 5 years and went to elementary school there. I'm Japanese."
Lord of the Flies which people who have never gone to Japanese school think has some sort of meaning when it's really just a movie about kids killing each other with weapons:
you serious?
I think you're the loser here though. It's obvious he wasn't being serious and was merely arguing with you out of amusement (and how seriously you take things). Learn to realize when people are being serious and grow up.
Yes, I'm serious. School in Japan isn't anything like what most people think Battle Royale means. I have lots of friends and an aunt teaching English there right now. It's competitive but by no means is it a violent struggle that leaves them soullessly selfish with no regard for anything but their own future. When's the last time you met a kid from Japan? Most of my friends from Japan when I was in university or from when I lived there are very normal people who had a very normal school life.
But, what do I know, I just went to school and lived there. You're probably right about their school system being nothing like what I said it was.
The amount of people who think I'm a loser popping up in this thread to troll me is funny, like I had no idea that people would try or think this sort of thing and totally wasn't expecting it.
On September 29 2010 15:45 thedeadhaji wrote: まあ、正直会社にでも入らなければだれも日本生まれじゃないって分からんよね。 日本生まれ、日本育ちの連中とは考え方や物事の捉え方がある程度異なるっていうのは事実だが。
I know what you're saying is true, but I also feel like Hawaii's culture is pretty similar to that of someone born in Japan. At the very least, I understand it well enough to recognize where I don't fit in and where our thought processes differ. Still, I don't think it's fair to make the claim that I'm "not Japanese" when my family name is 神里 from my father's side and his mother's last name was 石井. I'm a fourth generation Japanese, and I understand the cultural gaps, but I also feel like having grown up there for 5 years during my youth was pretty influential on my personality.
On September 30 2010 13:53 alffla wrote: w/e dont waste your time with idiots
This.
Whether he's trolling or being serious (hopefully he's trolling, otherwise humanity is doomed), you're still wasting your time. lol.
You're either wasting your time giving some idiot something to laugh about or you're wasting your time arguing something that he's not going to listen to anyways.
Yes, I'm serious. School in Japan isn't anything like what most people think Battle Royale means. I have lots of friends and an aunt teaching English there right now. It's competitive but by no means is it a violent struggle that leaves them soullessly selfish with no regard for anything but their own future. When's the last time you met a kid from Japan? Most of my friends from Japan when I was in university or from when I lived there are very normal people who had a very normal school life.
No I mean the Lord of the Flies comparison. If you think Lord of the flies has no meaning and it's just a bunch of people killing each other then I don't know what to say. as for the movie, movies like that often exagerrate a lot to prove a point or illustrate something, doesn't mean they have to be an accurate depiction of an actual japanese school. Lord of the Flies isn't exactly what would happen if you had a society run by kids, it's exagerrate to prove a point about human nature.
But, what do I know, I just went to school and lived there. You're probably right about their school system being nothing like what I said it was.
Don't see how this has to do with anything. You can pick out meanings and purposes in movies without experiences it's setting.
The amount of people who think I'm a loser popping up in this thread to troll me is funny, like I had no idea that people would try or think this sort of thing and totally wasn't expecting it
No I'm not trolling you. I'm being serious when I say that he was obviously getting a rise out of making you angry and wasn't actually being serious in his arguments. Thus, the real loser of your "debate" is you for not realizing your response was exactly what he was striving for.
hi·lar·i·ous –adjective 1. arousing great merriment; extremely funny: a hilarious story; a hilarious old movie. 2. boisterously merry or cheerful: a hilarious celebration. 3. merry; cheerful.
according to dictionary.com, this thread was not "pretty hilarious"
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