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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-25 10:49:41
September 25 2010 10:48 GMT
#1
About Blizzard's specifically. I understand the premise, but I want to bring up the case of Check.Prime and see if anyone else can figure out what's going on. Zenio is also in a similar situation with Check.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/kr/diamond/1/zerg/points/0

Rank Name Points Wins Losses Win%
28 CheckPrime 1,792 925 587 61.18%


Check has played an enormous amount of games, 50-100% more than most of those around him, which means he's not getting many points per win. The initial thought for explaining low PPW would be a weak strength of schedule which is entirely possible, but his win % is only 61%. Granted, 61% for Z on the Korean server is a good margin above average, but this is also Check that we're talking about- someone who's continually in contention for the title of best Z in the world.

Furthermore, his 61% is still significantly lower than Cezanne's (63%, 196-115), Sulli's (63%, 188-111) and Sketch (66.67%, 96-48.) I picked these players in particular because their PPW is all significantly higher than Check's. It's important to note that all of these players have less points than Check, therefore they lose less and gain more for a win against the same opponent, but Cezanne is less than 80 points behind and still maintains a large lead in PPW.

Sketch is 150~ points behind, but it's still quite a feat that he has by far the highest win % of any Z above 1600 points and has played less than 1/10th the amount of games that Check has. Is his strength of schedule (which he happens to be demolishing) that much higher than Check's to warrant the difference?

Aside from extreme situations like Check let his noob friend use his account or was off racing, what would explain the discrepancies in PPW? I read through ExcaliburZ's FAQs but still can't figure it out.

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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
September 25 2010 12:43 GMT
#2
I guess he might be a less stable player, losing more to players hes favored against than the other zergs. Probably means a higher susceptibility to cheese
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 25 2010 13:21 GMT
#3
Maybe he plays a lot of practice games with clan members?
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 25 2010 16:06 GMT
#4
On September 25 2010 22:21 SubtleArt wrote:
Maybe he plays a lot of practice games with clan members?

Then those would be in custom games.
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machination
Profile Joined September 2010
United States175 Posts
October 27 2010 18:13 GMT
#5
does he intentionally try new builds frequently?
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
October 27 2010 21:45 GMT
#6
I totally took MMR as Measles, Mumps and Rubella... I guess I was wrong.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 27 2010 21:50 GMT
#7
Though I haven't looked at the statistics myself, it might have to do something with the "quality of wins" - ie beating worse players and losing to better players or vica-verca, leading to you be placed in the MMR where you deserve to be.
But that's just more of a guess than anything.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
October 27 2010 21:54 GMT
#8
On October 28 2010 06:45 Elegance wrote:
I totally took MMR as Measles, Mumps and Rubella... I guess I was wrong.

I'm glad I'm not the only one
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