EPTOn September 23 2010 02:36 TechDeft wrote:
You aren't going to last a week in the military.
You aren't going to last a week in the military.
I am so glad to see that I wasn't the only person who saw that and thought, "Oh wow..."
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SirJolt
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I am so glad to see that I wasn't the only person who saw that and thought, "Oh wow..." | ||
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TechDeft
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On September 23 2010 03:49 SirJolt wrote: I am so glad to see that I wasn't the only person who saw that and thought, "Oh wow..." You know? The military depends on obedience and chain of command to work. Not conforming to the will of your superiors makes you a round peg in a square hole. This part is the best On September 23 2010 03:01 travis wrote: how the hell would u know anyways it's funny how wrong you are, and that you would say anything at all knowing nothing about me or my mindset I know because that is the way the military works. It has nothing to do with you, or your unbreakable spirit. Of course, I don't know who will take you seriously anyway, with you writing like you are school age person writing IM's. If you go into the military expecting not to be broken you will: A) Get broken twice as hard as everyone else or B) Get kicked out faster than you can say NO SIR | ||
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TechDeft
United States211 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:00 travis wrote: why, because im confident? u know jack shit about me, and basic training isn't a POW camp i know what it's going to be like already so don't be dumbasses You go right on thinking that! It's no trouble for me at all, and I'm sure your drill sergeants will quite enjoy you. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
Basic training is more of a mental challenge, they push you to see who the weak ones mentally are, to try and weed out people who cant take pressure situations. But for anyone who doesnt have some kind of disease (like OCD/bipolar/etc) it shouldnt be hard. Travis should be able to make it no prob if he really wants to do it. | ||
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Skyze
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TechDeft
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On September 23 2010 04:21 Skyze wrote: Honestly for anyone to fail in basic training, is hard. Least in Canada, the BARE MINIMUM to pass basic training is like, 19 pushups and stuff.. Thats quite bad, even tho ive been eating pure junk and sitting on my ass for the past year I can still do that. Basic training is more of a mental challenge, they push you to see who the weak ones mentally are, to try and weed out people who cant take pressure situations. But for anyone who doesnt have some kind of disease (like OCD/bipolar/etc) it shouldnt be hard. Travis should be able to make it no prob if he really wants to do it. Not in the American military. Anyone who bucks the trend is out. Seriously. Independent thought is not only discouraged, but basically forbidden. You are to take orders and execute them. Your job is not to think or ask, it is to do. Physically they are far different too. American boot camp is arduous, for the same reasons you mentioned...to check for mental weakness. In the American military, not blindly following orders is a mental weakness. He already stated that he WILL NOT be broken. If a recruitment officer heard that, they'd just laugh in his face. There is a reason that the US's military is a worldwide powerhouse, and Canada's....isn't | ||
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the entire point for me is that i don't mind taking orders, i don't mind being treated like shit, i don't mind most anything but yeah keep talking like you know me so well | ||
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TechDeft
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On September 23 2010 04:24 Skyze wrote: To also put it into perspective; two people from my HS class joined the military after we graduated.. They were the boys who always got picked on, were chubby/fat and just plain stupid (like you laugh at them how stupid they are, not able to even point out Canada on a map?? lol) and somehow they made it thru Basic Training, and are now making like 3 times the amount of money I am. Anyways, my point being, you have to be REALLY messed up/lazy to not make it thru basic training at least. If you are even close to right(any Canadian military around here?) than the Canadian military training is to the US military training what an elevator ride is to a mountain climb. | ||
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TechDeft
United States211 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:28 travis wrote: u guys are so retarded u don't even know what i mean yet you just make assumptions and run with it the entire point for me is that i don't mind taking orders, i don't mind being treated like shit, i don't mind most anything but yeah keep talking like you know me so well I never said I knew you at all. You said they will not break you. I'm taking about the institution that is the US military. With the mindset that YOU HAVE DESCRIBED(I'm not making assumptions, YOU said it), you will not last a week. Really, go tell a recruiter that you want to join, but that you will not be broken or intimidated. Just out of curiosity(it doesn't affect things, folks can be idiots no matter old they are), how old are you? | ||
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TechDeft
United States211 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:28 travis wrote: u guys are so retarded u don't even know what i mean yet you just make assumptions and run with it the entire point for me is that i don't mind taking orders, i don't mind being treated like shit, i don't mind most anything but yeah keep talking like you know me so well People should be less concerned with whether or not they are being insulted, and more concerned with whether or not it's the truth. (Yea, you are violating the idea of your own signature.) | ||
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good job though i also love how you COMPLETELY ignore what i say so that you can continue to act like you know what you're talking about | ||
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TechDeft
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On September 23 2010 04:33 travis wrote: in what way am i being insulted, and the fact that it isn't the truth is exactly why im arguing good job though i also love how you COMPLETELY ignore what i say so that you can continue to act like you know what you're talking about What you said was: but yeah keep talking like you know me so well I don't know you at all. Only what you've told me. I do however, know what I am talking about. I love how you have ignored literally everything I have said. | ||
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On September 23 2010 04:30 TechDeft wrote: I never said I knew you at all. You said they will not break you. I'm taking about the institution that is the US military. With the mindset that YOU HAVE DESCRIBED(I'm not making assumptions, YOU said it), you will not last a week. Really, go tell a recruiter that you want to join, but that you will not be broken or intimidated. Just out of curiosity(it doesn't affect things, folks can be idiots no matter old they are), how old are you? ah i missed this post actually so i see that you did reply to my points, sorry about that u know why i won't be broken? because im already willing to do whatever they tell me. im not some crybaby kid. im 26 years old and i've been through some shit already, and im a pretty tough son of a bitch. i also like challenges. and like i'd tell a recruiter or commander i can't be broken or intimidated lol, im not retarded | ||
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TechDeft
United States211 Posts
I sincerely wish you good luck when you finally old enough to enlist. I hope by then your attitude has adjusted to the point that you succeed. If not, I hope you are able to take the letdown well, and move on to another arena in life where your admirable persistence and independence will serve you well.(If not your communication skills.) | ||
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TechDeft
United States211 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:41 travis wrote: You have to keep in mind that you started this conversation by saying they will not break or intimidate you. That is what I have based my comments on. What you are saying here is essentially the opposite. ah i missed this post actually so i see that you did reply to my points, sorry about that u know why i won't be broken? because im already willing to do whatever they tell me. im not some crybaby kid. im 26 years old and i've been through some shit already, and im a pretty tough son of a bitch. i also like challenges. and like i'd tell a recruiter or commander i can't be broken or intimidated lol, im not retarded I don't think you are a crybaby kid(I'll be honest, I thought you were younger), you obviously have enough of a backbone to stand up for yourself, even if you did have to squirrel around in the conversation.(Ever consider sales?) As I said in my last comment, I truly wish you luck. Honestly, the reason I was being hard on you is because if you really had the attitude you initially described, your time in boot camp would have been short and humiliating. What you do with your life and how you live it is not my problem, but you'd be foolish to think you can stand up to drills and still become a military man. | ||
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On September 23 2010 04:46 TechDeft wrote: You have to keep in mind that you started this conversation by saying they will not break or intimidate you. That is what I have based my comments on. What you are saying here is essentially the opposite. I don't think you are a crybaby kid(I'll be honest, I thought you were younger), you obviously have enough of a backbone to stand up for yourself, even if you did have to squirrel around in the conversation.(Ever consider sales?) As I said in my last comment, I truly wish you luck. Honestly, the reason I was being hard on you is because if you really had the attitude you initially described, your time in boot camp would have been short and humiliating. What you do with your life and how you live it is not my problem, but you'd be foolish to think you can stand up to drills and still become a military man. i have no interest in "standing up to them" this clearly was just a misunderstanding of what i meant, but that's not really my fault as waht i said still makes perfect sense. i won't be intimidated, nor will i be broken. but neither of those things are necessary for me to be a great soldier the reason i even said that is that the original poster clearly was very intimidated when he went to meps. and i thought i'd make commentary on that, as i know if i was joining 8 years ago i'd probably be the same. now i'll probably just laugh inside. | ||
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TechDeft
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On September 23 2010 04:46 travis wrote: i have no interest in "standing up to them" this clearly was just a misunderstanding of what i meant, but that's not really my fault as waht i said still makes perfect sense. i won't be intimidated, nor will i be broken. but neither of those things are necessary for me to be a great soldier the reason i even said that is that the original poster clearly was very intimidated when he went to meps. and i thought i'd make commentary on that, as i know if i was joining 8 years ago i'd probably be the same. now i'll probably just laugh inside. Yea, you didn't communicate well. I understand that you won't be intimidated by the process and the idea of it. But you will be broken. If you can't be broken, than you are unfit for military service. The military is not like any job, school, or situation you have been in. (Unless you are part of a militia or nationwide gang) They break you, because if they don't, you are of no value to them. | ||
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