EPTOn September 16 2010 22:04 LuckyFool wrote:
This blog isn't very manner.
This blog isn't very manner.
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Manner is not an adjective - Page 3
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On September 16 2010 22:43 chrisSquire wrote: Home Run is a compound noun. Compound nouns can be made of adj + noun (silly post) or noun +noun (home run) or preposition + noun (underground) or prep + verb (output) lol you might have won the grammar game but i'm pretty sure rekrul will win the gtfo game, might want to categorically avoid the idea of playing games in this situation | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Redunzl
862 Posts
On September 16 2010 22:47 floor exercise wrote: Most people are used to it since it has been used this way for like 9 years now. I guess it can be annoying if you are new to the Starcraft multiplayer community experience /troll banish lvl 3 Do not be dismayed by my low post count. I have suffered this burden for years. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
What does annoy me is when it is used in its noun form, "He is such a good manner player" or "Idra is really bad manner." If "bad mannered" sounds awkward, just use the abbreviation "Idra is really BM." Also, I don't like the language evolves argument. There's a difference between language evolving and ignoring the egregrious misuse of language. I mean, we can all start talking about "should of" if we wanted to, but it wouldn't make it correct. Furthermore, it doesn't make logical sense. Talking about a "manner player" is like talking about a "discipline monk" or an "arm criminal," grammatically it's awkward and the change is pointless. If I thought that it was simply a form of slang it would probably not bother me, but I doubt that everyone who uses it incorrectly knows the correct use. All in all, it just feels like a really unnecessary change that achieves nothing except making the sentence sound incorrect. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
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Redunzl
862 Posts
On September 16 2010 22:53 Daigomi wrote: Haha, this annoys me so much too :p I don't mind it so much when people leave out the qualifier, since you could argue that it's a case of omission: "He is a mannered player" simply omits the "well," which is fine if it is generally accepted that mannered means well mannered. I'm fairly sure there are examples of this in standard English but I can't think of any right now. What does annoy me is when it is used in its noun form, "He is such a good manner player" or "Idra is really bad manner." If "bad mannered" sounds awkward, just use the abbreviation "Idra is really BM." Also, I don't like the language evolves argument. There's a difference between language evolving and ignoring the egregrious misuse of language. I mean, we can all start talking about "should of" if we wanted to, but it wouldn't make it correct. Furthermore, it doesn't make logical sense. Talking about a "manner player" is like talking about a "discipline monk" or an "arm criminal," grammatically it's awkward and the change is pointless. If I thought that it was simply a form of slang it would probably not bother me, but I doubt that everyone who uses it incorrectly knows the correct use. All in all, it just feels like a really unnecessary change that achieves nothing except making the sentence sound incorrect. I needed this. Thank you for showing me that there is still hope. I am all for omission of the qualifier. I should have mentioned that in the OP... would have kept the meme-sycophants at bay. | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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iNz
Sweden119 Posts
On September 16 2010 22:30 chrisSquire wrote: Manner Pylon is grammatical correct indeed. This is because it is a compound noun. Like "Tooth Paste" or Hospital Bed. Grammatically correct, correct? | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On September 16 2010 22:43 chrisSquire wrote: Home Run is a compound noun. Compound nouns can be made of the following combinations: Noun + Noun toothpaste Adjective + Noun monthly ticket Verb + Noun swimming pool Prep. + Noun underground Noun + Verb haircut Noun + Preposition hanger on Adjective + Verb dry-cleaning Prep. + Verb output It's not everyday that one is granted the opportunity teach the illustrious Rekrul. I can only hope that in the future I will be further blessed with the chance to learn from him. language is about the best form of communication. grammer shrammer blah. not playing by the rules in language could indeed make someone appear like an idiot, but other times it could make them a poet. lol, though i do agree with you that the term is very overused by the community. In it's current (grammatically incorrect) meme-ish state in the gaming community it is losing all value through blatant abuse by Artosis on GSL casts. As artosis uses the word, being a 'manner guy' is just being friendly in person, which almost everyone is, but thats not what manner is about. it's much deeper. and for the record, even people not related to the gaming community don't ever question the grammatical incorrectness when you use 'manner' in the way you hate *looks at girl angrily* *looks down at empty shot glass angrily* *looks back up at girl angrily and says* "MANNER JO! (give me manner)" *girl does not question grammar* *girl fills shot glass* actually now that i think about it i say 'manner please' to people who don't know anything about korean or sc and they always get it too lol | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
Oh my goood!!! | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
Manner is just a way of describing a GM player. | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
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Felka
Netherlands87 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On September 16 2010 23:31 ella_guru wrote: You can't dictate language use, otherwise you end up like the Quebec French and are pretty much SOL with what schools want you to learn and how you actually speak it. This point has been made a few times, but it seems like a fairly strange argument to make. Are you proposing that schools stop teaching language and that everyone speaks a language in whichever way they like? Every country in the world dictates language use to some extent. Some countries are just more autocratic about it than others. The whole point is to find a compromise between descriptive linguistics and prescriptive linguistics. The purpose of language is to allow people to communicate and while people might be able to communicate fairly effectively by ignoring some rules of grammar, communication would be much less effective if all rules of grammar were relative. Personally I quite like the idea of language evolving and changing. However, I don't like language evolution when the changes either make the language more complex (for example, if "manner" changed in the way it is used here, it would be an exception to the rule which would further complexify English), or when language is made less complex but at the cost of clarity (for example, people who use adjectives instead of adverbs). If language evolves it should become simpler or more concise, not more complex or vaguer. | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
On September 16 2010 22:40 chrisSquire wrote: Is it basically the same or is it the same? It is neither. Read the OP again. I made an argument based on standard English Grammar which holds that "manner" is still just a noun. GL and HF are abbreviations but "JoJo is a manner guy" and "Protoss is the most manner race" are abominations. Just because I made a blog to tell "the community" the error of their manner of speaking I do not thereby compel you to change your meme-loving ways. I am just making this for posterity. You did tell the community the error of it's usage, but you did in fact state that it "must be stopped". Now telling us that you don't compel us to change our meme-loving ways just sounds a bit contradicting. I actually just say "BM" but I think it's cute to sometimes say "dude you're fucking bad manner" because it makes me laugh so I tend to use a lot of internet slang in person with my friends (who are also gamers, and maaan did I get one of my friends to say "TY" a lot lol) and they just laugh haha. | ||
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