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the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
Okay, some of you know me already. I loved Brood War to bits, but just didn’t have the skill necessary to get particularly good at it. Naturally, when SC2 came out, I felt I should just put in the time and effort this time, ladder as much as possible, be the best I could be. I hoped that I could at least be good enough that just hopping on for a quick game wouldn’t be an exercise in shame and humiliation, like when I played BW.
How wrong I was.
The worst part about the whole thing is that, from what I’ve played so far, SC2 is nothing but cheese, cheese, cheese. I genuinely haven’t yet lost a game where someone didn’t cheese me. Take this most recent game I played, on Xel’Naga Caverns.
![[image loading]](http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8585/xelnaga1.jpg)
I started off in the top right, so as any good ‘toss player would, I open by setting up my proxy pylon and gateways, as indicated by the bright red squares on the map above. I start to chrono boost out my first zealots, and…
![[image loading]](http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6371/xelnaga2.jpg)
Lo and behold! He has set up a pair of proxy barracks directly behind my proxy 2 gate, he has, in effect, cheesed my cheese… the only solution for this was to get DTs as quickly as possible, so I teched to the shrine as fast as I could, and put it in a hidden location, as indicated on this map. If he was going to cheese, I’d damn well show him that I was ready to cheese his cheese on my cheese.
![[image loading]](http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3396/xelnaga3.png)
Unfortunately, just as the shrine came up, he landed a factory beside it that must have been floating around the back of my base for like… the whole game. Then started producing like, a million hellions. There’s just no way to scout that kind of play.
The real problem here is that I’m a diamond player with 2,000 ELO and I’ve played 900 games… and terran is so imba that once they decide to cheese you, you don't have a chance.
  
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the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
I wouldn't be SO angry about it, but flying buildings are 100% imba.
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I mean, you could've just had a couple of stalkers out, couldn't you?
Likewise, by the picture, having control of the xelnaga watch tower on the right would've helped you see the factory.
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Hmm? I don't think there are that many cheese threads so I can't find this very funny ._.
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Sc2 Theorem 4.5: Cheese begets whine.
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So you're complaining about seeing nothing but cheese, and yet you're proxy gating?
Also, there's no way you can scout an enemy factory in your base? You can't scout your base? You can't make spotter pylons?
EDIT: owait, did I just get trolled hardcore? /facepalm
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the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:39 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:
Hmm? I don't think there are that many cheese threads so I can't find this very funny ._.
For some reason I couldn't get to TL earlier and spent half an hour on the battle.net boards. It was enlightening.
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I think you mean LADDER is nothing but cheese.
Also, map size has something to do with it.
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Wtf. You cheesed, and then complained about being beaten by cheese?
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2000 ELO is quite good IMO. You must be like Horang2 of the sequel o.O
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United States4126 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:33 SirJolt wrote:
The real problem here is that I’m a diamond player with 2,000 ELO and I’ve played 900 games… and terran is so imba that once they decide to cheese you, you don't have a chance.
I hope you're being sarcastic about that because there's no one who's even close to 2,000 in diamond right now.
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After the hellions came out you should have transitioned into a cannon rush.
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the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
On September 05 2010 08:56 Felka wrote:
After the hellions came out you should have transitioned into a cannon rush.
This is the most perfect suggestion. I can't believe I didn't think of it D:
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so you have played 900 games of cheese? ive played a total of 200 games, and only about 5 were cheese. i am about currently about 1140~ pts in diamond so...............................................
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when you are drowning in cheese, the only solution is to add more cheese to the pool of cheese. if you can add enough cheese then your opponent will drown in cheese before you do. or you can add crackers. if you add crackers then you can transition to standard play by eating the cheese. I don't know if you would want to, though.
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Maybe you just suck, just an idea.
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Yo dawg I heard you like cheese, so I put a cheese in your cheese, so you can counter cheese my cheese. Or something like that.
Though I had to facepalm, after seeing how many people took this blog for 'real'.
edit2: I also would have suggested voids or a mothership after the attempted proxy.
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So you cheese someone, only to lose to his cheese, and you claim that:
a) Sc2 is stupid cause everybody cheeses *COUGH COUGH*
b) Terran cheese is impossible to stop, completely ignoring the fact that a proxy factory is and always will be the correct counter to proxy gates.
I can't tell if this is a troll blog or not. If it is, well done. If it's not, grow the fuck up and stop whining.
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EPT![[image loading]](http://img411.imageshack.us/i/xelnaga1.jpg/)
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