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ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
August 24 2010 22:12 GMT
#1
So, I've had some issues with the changing landscape of TL. It has nothing to do with the new layout (I love it)... instead it has to do with the community as a whole.

There are so many ridiculous posts that honestly make me wonder where the intelligence in this forum went. I got to page 3 of the "No health insurance - woman shoots self" thread and thought to myself, why am I reading this nonsense?

While I've had those moments in the past, its becoming more and more frequent.

Is it because of the influx of new TL members?

Is it because I'm getting older while the average age of a TL member probably hovers around 18 indefinitely?

I'm not trying to sound holier than thou, or pretend that I'm much more mature than everyone here... I suppose I've just noticed a trend that I wish I hadn't noticed.

/end rant

P.S. I'm 26.

*
MC Fighting!~
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 24 2010 22:17 GMT
#2
It's the you getting older and TL staying the same answer.

I'm curious what sort of threads you think used to populate this place?
Each day gets better : )
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
August 24 2010 22:17 GMT
#3
I just think its the new members that come from other gaming forums, and lets face it most gaming forums are 14y.o. shouting boring memes at eachother. they're just not used to having to put some thought behind their posts. The.... lack of knowledge about TL and how you post has always been there but since there has been such a large number of new users its more visible now then it was before.
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 24 2010 22:18 GMT
#4
Starcraft 2 came, and with it came an influx of WoW players who dont respect anyone or anything, and jsut needlessly troll and use QQ all the time.

Back when SC2 hadnt even been thought of except in our dreams, TL was a wonderful place full of bans on horrible posters and what have you


note : i am 18
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25995 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 22:21:30
August 24 2010 22:21 GMT
#5
The problem is three-fold:
- You are aging and your tastes are changing
- You are well above the average age at TL
- You are remembering the past through nostalgic, rosy glasses

Old TL is much worse than new TL. Modern TL users address each other more respectfully and the forum is moderated better; You are just remembering it how you remember it and not how it actually was.
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ThE.SparkZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States381 Posts
August 24 2010 22:23 GMT
#6
Plus, old TL had no BiggerT
A battle between gods is just so damn beautiful
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
August 24 2010 22:28 GMT
#7
Well, I think the quality of posts from the new posters who joined this year for SC2 is generally quite a bit lower. There's a lot more trolling, internet lulz and just stupid posts these days. All things said, TL is still a great community.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
August 24 2010 22:29 GMT
#8
On August 25 2010 07:23 ThE.SparkZ wrote:
Plus, old TL had no BiggerT


But still filled with people who love to kiss mod's asses.

Despite my low post count, I've actually been around since mid-2000's or so, and other than the influx of new posters (which isn't normal but it's sc2 so hey) there hasn't really been that big a change imo. But hey, I'm not a real active member so my view is just "in general."
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
August 24 2010 22:30 GMT
#9
This is the most tame forum I've ever been to.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 24 2010 22:38 GMT
#10
On August 25 2010 07:30 GreatFall wrote:
This is the most tame forum I've ever been to.


If that's the case....then I have no idea what kind of forums you've been to.

Then again....the forum I went to was moderated heavily because 10 year old kids potentially visited....
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
August 24 2010 23:35 GMT
#11
Go look at some random thread from 2005. You will be shocked.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 24 2010 23:36 GMT
#12
On August 25 2010 07:30 GreatFall wrote:
This is the most tame forum I've ever been to.


Yeah seriously. If you want to see a terrible forum, go check out the Heroes of Newerth main forum, I honestly believe 90% of the posters there are trolls.

What separates TL from other forums, in my opinion, is that its more of a community and less of a place you go ask a quick question, but with the release of SC2 there are a lot of new people who are coming here to just ask their question and be done.
SpavaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Croatia175 Posts
August 24 2010 23:40 GMT
#13
I mostly notice this on the strategy forum. A lot of stuff there is pure bs tbh...

I have been lurking this place for years and I don't think it drasticly changed... Altrough I probably wasn't here around 2005 or earlier
aka imagiNe... "What if Nydus worms could make my coffee, play 2v2 and close threads for me? That would be grand." - riptide
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
August 24 2010 23:47 GMT
#14
On August 25 2010 07:21 Chill wrote:
The problem is three-fold:
- You are aging and your tastes are changing
- You are well above the average age at TL
- You are remembering the past through nostalgic, rosy glasses

Old TL is much worse than new TL. Modern TL users address each other more respectfully and the forum is moderated better; You are just remembering it how you remember it and not how it actually was.


I agree with this, because I myself experience the same sensations. I'm older than you too :p
ModeratorGodfather
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 23:47:58
August 24 2010 23:47 GMT
#15
Thought the overall post quality back in mid 2000s was piss poor, but the community was closer and more tight knit. Certainly felt that way while I was lurking. Now, the overall post quality is much higher (Just take a look at a random thread from 2005 and you'll see how bad it was back then), but now the user count is skyrocketing and it feels like the old sense of community is slowly disappearing.
God Bless
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
August 24 2010 23:51 GMT
#16
I took your guys advice and looked through old posts. Check out my sweet new quote! I also found this gem from Manifesto7 shoutcasting in 04

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=18203


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1) download the teamspeak client: ftp://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/teamspeak.org/releases/ts2_client_rc2_2032.exe

2) PM me for IP.

3) Connection > Quick Connect.

4) enter ip and nic.

5) right-click your name and mute your mic. This will prevent everyone from recieving feedback from you. I dont know why it does it, but trust me it sucks. Failure to do so will result in a boot.

6) enjoy.
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sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
August 24 2010 23:58 GMT
#17
I haven't been around TOO long, but much earlier than SC2 beta started.

I wouldn't say it has gone totally downhill. Sure there are a lot of not-so-mature people on the site, but there are a lot more people who are mature. Yeah... moderators are real fast now, too. Must be all that training they got back in Beta testing jkjk

Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
August 25 2010 00:02 GMT
#18
I remember when I use to have really retarded conversations in the general forums, it definitely has got better if anything. Although nowadays I hardly post there because threads get too big too fast and I have nothing different to add anyway.

I feel like I have to read the whole thread before posting, that's why I post mostly in blogs, very few posts to read through.
No I'm never serious.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 25 2010 00:02 GMT
#19
On August 25 2010 08:47 Roffles wrote:
Thought the overall post quality back in mid 2000s was piss poor, but the community was closer and more tight knit. Certainly felt that way while I was lurking. Now, the overall post quality is much higher (Just take a look at a random thread from 2005 and you'll see how bad it was back then), but now the user count is skyrocketing and it feels like the old sense of community is slowly disappearing.
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
August 25 2010 00:09 GMT
#20
I've been lurking for a long time before SC2 beta came around, and I'm going to have to agree with the general statement that post quality has not actually dropped. The mods are doing as good a job as ever, but the influx of people is like the arrival of lots of new blood.
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