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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 12:17:33
August 22 2010 12:16 GMT
#1
Looked around and there isn't really a thread like this so here it goes:Try to keep the nostalgia to a minimum guys!

What does everyone think of the new banner? Better? Worse? Same? My opinion:
Pros of the old banner:
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- Nostalgic?
- HORSES!
- Light, whimsical tone
Cons of old banner:
- Looks kinda gay
- The font sucks
- Blurry


Pros of the new banner:
[image loading]
- Looks more awesome
- Sleek and professional
- The horse logo is pretty cool and could easily become an identifiable logo for TL
- Darker blue, again more professional
- THEY STILL KEPT THE HORSES
Cons of the new banner:
- Dropdown meanu looked kinda better before.

Curious to hear your thoughts

Poll: New banner vs Old Banner

New one is better (73)
 
72%

Old one is better (25)
 
25%

Meh, they're both the same (4)
 
4%

102 total votes

Your vote: New banner vs Old Banner

(Vote): Old one is better
(Vote): New one is better
(Vote): Meh, they're both the same






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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
August 22 2010 12:24 GMT
#2
I dont like change
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
August 22 2010 12:28 GMT
#3
New one is definitely better. The new horse logo makes me think of chess, which is fitting for a strategy gaming site.

Also, it looks a lot less gay.
I didn't choose the Terran life. The Terran life chose me. Flash fan 2008 - eternity. FRB 2013! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321242
SilentLight
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark12 Posts
August 22 2010 12:29 GMT
#4
I like the change!
wut?
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 12:31:47
August 22 2010 12:30 GMT
#5
The new design is clearly better... but I have some gripes:

-- mouse-over menus are annoying (and cover the news header)
-- the (old) white text over the banner should be incorporated into the layout somehow
-- the font needs some work (spacing between letters, 'm' is huge in 'team' )
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 22 2010 12:32 GMT
#6
On August 22 2010 21:30 paper wrote:
The new design is clearly better... but I have some gripes:

-- mouse-over menus are annoying (and cover the news header)
-- the (old) white text over the banner should be incorporated into the layout somehow
-- the font needs some work (spacing between letters, 'm' is huge in 'team' )


I actually love the new font. So much cleaner and professional looking.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
August 22 2010 12:33 GMT
#7
new one's better, its more fitting for sc2 the new era.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 22 2010 12:35 GMT
#8
In hindsight, I can't believe I had a slight doubt.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
August 22 2010 12:41 GMT
#9
There aren't many websites I've seen that hasn't lost half its users from a bad site overhaul. Whatever they did, they had the right mindset, don't try to do too much, make sure every change is actually an improvement on the original, don't make changes that are not an improvement to the site.

The PR was excellent too, hardcore fans are conservative, TL knew that and made a post telling them that nothing has changed, and indeed it is still the same great site, with the same great feel. Its very easy to bungle a site overhaul, but TL executed this very well, and made it not look like one.

I kinda wish Blizzard had this same approach with SC2 *jokingly.
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underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
August 22 2010 12:56 GMT
#10
New one definetly is nice still prefer the old one though because it gives a calming feel of freedom.
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 13:01:26
August 22 2010 12:59 GMT
#11
It's more professional imo. And TL having a professional team competing at the highest level I think it was well worth a change looking good in and out the game!

+ Show Spoiler +
The pro's under the new banner doesn't have "HORSES" (like the pros under the old banner) because the horses are still there in the bg so technically it was just a small "upgrade" without changing the identity of TL
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
Eggm
Profile Joined September 2009
United States152 Posts
August 22 2010 13:05 GMT
#12
I totally agree about the drop down menu's!! The old ones were far superior. But the new banner is way better.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
August 22 2010 13:08 GMT
#13
I prefer the new one I think, but change is always hard to deal with.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 22 2010 13:08 GMT
#14
I prefer the old one but as soon as I saw they were changing it I expected so much worse than this. I'm happy with it. It looks great (should have had faith in TL...).
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 22 2010 13:08 GMT
#15
i wasn't aware we had drop down menus before the change :|
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1250 Posts
August 22 2010 13:12 GMT
#16
New one is clearly better
Horses were super epic on the old one :O
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 22 2010 13:27 GMT
#17
The site in general looks cleaner, more current, and more elegant. Pretty good job to keep all the good things from the old TL.net and updating it.
Get it by your hands...
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 13:38:37
August 22 2010 13:38 GMT
#18
Do you guys have to keep "Original banner artwork: Jim Warren" on the bottom or did you forget to get rid of it? New banner looks nice though.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Enfold
Profile Joined March 2010
United States110 Posts
August 22 2010 13:48 GMT
#19
The new banner looks really clean. Love it
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 22 2010 13:57 GMT
#20
New banner still has the horses in it = I'm okay with it.
:)
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 22 2010 13:59 GMT
#21
On August 22 2010 22:57 synapse wrote:
New banner still has the horses in it = I'm okay with it.

I feel the same way. I like the darker colours.
They removed the "more options" under the search bar though
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
August 22 2010 14:11 GMT
#22
idk, old one kinda makes me think about the past/present/future of SC/TL. coulda just added the phrases under
Team[AoV]
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
August 22 2010 14:12 GMT
#23
new banner is a necessary evil, hate it but will deal.
boomer hands
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
August 22 2010 14:35 GMT
#24
I really liked the old banner, but since I don't really mind the new banner and even think it looks alright, I think it will grow on me.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
August 22 2010 14:41 GMT
#25
I didn't even notice the horsies in the background! Forgive me, for I have but barely awoke. The new banner has all of my love, all of my love, all of my love to it. Cause I get a little bit lonely, sometimes, without you babe (new banner).
Chunkybuddha
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada347 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 14:55:28
August 22 2010 14:53 GMT
#26
Banner is really cool, but the horses in the background.. man... might as well put dragons and knights in armor. I thought we were changing the banner, not half-assing it. You kept the same thing, and put modern block letters on top.

The horse thing is lame, but the horse symbol is fucking badass. That's why they put a symbol there, looks cool and symbolizes power/cunning. Why do we need faded, blue unicorns in the back, super gay imo, and lazy. If you want a new banner, get one, but don't just alter it.
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vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
August 22 2010 15:29 GMT
#27
I love it. Those horsies have gotten me through some tough times, and so long as they remain I will be pleased.
Wannabe zerg player
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
August 22 2010 15:32 GMT
#28
Well, it has horses.
Anyways, you could pass it off as a "new banner for a new age"

It's nice and sleek too!
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 22 2010 15:46 GMT
#29
New banner wins
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Dragonreaper
Profile Joined July 2009
United States10 Posts
August 22 2010 15:59 GMT
#30
You know I wrote a long over analyzing post about the banner design...and then by the time I finished I realized I seemed crazy reading it back to myself. So that aside, in my opinion the line and bottom text could use some centering to the text above and the right side of the horse logo could be larger (which I think is more anatomically correct anyway?).
Overall though I like it, as long as I can see the old horses I'm good.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 22 2010 16:14 GMT
#31
lol @ all SC2 scrubs calling old one gay
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
ProFail
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)81 Posts
August 22 2010 16:19 GMT
#32
Love the new design, looks very professional, I just dont like the mouse over drop down menu, really annoying to use.
Didnt play Beta, Never played any RTS, straight in plat.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 22 2010 16:36 GMT
#33
On August 22 2010 23:53 Chunkybuddha wrote:
Banner is really cool, but the horses in the background.. man... might as well put dragons and knights in armor. I thought we were changing the banner, not half-assing it. You kept the same thing, and put modern block letters on top.

The horse thing is lame, but the horse symbol is fucking badass. That's why they put a symbol there, looks cool and symbolizes power/cunning. Why do we need faded, blue unicorns in the back, super gay imo, and lazy. If you want a new banner, get one, but don't just alter it.


the horses at the back have been around too long..

and don't diss jim warrens painting yo!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
August 22 2010 16:47 GMT
#34
On August 23 2010 00:59 Dragonreaper wrote:
You know I wrote a long over analyzing post about the banner design...and then by the time I finished I realized I seemed crazy reading it back to myself. So that aside, in my opinion the line and bottom text could use some centering to the text above and the right side of the horse logo could be larger (which I think is more anatomically correct anyway?).
Overall though I like it, as long as I can see the old horses I'm good.


Even discounting the history of the horses on TL, I think it adds cool texture/depth to the banner.
lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
August 22 2010 17:12 GMT
#35
It's alright. I like the new sleek layout while preserving the old style; however, the banner seems a bit...lackluster imo. So...prefer old banner, but I like the new design. At least you can see the remnants in the background :D


--
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
August 22 2010 20:15 GMT
#36
The banner wasn't the only thing that changed. The whole look of the website has changed slightly as well. I just want to thank the teamliquid staff for doing a great job and for keeping in mind the various views of its users. We all know how much it sucks to have Blizzard screwing us up at times and surely learn from those experiences!
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 20:22:49
August 22 2010 20:21 GMT
#37
The new banner feels more like an eSport/starcraft site. It's cleancut with and the font/logo/solid colors. It's very efficient and to the point, Name-Logo-Content(SC Progaming, Community, Team) - what you'd expect from a professional site for news and information.

The old one is more artistic and homely. Its less focused. It was a bit warmer and welcoming imo, so that is a bit of a shift. Also the font was a bit weird with the randomly missing letter outlines hehe.

I liked it, but the new one is probably more suitable to the direction of TL in 2010. Nice touch keeping the horses in there.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
August 22 2010 20:34 GMT
#38
Old one was great, and I didn't think it could be outdone. Glad to be wrong, though. New one is sleek, but still has the horses. Perfect!
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