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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 12:17:33
August 22 2010 12:16 GMT
#1
Looked around and there isn't really a thread like this so here it goes:Try to keep the nostalgia to a minimum guys!

What does everyone think of the new banner? Better? Worse? Same? My opinion:
Pros of the old banner:
[image loading]
- Nostalgic?
- HORSES!
- Light, whimsical tone
Cons of old banner:
- Looks kinda gay
- The font sucks
- Blurry


Pros of the new banner:
[image loading]
- Looks more awesome
- Sleek and professional
- The horse logo is pretty cool and could easily become an identifiable logo for TL
- Darker blue, again more professional
- THEY STILL KEPT THE HORSES
Cons of the new banner:
- Dropdown meanu looked kinda better before.

Curious to hear your thoughts

Poll: New banner vs Old Banner

New one is better (73)
 
72%

Old one is better (25)
 
25%

Meh, they're both the same (4)
 
4%

102 total votes

Your vote: New banner vs Old Banner

(Vote): Old one is better
(Vote): New one is better
(Vote): Meh, they're both the same






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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
August 22 2010 12:24 GMT
#2
I dont like change
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
August 22 2010 12:28 GMT
#3
New one is definitely better. The new horse logo makes me think of chess, which is fitting for a strategy gaming site.

Also, it looks a lot less gay.
I didn't choose the Terran life. The Terran life chose me. Flash fan 2008 - eternity. FRB 2013! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321242
SilentLight
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark12 Posts
August 22 2010 12:29 GMT
#4
I like the change!
wut?
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 12:31:47
August 22 2010 12:30 GMT
#5
The new design is clearly better... but I have some gripes:

-- mouse-over menus are annoying (and cover the news header)
-- the (old) white text over the banner should be incorporated into the layout somehow
-- the font needs some work (spacing between letters, 'm' is huge in 'team' )
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 22 2010 12:32 GMT
#6
On August 22 2010 21:30 paper wrote:
The new design is clearly better... but I have some gripes:

-- mouse-over menus are annoying (and cover the news header)
-- the (old) white text over the banner should be incorporated into the layout somehow
-- the font needs some work (spacing between letters, 'm' is huge in 'team' )


I actually love the new font. So much cleaner and professional looking.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
August 22 2010 12:33 GMT
#7
new one's better, its more fitting for sc2 the new era.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 22 2010 12:35 GMT
#8
In hindsight, I can't believe I had a slight doubt.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
August 22 2010 12:41 GMT
#9
There aren't many websites I've seen that hasn't lost half its users from a bad site overhaul. Whatever they did, they had the right mindset, don't try to do too much, make sure every change is actually an improvement on the original, don't make changes that are not an improvement to the site.

The PR was excellent too, hardcore fans are conservative, TL knew that and made a post telling them that nothing has changed, and indeed it is still the same great site, with the same great feel. Its very easy to bungle a site overhaul, but TL executed this very well, and made it not look like one.

I kinda wish Blizzard had this same approach with SC2 *jokingly.
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underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
August 22 2010 12:56 GMT
#10
New one definetly is nice still prefer the old one though because it gives a calming feel of freedom.
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 13:01:26
August 22 2010 12:59 GMT
#11
It's more professional imo. And TL having a professional team competing at the highest level I think it was well worth a change looking good in and out the game!

+ Show Spoiler +
The pro's under the new banner doesn't have "HORSES" (like the pros under the old banner) because the horses are still there in the bg so technically it was just a small "upgrade" without changing the identity of TL
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Eggm
Profile Joined September 2009
United States152 Posts
August 22 2010 13:05 GMT
#12
I totally agree about the drop down menu's!! The old ones were far superior. But the new banner is way better.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
August 22 2010 13:08 GMT
#13
I prefer the new one I think, but change is always hard to deal with.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 22 2010 13:08 GMT
#14
I prefer the old one but as soon as I saw they were changing it I expected so much worse than this. I'm happy with it. It looks great (should have had faith in TL...).
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 22 2010 13:08 GMT
#15
i wasn't aware we had drop down menus before the change :|
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Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1250 Posts
August 22 2010 13:12 GMT
#16
New one is clearly better
Horses were super epic on the old one :O
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 22 2010 13:27 GMT
#17
The site in general looks cleaner, more current, and more elegant. Pretty good job to keep all the good things from the old TL.net and updating it.
Get it by your hands...
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 13:38:37
August 22 2010 13:38 GMT
#18
Do you guys have to keep "Original banner artwork: Jim Warren" on the bottom or did you forget to get rid of it? New banner looks nice though.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Enfold
Profile Joined March 2010
United States110 Posts
August 22 2010 13:48 GMT
#19
The new banner looks really clean. Love it
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 22 2010 13:57 GMT
#20
New banner still has the horses in it = I'm okay with it.
:)
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