• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:17
CEST 21:17
KST 04:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Do we have a pimpest plays list? AI Question ASL21 General Discussion Using AI to optimize marketing campaigns [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1259 users

so what's the deal with beta ending?

Blogs > tomc
Post a Reply
tomc
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
August 21 2010 05:11 GMT
#1
beta ends.

It's too bad that it had to end eventually. Good and bad times were had. Units rose and fell to and from power through the patches and new friends were made. Though phase 2 was so incredibly short in comparison to 1, I was still glad enough just to play through it.

Many zerg units went through some incredible changes, the newer units obviously went through the most. My favorite unit, the roach, has gone through too many damn changes. I had to sit through nerf after nerf of the wonderful roach, it saddens me to this day. Then again, it used to be pretty incredible. Maybe I'm still stuck in the mindset of how strong it was. I won probably 75% of my games because of fast 1 base roach rushing. Though, it's not really rushing since just 6-10 roaches after a few minutes used to be so effective. I feel that the double supply nerf for roaches probably evened them out to be one of the more balanced units. Without scouting, roaches are a risk. Obviously that means that I should scout, but I'm not sure I've reached that level yet. Speedlings are usually a safe bet against toss. I can distract them long enough to create a big batch of Mutalisks and they're likely to keep building zealots if I keep enforcing with more lings to speed around their supply. This also ensures that IM not being attacked.

SotG: State of the Game Podcasts

Been going through these lately. Obviously, they're almost exactly like ArenaCast. Get a bunch of big name players in together to talk about the latest patch notes and tournaments. Sure, you won't hear much strategy talk in here, but it's fun to hear a bunch of e-famous talking about SC2 like they're on 'The View' with penises.

One section that struck my interest today was when they were talking about a silver/gold tournament. I'll have to go back to listen to it a bit more closely as it was just playing in my car, but it sounded like a lot of fun. They mentioned incentives for silver players to possibly meet people to practice with, get your name out, and generally meet some new friends. The rewards wouldn't be cash or anything like that, but lessons from pros. This is a fantastic idea and it's no wonder so many people signed up. I probably will do so as well. I believe this league is called the Get Better Fast League featured on the TeamLiquid forums (linked).

Just for reference, I play under tom_c or tomc.

Another thing I wanted to talk about is how right the casters were when they were saying that players from copper to gold (who pretty much started at SC2 and weren't good enough or just plain weren't competitive enough to play at a higher level of SC2) didn't really have much to do during beta other than ladder all the time. This is 100% true. Yes, there's a few custom games worth playing, but overall you're not playing 4v4 against friends if you only know a person or two from RL that you've convinced to try their hand at a strategy game for a change. I see people streaming with lots of people in vent with them, with friends list going at around 15+ realID friends online at a time, when I have maybe 5-6 and ALL of them are just on WoW. Does the social aspect of chat channels really make this much difference? Or have they just been competitive enough to get their name out there as a player who wants to play? I enjoy laddering, but it does get old especially with the amount of badly played cheese on silver. You're hard put to find 5 good games in a row, with 2 of them being proxies another 6 pool ect. Some might argue that those are real games as well, but early game is not my weakness. I'm used to early game. It's late game that's the most fun and hardest to get used to.

I have more to talk about but I'll save it for another entry. Thanks to everyone who played beta, even if I'm not even close enough rank to play against you. Everyone's streams, Husky/HD's VoD's, replays, and discussions have helped immensely. I hope to see everyone return on the 27th. I'll be out there with the millions of other nerds at GameStop picking up my preorder. But I'll get a discount for working there once a month. HA!

In last news, the 'dota' for sc2 is coming along well. I looks and plays very similar to hon, except it's not a $30 waste of money for the same one map and a few extra non-dota heroes. I had to sneak that jab in there, sorry.

*
tomeeeo.506 @ SC2
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
August 21 2010 05:13 GMT
#2
So whats the deal with 2 huge walls of text one minute apart?
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 21 2010 05:13 GMT
#3
It's like I stepped into the past :O
tomc
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
August 21 2010 05:15 GMT
#4
Shit, I'm sorry. I'm just reposting my old blogs since my last posting site went down .

I'll try to stagger them more.
tomeeeo.506 @ SC2
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
August 21 2010 05:23 GMT
#5
Hahaha I was just being silly. They're actually really well written
tomc
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
August 21 2010 05:25 GMT
#6
On August 21 2010 14:23 Lexpar wrote:
Hahaha I was just being silly. They're actually really well written

Thanks, just really dated entries now o_o. I figured I might as well try to have everything in one place and not jump from blog site to blog site, heh.
tomeeeo.506 @ SC2
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 21 2010 06:26 GMT
#7
Dude I totally agree about strategy in silver/bronze, I play my first of the day and got cannon cheesed and lost due to a miss micro of my first zealot but I dragged the game out to almost fifteen minutes because he was so bad. Very next game i get six pooled, hold it of then counter and I win in five minutes. Sorry I turned your blog into a QQ post but I just wish I was good enough to get into a higher league because I love late game like you said.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 530
IndyStarCraft 133
UpATreeSC 104
BRAT_OK 63
JuggernautJason31
MindelVK 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23042
Calm 3665
ggaemo 246
Soma 212
Dewaltoss 104
Aegong 33
sSak 30
Backho 26
Movie 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Dota 2
XaKoH 470
monkeys_forever211
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2454
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu330
Other Games
Grubby5423
B2W.Neo1776
Liquid`RaSZi1192
FrodaN1150
Beastyqt768
qojqva762
shahzam300
C9.Mang0229
DeMusliM174
KnowMe132
Hui .82
Mew2King55
elazer52
Trikslyr48
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV434
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream41
StarCraft 2
angryscii 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 9
• Dystopia_ 4
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 31
• 80smullet 18
• Michael_bg 6
• RayReign 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• imaqtpie1683
Other Games
• WagamamaTV442
• Scarra377
• Shiphtur279
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 43m
GSL
14h 13m
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
1d 14h
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
1d 15h
OSC
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
BSL
4 days
GSL
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.