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Open letter to Big T: Advice

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Naught
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Denmark59 Posts
August 17 2010 01:16 GMT
#1
Sup Big T.

I've been watching your stream a lot lately, and I enjoy it tremendously. Thanks for the huge effort you put into it on a daily basis, I really appreciate it.

I think you are doing a great job. However, there is room for improvement.

With all the negativity flying around in here, I figured I'd try a different approach.

Here's some constructive criticism and advice. You can do with it what you want, as it's only meant to be a helping hand.

1. Be objective at all times. I know it can be difficult, we all have our favorite players, but it really is one of the most essential things when casting games for a mixed crowd.

2. Ignore the obvious trolls or people who don't respect your wishes. (Messaging you in-game etc.) You will come off as a much more professional caster if you ignore stuff like this. If someone messages you in game, simply block the person and continue casting the game. It makes you look bad if you start ranting about peoples lack of respect in the midst of a game. It's much better to politely remind people of this, in between games, so the game itself becomes uninterrupted.

3. No profanity. We all enjoy to use a bit of profanity when chilling with friends, however using profanity during a casting session is never a good idea. It's not too big of a deal if it slips once in a while in a heated in game moment, but you should always try to avoid using profanity. This is especially true, if you one day find yourself sponsored by a big cooperation.

4. Never insult the opposition. This is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. Never talk bad about your competition, instead talk about all the good things about your stream. All the great games you've casted and all the great games that will be casted in the future. People get put off by someone telling them, how much better they are compared to others, or how bad the others are, even if it's done with finesse.

5. Crying will always make you look bad. If you absolutely need to complain about something, do it in a professional manner, and get it over with fast. Viewers hate when a caster gets butt-hurt, so avoid that at all costs.

6. Respect the players at all times. The players are your key to success, not the viewers. If you get really good relations with the players, especially the top ranked ones, then I assure you the viewers will come. Never talk degrading about players (Unless they truly deserve it. I'll let you be the judge on that one) and when questioning their in-game decisions, do it in a manner that doesn't make them look like idiots. Remember you are streaming for a huge audience, how you treat them will reflect back on you.

7. Never talk to either player, discussing in game events, if the series is still undecided, it really is inappropriate. There's always a chance you might give away information unintentionally.

8. Mentioning your sponsor in between games is of course needed. Make sure to do it in a fast and precise manner. Tell the viewers the essentials, but try to avoid drawing it out. If people are interested in your sponsor or simply wants to support you by checking out the website, then they will easily figure how to sign up, and how to use the website etc. No need to go into details about that.

9. Analyze, analyze, analyze. Viewers love when someone else, in this case the caster, does all the thinking for them. Try to analyze every decision a player makes, and then draw a conclusion. This is what makes casters like Tasteless and day9 so good. This is what divides the good casters from the great casters, and the great casters from the true amazing casters. A decent caster will tell the viewers what he sees, but the great caster will tell the viewers what he sees and then draw conclusions based on this.

10. Knowing as much as possible about the game, is necessary to becoming a great caster. Being a diamond player, you probably know a lot more than I do. However, if you feel your knowledge lacks in some parts of the game, this could be a specific race or unit, I suggest you somehow get to know that race or unit better. This is really important and is a necessity for drawing competent conclusions.

11. Diversity is a good thing, it keeps the game fresh and the viewers entertained. Therefore try mixing up the games as much as possible. This means getting a good mix of races represented. Also try to mix up the players. It's nice to ask the viewers what game they want to see, but tbh the outcome is pretty obvious. Instead you should also go for the less known players once in a while. What you defiantly want to avoid at all costs, is the perception of player bias from your side, within the player base. That will only reflect back on you in a negative way.

12. Even though you think you are super awesome and know it all ( don't we all ), it's always better to take the humble route. This is one of the reasons Trumps stream is so popular, besides the awesome content of course. You want to avoid coming off as arrogant, at all costs. Being humble at times, should counter arrogance.

13. Treat all the players with respect, regardless of their skill, unless they've done something to deserve otherwise. They are and will always be your number one asset.

14. Switch to USTREAM ^^

15. Don't read aloud what you write to players etc. It does way more hurt than good. As interesting as it may be, some people will just abuse it or misunderstand you, causing drama. Instead, in between games, if you need to do some maintainance/contact players etc. play some music for the viewers and get the business done.

That's pretty much it. I wish you the best of luck in your future casting endeavors

***
'Why kill Menkus!?' - MC
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
August 17 2010 01:26 GMT
#2
Yo tell BigT I said to keep it real dawg.
Eiserne
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States340 Posts
August 17 2010 01:29 GMT
#3
I think if these things need to be said, you need to find a different day job.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 17 2010 01:38 GMT
#4
10. Knowing as much as possible about the game, is necessary to becoming a great caster. Being a diamond player, you probably know a lot more than I do. However, if you feel your knowledge lacks in some parts of the game, this could be a specific race or unit, I suggest you somehow get to know that race or unit better. This is really important and is a necessity for drawing competent conclusions.


This is by far the most important.

Work on your game IQ. Day9 wasnt born with the ability to have deep in-depth analysis and game-sense (despite popular belief ) Even the most obnoxious and egocentric casters can be considered great casters if they know what they are talking about. And learn the "basics" of every matchup. No need to master them, but dont let "I main so-and-so" be an excuse for absolutely abysmal game knowledge.

Dont give up though, but I think it would be beneficial if you took a casting hiatus and worked on your game and the other stuff.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
August 17 2010 01:38 GMT
#5
I love this OP, you should just rename it to "open letter to upcoming/new casters"
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 03:19:24
August 17 2010 01:38 GMT
#6
5/5

16. Spend some time pushing weight on a bench. It will make you look like like a sloth with big arms and a tiny little chest.

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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 17 2010 01:43 GMT
#7
the best thing for a caster to do is let his ego go and focus only on making the games as exciting as possible and making an enjoyable listening environment for the audience

if you can't do that you shouldn't cast imo
RIP Aaliyah
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 17 2010 01:44 GMT
#8
going on and on and on about the word "tight" is also something you should try to avoid
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Revolt
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States288 Posts
August 17 2010 01:46 GMT
#9
i doubt he'll read any of this.
the guy has huge ego.lol
good advice though.
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 17 2010 01:47 GMT
#10
Here's the real list for BigT only:
1. Stop repeating everything you say in a different order the second time.
2. Stop apologizing.
3. More energy in your casts.
4. Stop missing critical battles when you obs.

Bad in game commentary is kinda the standard caster build. People who can't do #4 well either review a replay or have a co caster to catch stuff so doing it solo you gotta pay attention more.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
August 17 2010 01:48 GMT
#11
Good advice, a lot of it could be useful for other commentators as well :p
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
August 17 2010 01:55 GMT
#12
Dear BigT, go and watch BiggerT in its entirety. Learn from biggerT, he's an awesome caster. I think if you watch all 3 hours of biggerT you'll get a good understanding of your own shortfalls and how to improve
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 17 2010 01:56 GMT
#13
One thing that I like about casters (and you do a fairly good job btw) is player knowledge. It is nice when casters know details about even less known players, such as play style, location, tournaments won.

Another thing to do is to stop apologizing, as Chill pointed out- you constantly do it. If you make a mistake, if something happens just ignore it. Apologizing distracts from the game (which is what we really came to see). A point that goes along with this is be more confident, if you think something is going to happen, say so- don't wobble on your points (ie, "x is going to attack now", vs "I think he may attack now"). If you are wrong, think later on why you were wrong- and improve your game knowledge in that specific area (again don't apologize for being wrong). Talking about distraction, please, please ignore spam- and make sure you are 100% focused on the game. I've seen when you went to deal with some chat bullshit, while there was a major battle- NO! Also, please work on your observing skills, making sure not to miss any details.

There are going to be tons of streamers, if you want to stay relevant then you must work on improving. Stick with it and get good. Good luck!
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
August 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#14
On August 17 2010 10:38 deth wrote:
I love this OP, you should just rename it to "open letter to upcoming/new casters"

Yeah, I'm really sick of seeing this guy's name pop up all over the place, all I've seen from him is poor casting, shameless self-promotion, player abuse and a bunch of posts defending himself.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 17 2010 02:02 GMT
#15
also if an internet troll that you dont know is calling you over and over during a cast SILENCE YOUR PHONE
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LastArgument
Profile Joined July 2010
United States152 Posts
August 17 2010 02:04 GMT
#16
I would listen to biggerT's stream and mimic what he does. Would help improve your casting alot.
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Naught
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Denmark59 Posts
August 17 2010 02:08 GMT
#17
On August 17 2010 10:38 deth wrote:
I love this OP, you should just rename it to "open letter to upcoming/new casters"



Yeah... Good idea Unfortunatly it seems I can't edit the Title. But yeah, that title would probably be more appropriate ^^
'Why kill Menkus!?' - MC
Surrealz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States449 Posts
August 17 2010 03:09 GMT
#18
watch biggerT's stream, and do what he does. It could greatly improve the quality of your stream
1a2a3a
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 17 2010 03:57 GMT
#19
On August 17 2010 10:38 Butigroove wrote:
5/5

16. Spend some time pushing weight on a bench. It will make you look like like a sloth with big arms and a tiny little chest.

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where did you get my picture from?
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 05:27:34
August 17 2010 05:26 GMT
#20
On August 17 2010 12:57 n.DieJokes wrote:
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On August 17 2010 10:38 Butigroove wrote:
5/5

16. Spend some time pushing weight on a bench. It will make you look like like a sloth with big arms and a tiny little chest.

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where did you get my picture from?

the BigT stream thread
I thought it was him lolol

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142728
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Raizyte
Profile Joined August 2010
United States21 Posts
August 17 2010 05:50 GMT
#21
^ it is...
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
August 17 2010 05:55 GMT
#22
Seriously? That's BigT? I thought he would be white o.o.
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CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
August 23 2010 04:14 GMT
#23
On August 17 2010 10:46 Revolt wrote:
i doubt he'll read any of this.
the guy has huge ego.lol
good advice though.


Ye, if only his casting skillz where as big as his ego, he would topple day9 rofl

Its no use telling him stuff or whatever the fuck, his ignorance is even bigger than his ego.

Leave it to ................... Luck!!
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