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Dark Templars vs Terran

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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 16:08:10
August 05 2010 15:50 GMT
#1
I am not going to complain that they are underpowered or whatnot, nor are they overpowered. I just dont know why terrans seem to NEVER expect DTs.
When the DTs show up at terran's wall, they scan and kill it. But then another single DT comes up after the scan and continues the first one's business. Normally terran would have an eng bay (since mm is standard against toss, and they want upgrades), so they can throw up turrets, but DTs can easily snipe the scvs building them, and carry on to inflict more damage on the mining/army.
Ok, and even if they do kill the DTs, that mindfucks them into either saving Oc energy for scans, or making turrets everywhere. While hes saving energy/building turrets, i could be making a large zealsentryimmort army at his nat. Usually by this time they either gg or just ragequit, but it seems every terran i've faced in a while is unprepared for it.

Why do terrans never expect DTs when facing toss?

Note: This isn't complete noobs playing, this is plat league.

*
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9768 Posts
August 05 2010 15:57 GMT
#2
Yes, these are scrubs. It's plat league.

If you're looking for decent play, get into diamond. Even then a lot of people will be horrible.
boomer hands
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
August 05 2010 16:20 GMT
#3
I hate when people use DTs against me , it feels like Bisu build 2.0
i dunno lol
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
August 05 2010 16:26 GMT
#4
DTs imo is a solid option vs Terran due to how it provides both opportunity to do dmg, forces the terran to use scans and defense that he/she would otherwise not want to and most importantly it provides map control until the terran actually gets a raven.

Mada Mada Dane
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
August 05 2010 16:35 GMT
#5
On August 06 2010 00:57 seRapH wrote:
Yes, these are scrubs. It's plat league.

If you're looking for decent play, get into diamond. Even then a lot of people will be horrible.

harsh but true
more weight
shawty
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom294 Posts
August 05 2010 16:45 GMT
#6
i always go fast ghosts for this exact reason, however several times i have missed my EMPs and cried
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 05 2010 16:47 GMT
#7
dts suck so bad vs terran lol

if they go 1/1/1 you're instantly dead

if they scout ur dt tech (which they have a million ways to do) they are going to own you

if they wall in it won't do shit

and there's about a million other things that can go wrong



of course this is all assuming you're playing decent players.
RAUS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
210 Posts
August 05 2010 16:53 GMT
#8
its also owned by ghost/marine if you have a wall. something thats very difficult to handle is warp prism dt expand. its kind of like dt drops but more expensive, yet much more annoying. the moment the terran moves out hes got a dt and 3 zealots in his base
recognize me?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 17:00:41
August 05 2010 17:00 GMT
#9
On August 06 2010 01:53 RAUS wrote:
its also owned by ghost/marine if you have a wall. something thats very difficult to handle is warp prism dt expand. its kind of like dt drops but more expensive, yet much more annoying. the moment the terran moves out hes got a dt and 3 zealots in his base


this is only slightly related but i saw the coolest damn thing on LZ's stream last night

lz was playing tvp, he went for 1rax FE into 3 more rax + adding factory

he comsatted and saw the toss with 1 gate adding on 3 more gates, so he was like "well he's allining to try to kill me". he proceeds to build 3 bunkers at his front (this was lt) and fills them with marines


then suddenly, boom, warp prism appears above his ramp, sentry/stalker/zealot unloads, sentry forcefields his ramp so the marines can't come up, and the guy warps in 4 stalkers above his ramp. proceeds to kill a bunch of scvs and his barracks while warping in more units until LZ finally holds it off (losing quite a bit). lz does manage to kill the warp prism.


guess what, 1-1.5 minutes later another warp prism appears dropping an immortal and a stalker and he warps in 5 more units and forcefields the ramp again. the soon warps in 5 more units and lz has to gg.



the guy even saved up his chronoboost to chronoboost all 4 warpgates for his initial warping in, it was so awesome
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
August 05 2010 17:40 GMT
#10
On August 06 2010 00:50 57 Corvette wrote:
Note: This isn't complete noobs playing, this is plat league.


hahaha thx for the laugh :D
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 05 2010 17:43 GMT
#11
On August 06 2010 02:40 exeexe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 00:50 57 Corvette wrote:
Note: This isn't complete noobs playing, this is plat league.


hahaha thx for the laugh :D

yeah I'm in diamond and I definitely play like a noob... plat can't be much better lol

but anyway, any Terran (or player of any race that is) will be prepared for an early cloak rush, unless they're winging their build. It's one of the first things you make sure you cover when planning your builds.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 05 2010 18:42 GMT
#12
On August 06 2010 02:00 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 01:53 RAUS wrote:
its also owned by ghost/marine if you have a wall. something thats very difficult to handle is warp prism dt expand. its kind of like dt drops but more expensive, yet much more annoying. the moment the terran moves out hes got a dt and 3 zealots in his base


this is only slightly related but i saw the coolest damn thing on LZ's stream last night

lz was playing tvp, he went for 1rax FE into 3 more rax + adding factory

he comsatted and saw the toss with 1 gate adding on 3 more gates, so he was like "well he's allining to try to kill me". he proceeds to build 3 bunkers at his front (this was lt) and fills them with marines


then suddenly, boom, warp prism appears above his ramp, sentry/stalker/zealot unloads, sentry forcefields his ramp so the marines can't come up, and the guy warps in 4 stalkers above his ramp. proceeds to kill a bunch of scvs and his barracks while warping in more units until LZ finally holds it off (losing quite a bit). lz does manage to kill the warp prism.


guess what, 1-1.5 minutes later another warp prism appears dropping an immortal and a stalker and he warps in 5 more units and forcefields the ramp again. the soon warps in 5 more units and lz has to gg.



the guy even saved up his chronoboost to chronoboost all 4 warpgates for his initial warping in, it was so awesome



omg ty so much travis...I AM GOING TO TRY THIS
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 05 2010 18:44 GMT
#13
I'm pretty paranoid. I always get an an engy bay around the time my fact finishes (If I'm not going heavy bio/megarax)
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
August 05 2010 18:47 GMT
#14
They dont expect it because thier scouting blows, and everyone thinks they will be able to handle it with just scan
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
August 05 2010 19:23 GMT
#15
DTs aren't expected anymore because they are just so damn ineffective as a rush strategy, especially vs Terran. Dark Templar tech is just so damn expensive and Terran has so many easy ways to stop it (turrets, scan, raven, EMP, wallin) and the fact that the dark shrine takes nearly 2 minutes gametime to complete makes the rush come later than most of its counters.

Dark Templar just got seriously nerfed in Starcraft 2 that their only use is as a "WTF why did he build those" unit.
ted cruz is the zodiac killer
gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
August 05 2010 20:19 GMT
#16
The problem with going DTs early on is that Terran likes to wall off, is going to have an engy bay anyway for upgrades, and if they do any sort of aggression before you get them, your gateway-only army is boned. I can potentially see their use midgame to harass expos, but even then I'd rather just run some gateway units over there instead.
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 20:33:28
August 05 2010 20:32 GMT
#17
On August 06 2010 01:47 travis wrote:
dts suck so bad vs terran lol

if they go 1/1/1 you're instantly dead

if they scout ur dt tech (which they have a million ways to do) they are going to own you

if they wall in it won't do shit

and there's about a million other things that can go wrong



of course this is all assuming you're playing decent players.


"DT's suck lol!!!!!1111!!1"

Yeah DT's are useless even in the hands of a good player. NOT.

Just because they go 1/1/1 does not mean they will get a raven ASAPLY

Terran can scount tech just as easily (more easily) then protoss, seeing as how you only need a rax for scan (OC) while observers are much higher up the tech tree.

If they wall you send individual DT's to harass, he does not have infinite scans.

What are the million other things that can go wrong? (by wrong do you mean outplayed?)

Your argument is invalid, I have nachos.
Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
August 05 2010 21:59 GMT
#18
have you ever heard that

"be optimistic"

a terran cant always expect the worse things to happen

we cant always expect carriers and DT's , we prefer to believe that they are exceptions
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 05 2010 23:02 GMT
#19
On August 06 2010 05:32 TadH wrote:
"DT's suck lol!!!!!1111!!1"

Yeah DT's are useless even in the hands of a good player. NOT.

Just because they go 1/1/1 does not mean they will get a raven ASAPLY

Terran can scount tech just as easily (more easily) then protoss, seeing as how you only need a rax for scan (OC) while observers are much higher up the tech tree.

If they wall you send individual DT's to harass, he does not have infinite scans.

What are the million other things that can go wrong? (by wrong do you mean outplayed?)

Your argument is invalid, I have nachos.

Raven, Banshee, and Viking are really the only 3 air units he's going to get first. He's not going to get a viking first if you don't go Stargate, and if he goes Banshee, he'll be killing your probes before you even break down his wall.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 05 2010 23:09 GMT
#20
eh plat is a joke i skipped the campaign completely and went straight to multiplayer not knowing what any units did, ive played 12 games and im already top of my plat league with 400 pts or whatever.

P.S. how do you get into diamond anyway? tired of playing bads
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