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haha, ranked 300 in north america, zero TvP games

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luckySe7en
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
148 Posts
July 31 2010 14:18 GMT
#1
so i've played a total of about 60 games or so by now, with a win rate of about 65% i think. ranking is 300 in all of north america. and i have yet to play a TvP. I've only had a few TvT games too (i hate mirror matchups, so i just go fast reaper, so fast, i don't even make any supply depot. first reaper in his base before his first marine pops, or thor dropping lol.)

but most my games have been in TvZ, like, ,literally 80% or more. i guess that's why i'm doing so well, cause i'm literally playing only TvZ, and improving 3x as fast as if my matches were more well-rounded.

but ya. my TvZ is badass now. getting to the point where i know exactly what they are going to throw at me. reasons why i lose are now about whether i time things correctly, or if i do stupid shit that i obviously shouldn't be doing. but no more stuff happens like stuff i haven't seen before and just get steamrolled. you know?

i have seen one pretty unique strategy of mass infestor on metalopolis. eventually, zerg was going mass ulta+infestor+zerglings vs my turtle mech. but still, not something that's totally crazy like when i first started playing and baneling busts gave me rage.

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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
July 31 2010 14:23 GMT
#2
Knowing exactly what they gonna do is pretty much very very basic level, apparently that is enough to get top 300 this early in the game ^^

glhf keep improving
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 14:29:01
July 31 2010 14:26 GMT
#3
On July 31 2010 23:18 luckySe7en wrote:
so i've played a total of about 60 games or so by now, with a win rate of about 65% i think. ranking is 300 in all of north america. and i have yet to play a TvP. I've only had a few TvT games too (i hate mirror matchups, so i just go fast reaper, so fast, i don't even make any supply depot. first reaper in his base before his first marine pops, or thor dropping lol.)

but most my games have been in TvZ, like, ,literally 80% or more. i guess that's why i'm doing so well, cause i'm literally playing only TvZ, and improving 3x as fast as if my matches were more well-rounded.

but ya. my TvZ is badass now. getting to the point where i know exactly what they are going to throw at me. reasons why i lose are now about whether i time things correctly, or if i do stupid shit that i obviously shouldn't be doing. but no more stuff happens like stuff i haven't seen before and just get steamrolled. you know?

i have seen one pretty unique strategy of mass infestor on metalopolis. eventually, zerg was going mass ulta+infestor+zerglings vs my turtle mech. but still, not something that's totally crazy like when i first started playing and baneling busts gave me rage.



what exactly are you trying to say in that post?

what i can extract from it:

i have terrible tvt
i think my tvz is good because i win low ranking games
since the ladder system is being kind to me, im in a place i do not belong
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 31 2010 14:28 GMT
#4
On July 31 2010 23:26 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 23:18 luckySe7en wrote:
so i've played a total of about 60 games or so by now, with a win rate of about 65% i think. ranking is 300 in all of north america. and i have yet to play a TvP. I've only had a few TvT games too (i hate mirror matchups, so i just go fast reaper, so fast, i don't even make any supply depot. first reaper in his base before his first marine pops, or thor dropping lol.)

but most my games have been in TvZ, like, ,literally 80% or more. i guess that's why i'm doing so well, cause i'm literally playing only TvZ, and improving 3x as fast as if my matches were more well-rounded.

but ya. my TvZ is badass now. getting to the point where i know exactly what they are going to throw at me. reasons why i lose are now about whether i time things correctly, or if i do stupid shit that i obviously shouldn't be doing. but no more stuff happens like stuff i haven't seen before and just get steamrolled. you know?

i have seen one pretty unique strategy of mass infestor on metalopolis. eventually, zerg was going mass ulta+infestor+zerglings vs my turtle mech. but still, not something that's totally crazy like when i first started playing and baneling busts gave me rage.



what exactly are you trying to say in that post?

what i can extract from it:

i have terrible tvt
i think my tvz is good because i win low ranking games

I don't really understand this blog post either...
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
July 31 2010 14:33 GMT
#5
On July 31 2010 23:28 sLiniss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 23:26 ramen247 wrote:
On July 31 2010 23:18 luckySe7en wrote:
so i've played a total of about 60 games or so by now, with a win rate of about 65% i think. ranking is 300 in all of north america. and i have yet to play a TvP. I've only had a few TvT games too (i hate mirror matchups, so i just go fast reaper, so fast, i don't even make any supply depot. first reaper in his base before his first marine pops, or thor dropping lol.)

but most my games have been in TvZ, like, ,literally 80% or more. i guess that's why i'm doing so well, cause i'm literally playing only TvZ, and improving 3x as fast as if my matches were more well-rounded.

but ya. my TvZ is badass now. getting to the point where i know exactly what they are going to throw at me. reasons why i lose are now about whether i time things correctly, or if i do stupid shit that i obviously shouldn't be doing. but no more stuff happens like stuff i haven't seen before and just get steamrolled. you know?

i have seen one pretty unique strategy of mass infestor on metalopolis. eventually, zerg was going mass ulta+infestor+zerglings vs my turtle mech. but still, not something that's totally crazy like when i first started playing and baneling busts gave me rage.



what exactly are you trying to say in that post?

what i can extract from it:

i have terrible tvt
i think my tvz is good because i win low ranking games

I don't really understand this blog post either...


there's nothing to understand, he's bragging, which he has every right to do
manner
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
July 31 2010 14:35 GMT
#6
Well, if he's actually played 60 games without meeting a Protoss I'd think that that's pretty notable.
Nugget
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 14:38:54
July 31 2010 14:38 GMT
#7
On July 31 2010 23:28 sLiniss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 23:26 ramen247 wrote:
On July 31 2010 23:18 luckySe7en wrote:
so i've played a total of about 60 games or so by now, with a win rate of about 65% i think. ranking is 300 in all of north america. and i have yet to play a TvP. I've only had a few TvT games too (i hate mirror matchups, so i just go fast reaper, so fast, i don't even make any supply depot. first reaper in his base before his first marine pops, or thor dropping lol.)

but most my games have been in TvZ, like, ,literally 80% or more. i guess that's why i'm doing so well, cause i'm literally playing only TvZ, and improving 3x as fast as if my matches were more well-rounded.

but ya. my TvZ is badass now. getting to the point where i know exactly what they are going to throw at me. reasons why i lose are now about whether i time things correctly, or if i do stupid shit that i obviously shouldn't be doing. but no more stuff happens like stuff i haven't seen before and just get steamrolled. you know?

i have seen one pretty unique strategy of mass infestor on metalopolis. eventually, zerg was going mass ulta+infestor+zerglings vs my turtle mech. but still, not something that's totally crazy like when i first started playing and baneling busts gave me rage.



what exactly are you trying to say in that post?

what i can extract from it:

i have terrible tvt
i think my tvz is good because i win low ranking games

I don't really understand this blog post either...


I think the point of the post was more to point out how many TvZ he's getting in comparison to the other match ups, how in a result of this his TvZ is improving at a much faster rate then the other 2 match ups. If this keeps happening i think the best thing you could do to keep your rank is to find practice partners for TvP and TvT else when the races even out you will get a big drop in rank due to your TvP and TvT not being so good.
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 14:39:14
July 31 2010 14:39 GMT
#8
60 games played and havn't met a protoss yet, that's kinda odd. Keep track of how many games you play before you meet a protoss and edit your post please, would be kinda funny to know. ;>
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
luckySe7en
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
148 Posts
July 31 2010 14:41 GMT
#9
On July 31 2010 23:38 Nugget wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 23:28 sLiniss wrote:
On July 31 2010 23:26 ramen247 wrote:
On July 31 2010 23:18 luckySe7en wrote:
so i've played a total of about 60 games or so by now, with a win rate of about 65% i think. ranking is 300 in all of north america. and i have yet to play a TvP. I've only had a few TvT games too (i hate mirror matchups, so i just go fast reaper, so fast, i don't even make any supply depot. first reaper in his base before his first marine pops, or thor dropping lol.)

but most my games have been in TvZ, like, ,literally 80% or more. i guess that's why i'm doing so well, cause i'm literally playing only TvZ, and improving 3x as fast as if my matches were more well-rounded.

but ya. my TvZ is badass now. getting to the point where i know exactly what they are going to throw at me. reasons why i lose are now about whether i time things correctly, or if i do stupid shit that i obviously shouldn't be doing. but no more stuff happens like stuff i haven't seen before and just get steamrolled. you know?

i have seen one pretty unique strategy of mass infestor on metalopolis. eventually, zerg was going mass ulta+infestor+zerglings vs my turtle mech. but still, not something that's totally crazy like when i first started playing and baneling busts gave me rage.



what exactly are you trying to say in that post?

what i can extract from it:

i have terrible tvt
i think my tvz is good because i win low ranking games

I don't really understand this blog post either...


I think the point of the post was more to point out how many TvZ he's getting in comparison to the other match ups, how in a result of this his TvZ is improving at a much faster rate then the other 2 match ups. If this keeps happening i think the best thing you could do to keep your rank is to find practice partners for TvP and TvT else when the races even out you will get a big drop in rank due to your TvP and TvT not being so good.



ya, pretty much.

med school orientation starts tomorrow. i've been meaning to get into at least diamond before school starts. but then i get lucky with shit like this, end up with almost all TvZ games, and doing well enough to show up on that NA ranking list. yay =)

i think mission succesful. i'm not going to play anymore cause if i meet anyone in a TvP, maybe i'll do ok by adding some ghosts in, but honestly, i have not played almost any TvP, i don't know what their "tricks" are. man, when i first started with tvz, baneling bust gave me rage. thinking of having to deal with all that again, except in TvP? no fucking way.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
July 31 2010 14:45 GMT
#10
yeah... TVZ is imba~~
luckySe7en
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
148 Posts
July 31 2010 15:20 GMT
#11
On July 31 2010 23:45 nttea wrote:
yeah... TVZ is imba~~


no, it's not. Z just needs to abuse some things more. even at the top 300 people level, i don't see this happening very often, and it needs to:

when u get to lair, spawn creep at my expos so i can't take expos

when you get lair, spawn creep with overlord in corner of ur base for secret tech. it's so annoying for terran to scout. zerg has map control. it's sooo hard for terran to scout stuff.

use ur second hatchery to upgrade to lair, not ur first one. u know, every scan that terran uses is equivalent of 280 minerals wasted.

a few games, the zergs spread out all their key structures around their bases and creep. this is so annoying.

so anyways, let's recap:

terran advantages:
- good at turtling
- secret tech early game forces zerg to sacrifice an overlord or something
- strong units

zerg advantages:
- complete map control
- secret tech better than terran can
- if u are not at least 20 population higher than terran, then you suck and deserve to lose. common, you need to abuse your drone hoarding more.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 31 2010 15:22 GMT
#12
On July 31 2010 23:45 nttea wrote:
yeah... TVZ is imba~~


*sigh* Simple statements like this start lots of nerdrage fests about balance.

Good job with being the top 300.....I think? If you haven't played Protoss yet, you'll never really know I guess...
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
July 31 2010 15:54 GMT
#13
LOL yourent a strong player since you win just on Reapers in TvT. also Terran is very strong at the moment.
i dunno lol
Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
July 31 2010 16:54 GMT
#14
On August 01 2010 00:54 OPSavioR wrote:
LOL yourent a strong player since you win just on Reapers in TvT. also Terran is very strong at the moment.


Did you even read his post? His TvT record was just an aside, that he didn't like mirror matchups (considering how dull TvT in particular is to a lot of people that's not surprising), and so he tried to end it as fast as possible.

The main point was that he's never played a TvP (pretty astonishing, really) and so has gotten tons of experience playing TvZ.

My personal theory: Dustin Browder has decided this guy is going to be a TvZ "sniper" in the future... or just for kicks.

"Sir, he's reached top 300, should we let him get some TvP's now?"

"No; we'll let him reach the top ten and then give him 100% TvP's then laugh like nuts."

"Ooh, brilliant sir!"
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sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 31 2010 17:49 GMT
#15
On August 01 2010 00:20 luckySe7en wrote:
u know, every scan that terran uses is equivalent of 280 minerals wasted.

no not really
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 17:51:12
July 31 2010 17:49 GMT
#16
Whats the point of this blog? I don't understand the thought process behind making a blog that has some bad subtle ego, and gives absolutely no meaningful information. If you're going to ego, do it right...

EDIT: You also have no idea what you're talking about TvZ so just stop. Fun read though I won't lie =D
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 31 2010 17:51 GMT
#17
Your nick is very appropriate.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 31 2010 18:32 GMT
#18
On August 01 2010 02:49 sLiniss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 00:20 luckySe7en wrote:
u know, every scan that terran uses is equivalent of 280 minerals wasted.

no not really


Well the terran still would get the 280 minerals I guess later on if he was going to mine out his main anyway, but the mule mines approx 280 minerals before it goes poof.

Where are the NA leaderboards anyway? I want to see my global ranking too
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
July 31 2010 19:17 GMT
#19
I've played like 3 ZvT's, 2 ZvZ's and like 10 ZvP's. I feel your pain. Protoss 2 gate every single fucking match, so annoying.
srsly
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
July 31 2010 19:20 GMT
#20
On July 31 2010 23:45 nttea wrote:
yeah... TVZ is imba~~


Terran mech? No problem, meet my ultralisks.
srsly
DISHU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom348 Posts
July 31 2010 19:26 GMT
#21
no 4 gates !!
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
July 31 2010 22:54 GMT
#22
how do u know how u rank in whole of north america?
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7231 Posts
July 31 2010 23:42 GMT
#23
On August 01 2010 07:54 Sfydjklm wrote:
how do u know how u rank in whole of north america?



ya wtf
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
August 01 2010 02:30 GMT
#24
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