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exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
July 20 2010 12:12 GMT
#1
So i watched proleague SKT VS CJ ENTUS today. Then after the game this appeared in the stream:

And spoiler may follow so please be advised:


This picture
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Is showing how proleague is but i dont understand how it works. So can someone tell me what is going on, in that picture. We know the result of todays games and who will play vs who in the future?

Thx to someone who can clarify whats going on.

And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 20 2010 12:14 GMT
#2
Winners of today's matches play each other.
Winner of that plays STX.
Winner of vs STX plays KT.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
July 20 2010 12:14 GMT
#3
SKT vs CJ winner faces off against MBC vs WeMade winner.

The winner of that encounter faces off against #2, STX.

Winner of that faces #1, KT.
POGGERS
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#4
On July 20 2010 21:14 Southlight wrote:
Winners of today's matches play each other. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of that plays STX. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of vs STX plays KT. in 3 matches each being a Bo7

Fixed
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exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#5
But why is KT and STX already up there? That is confusing.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 20 2010 12:17 GMT
#6
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=75489#PLcmd02
That link would probably be helpful, it's a link to the Ultimate Progaming FAQ.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
July 20 2010 12:17 GMT
#7
because they won the most games during the regular season
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 12:19:18
July 20 2010 12:18 GMT
#8
+ Show Spoiler +

SKT plays winner of Hero/Fox
Winner plays STX
Winner plays KT

That is all. It's called a "bracket" and is popular with American college basketball fans sometime after winter.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51549 Posts
July 20 2010 12:22 GMT
#9
On July 20 2010 21:15 kOre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:14 Southlight wrote:
Winners of today's matches play each other. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of that plays STX. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of vs STX plays KT. in 3 matches each being a Bo7

Fixed


Actually the finals at Gwangahlli is only Bo1.
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exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 12:36:58
July 20 2010 12:32 GMT
#10
Ok so can u confirm that it works like this
[image loading]
Where 1 black line is a team and a red circle is 1 step closer to the finals

edit:
Oh i mean like this:

[image loading]
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Rio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
July 20 2010 12:37 GMT
#11
On July 20 2010 21:15 exeexe wrote:
But why is KT and STX already up there? That is confusing.

They # 1 and 2 rank in PL
What ever ---------------------------------------------------™
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9793 Posts
July 20 2010 12:40 GMT
#12
On July 20 2010 21:22 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:15 kOre wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:14 Southlight wrote:
Winners of today's matches play each other. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of that plays STX. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of vs STX plays KT. in 3 matches each being a Bo7

Fixed


Actually the finals at Gwangahlli is only Bo1.

you mean 1 Bo7 right? because a single Bo1 is kinda...

oh well. BISU > FLASH
boomer hands
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 20 2010 12:44 GMT
#13
I dont know why you added the black lines, the text is in the schema is self explanatory.
Yes you got it right.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 20 2010 12:49 GMT
#14
wish they'd just do the simple KT vs winner of WeMade/MBC and + Show Spoiler +
SKT
vs STX like american football with the wildcard round lol
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 12:56:12
July 20 2010 12:54 GMT
#15
bill why would you wish that?

On July 20 2010 21:44 endy wrote:
I dont know why you added the black lines, the text is in the schema is self explanatory.
Yes you got it right.


Because i dont like it when something is only explained with text. Its a personal preference.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 20 2010 13:24 GMT
#16
On July 20 2010 21:40 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:22 GTR wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:15 kOre wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:14 Southlight wrote:
Winners of today's matches play each other. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of that plays STX. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of vs STX plays KT. in 3 matches each being a Bo7

Fixed


Actually the finals at Gwangahlli is only Bo1.

you mean 1 Bo7 right? because a single Bo1 is kinda...

oh well. BISU > FLASH

Lol, tb that'd be hilarious. "Sup everyone, thanks for coming, lets get this one match out of the way." (Ok, no, it'd be depressing. I want to see more sc finals)
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 20 2010 13:36 GMT
#17
Man, those were some great games...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 20 2010 14:03 GMT
#18
On July 20 2010 21:40 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:22 GTR wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:15 kOre wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:14 Southlight wrote:
Winners of today's matches play each other. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of that plays STX. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of vs STX plays KT. in 3 matches each being a Bo7

Fixed


Actually the finals at Gwangahlli is only Bo1.

you mean 1 Bo7 right? because a single Bo1 is kinda...

oh well. BISU > FLASH

yeah, pretty much yes?)

Damn if they did a surprise (even KT and the winner weren't even informed) Bo1 I bet people will rage so hard.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
July 20 2010 15:30 GMT
#19
On July 20 2010 23:03 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:40 seRapH wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:22 GTR wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:15 kOre wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:14 Southlight wrote:
Winners of today's matches play each other. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of that plays STX. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of vs STX plays KT. in 3 matches each being a Bo7

Fixed


Actually the finals at Gwangahlli is only Bo1.

you mean 1 Bo7 right? because a single Bo1 is kinda...

oh well. BISU > FLASH

yeah, pretty much yes?)

Damn if they did a surprise (even KT and the winner weren't even informed) Bo1 I bet people will rage so hard.


stats will come out and pawn bisu with his sublime pvp.

Nah im just joking(since i don't even know stats pvp stats LOL), since hwaseung aint in i dunno who to support though. Just want to see some good matches.
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
July 20 2010 15:44 GMT
#20
I managed to post in this box without spoiling myself!
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 20 2010 16:09 GMT
#21
On July 21 2010 00:30 streamofhonour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 23:03 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:40 seRapH wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:22 GTR wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:15 kOre wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:14 Southlight wrote:
Winners of today's matches play each other. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of that plays STX. in 3 matches each being a Bo7
Winner of vs STX plays KT. in 3 matches each being a Bo7

Fixed


Actually the finals at Gwangahlli is only Bo1.

you mean 1 Bo7 right? because a single Bo1 is kinda...

oh well. BISU > FLASH

yeah, pretty much yes?)

Damn if they did a surprise (even KT and the winner weren't even informed) Bo1 I bet people will rage so hard.


stats will come out and pawn bisu with his sublime pvp.

Nah im just joking(since i don't even know stats pvp stats LOL), since hwaseung aint in i dunno who to support though. Just want to see some good matches.

Join the Bisu's bandwagon
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
July 20 2010 20:26 GMT
#22
thats kinda stupid if you ask me. why does KT get an Automatic placement in finals? i understand that they earned it, but that seems like too big of a reward for being first.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
July 20 2010 20:47 GMT
#23
On July 21 2010 05:26 Rkie wrote:
thats kinda stupid if you ask me. why does KT get an Automatic placement in finals? i understand that they earned it, but that seems like too big of a reward for being first.


They played the best for a whole YEAR...
Jaedong :3
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 20 2010 21:44 GMT
#24
On July 21 2010 05:26 Rkie wrote:
thats kinda stupid if you ask me. why does KT get an Automatic placement in finals? i understand that they earned it, but that seems like too big of a reward for being first.


Try telling that to them....

They've been at the top of the pack after then end of almost an entire year week in week out almost every night with only about 2 weeks off. Sounds about right to me. They are still going to have to play the team that may have beat up to 3 other teams in the finals . not easy.
Each day gets better : )
ClanOverdosed
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
691 Posts
July 20 2010 21:53 GMT
#25
On July 21 2010 06:44 ella_guru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 05:26 Rkie wrote:
thats kinda stupid if you ask me. why does KT get an Automatic placement in finals? i understand that they earned it, but that seems like too big of a reward for being first.


Try telling that to them....

They've been at the top of the pack after then end of almost an entire year week in week out almost every night with only about 2 weeks off. Sounds about right to me. They are still going to have to play the team that may have beat up to 3 other teams in the finals . not easy.


I don't know, I figure the reward should be a game against the lowest seeded opponent like in most tournaments. At least this way fans can see them play more.
Overdosed--www.overdosed.net
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 21 2010 02:03 GMT
#26
On July 21 2010 06:53 Beloth(OD) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 06:44 ella_guru wrote:
On July 21 2010 05:26 Rkie wrote:
thats kinda stupid if you ask me. why does KT get an Automatic placement in finals? i understand that they earned it, but that seems like too big of a reward for being first.


Try telling that to them....

They've been at the top of the pack after then end of almost an entire year week in week out almost every night with only about 2 weeks off. Sounds about right to me. They are still going to have to play the team that may have beat up to 3 other teams in the finals . not easy.


I don't know, I figure the reward should be a game against the lowest seeded opponent like in most tournaments. At least this way fans can see them play more.


Not necessarily, SKT was 3rd and had to play vs CJ who was 6th. CJ is atm the toughest opponent for SKT.
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 21 2010 02:14 GMT
#27
Random slumping or beasting during the regular season is unpredictable and unavoidable. I agree that being in first place during the regular season should just allow them direct seed into the semifinals against the weaker team rather than seeding directly into the grand finals. If you think about, the non-seeded teams have to play a maximum of 21*3 + 7 = 70 possible matches in order to win while the grand finals seed only has to play a maximum of 7. It's practically impossible for the lower ranked teams to compete in this format -_- it's really rather dumb.

I would much prefer a format like
1 vs. (4 vs. 5)
2 vs. (3 vs. 6)
to form the finals. :|
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 21 2010 02:56 GMT
#28
On July 21 2010 11:14 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Random slumping or beasting during the regular season is unpredictable and unavoidable. I agree that being in first place during the regular season should just allow them direct seed into the semifinals against the weaker team rather than seeding directly into the grand finals. If you think about, the non-seeded teams have to play a maximum of 21*3 + 7 = 70 possible matches in order to win while the grand finals seed only has to play a maximum of 7. It's practically impossible for the lower ranked teams to compete in this format -_- it's really rather dumb.

I would much prefer a format like
1 vs. (4 vs. 5)
2 vs. (3 vs. 6)
to form the finals. :|


With this format, KT who raped this year's proleague would not have the advantage they definitely deserve over STX
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 21 2010 04:28 GMT
#29
On July 21 2010 11:56 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 11:14 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Random slumping or beasting during the regular season is unpredictable and unavoidable. I agree that being in first place during the regular season should just allow them direct seed into the semifinals against the weaker team rather than seeding directly into the grand finals. If you think about, the non-seeded teams have to play a maximum of 21*3 + 7 = 70 possible matches in order to win while the grand finals seed only has to play a maximum of 7. It's practically impossible for the lower ranked teams to compete in this format -_- it's really rather dumb.

I would much prefer a format like
1 vs. (4 vs. 5)
2 vs. (3 vs. 6)
to form the finals. :|


With this format, KT who raped this year's proleague would not have the advantage they definitely deserve over STX

Give KT a bonus which enables Flash to play all the games for them.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
VivaLaRevolutionist
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia2 Posts
July 21 2010 05:00 GMT
#30
I think the idea of playoffs is to add the possibility of drama and spectacle to the end of a season. Sure, KT has been the best team all season, and if the powers that be wanted to judge it that way, then they would leave it as a top of the table format, like in the English PL. Having chosen the playoff format, I think it would be far more interesting for everyone if KT and STX played more games, and had to earn their spot in the finals in a pressure environment. Possibly seeing arguably the best broodwar player in the world only once in the whole proleague playoff season...it seems absurd. I like Kyuukyuu's idea where the top 2 get a bye through the first round. It's a good mix of reward for the top teams, and theatre for the spectators.
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