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[VIDEO] Blizzard sucks, and TL moderation NAZIs??

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LittleMikeStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 17 2010 23:10 GMT
#1
This is another video blog for your guys-- because well, I suck at typing. Feel free to check it out.

And-- if you watch it-- and you think its a waste of time. Then.. well.. you can always write a response and waste mine. Peace.


[VIDEO] Blizzard sucks, and TL moderation NAZI's



***Serious props to all those guys keeping everything in line.

*
10% of the time, I am awesome.
Atom Cannister
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany380 Posts
July 17 2010 23:16 GMT
#2
You again...
...
LittleMikeStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 17 2010 23:19 GMT
#3
Yeah me again-- welcome to my blog. Again.
10% of the time, I am awesome.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
July 17 2010 23:23 GMT
#4
Just a heads up, blizzard tried to make realid for korean purposes. Korean law requires real ID when posting in forums.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 17 2010 23:27 GMT
#5
On July 18 2010 08:23 naonao wrote:
Just a heads up, blizzard tried to make realid for korean purposes. Korean law requires real ID when posting in forums.


lol

Trying to attract the Koreans to the Blizzard forums? Don't know how that would work out!

Otherwise, I think that strict moderation has always been a cornerstone to any good forum, especially one that's popular like TL. The problem is that when you have an even bigger community in terms of Blizzard, that has players from WoW, WCIII, and SC, it becomes infinitely harder to manage such a large community.

I think the blame definitely goes to poor moderation, but you also have to consider how much spam a human can handle before calling it a night.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 23:28:01
July 17 2010 23:27 GMT
#6
Just a heads up, blizzard tried to make realid for korean purposes. Korean law requires real ID when posting in forums.


Until they realise that foreigners are using KSSN generators and proxies. Real ID is a joke.
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
July 17 2010 23:28 GMT
#7
On July 18 2010 08:23 naonao wrote:
Just a heads up, blizzard tried to make realid for korean purposes. Korean law requires real ID when posting in forums.


Korean law does not apply to the following countries:
  • Canada
  • United States
  • France
  • Itality
  • Germany
  • Russia
  • Country which is not called Korea
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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 23:34:17
July 17 2010 23:31 GMT
#8
Errr umm. Blizzard does have moderators, the problem is that we (the trolls) have unlimited keys and accounts (not on the new forums unfortunately).

There's no point in comparing the forums because they provide two different things.

If I want to post something trollish, silly or just anything random I want, I will post on Bnet forums, or bodybuilding.com forums, or somewhere else.

If I want to post about Starcraft, or have semi-intelligent discussion, I will post here. I see no reason why the forums need to overlap and all be the same. What's wrong with the bnet forums NOT being TeamLiquid? I mean is there really that much to talk about Starcraft on the Bnet forums? Are we going to talk about the campaign levels dozens of times and have the same discussions on the same things day in and day out? If you want a level of moderation and discussion between the bnet forums and TeamLiquid there are lots of quality sites:

GosuGamers
GameFaqs
NeoGaf

Bnet forums have a charm that I like.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 17 2010 23:34 GMT
#9
^

That's actually pretty convincing. B.net provides for random shit that you can't get away with here....and TL lets you talk to people that have more than half a brain without being drowned by spam....

Cool.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
July 17 2010 23:35 GMT
#10
You summed up your point pretty accurately in the end of the video, lol. I never visit bnet or bnet forums so obviously i dont care at all. For me, bnet forums have always been a shithole and will continue to be so. I have TL.net and thats all i need
LittleMikeStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 17 2010 23:36 GMT
#11
On July 18 2010 08:28 TossFloss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 08:23 naonao wrote:
Just a heads up, blizzard tried to make realid for korean purposes. Korean law requires real ID when posting in forums.


Korean law does not apply to the following countries:
  • Canada
  • United States
  • France
  • Itality
  • Germany
  • Russia
  • Country which is not called Korea


I wasn't aware of the fact that Korean law required real ID. I find that very crazy. Korea is crazy-- but then again-- it explains why my Korean friend, who is a full grown man, was reduced to tears when the government tried to deport him back to Korea. ** He is still here with us, if you're wondering.

But like TossFloss wrote-- its silly to apply them to every other person in the world. I actually LOL'd at his post.
10% of the time, I am awesome.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 23:52:54
July 17 2010 23:40 GMT
#12
you again....love the rage ^___^...lawl at being approached by 2 mods already @ 17 posts...hard to do
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 17 2010 23:47 GMT
#13
I have to say that as a first time viewer, I was very impressed with the video and I think you express your ideas rather clearly. I was entertained, and really enjoyed watching it.

Pineapple dumptruck!

Anyways on topic, I think some of your points are very legit. On one end of the spectrum, you've got Blizzard forums and on the other end you have Teamliquid forums. Very minimal moderation to Very strict moderation. However, from my perspective, as the community grows, the tight moderation only serves to help the community better. As you said and you've learned from, pointless +1 posts and dumb image macros are disallowed simply because they don't add anything to the conversation.

If TL were loosely moderated like BNet forums, god knows what it would turn into. Might be another recreation of 4chan. But at the same time, tight moderation on TL can possibly discourage some posters from posting. As you said, some posters might be very timid, very shy, and feel like it's too hard to post here without making a mistake or two.

From my point of view, I think while TL is doing a great job of moderation, I fear that some newcomers might find it hard to post here simply because of the intimidation factor. Newbie mistakes aren't really tolerated here, but for some kids, they really just might be some newbie who's trying to find something out here on TL only to get shut down immediately.
God Bless
Neoshan
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany49 Posts
July 17 2010 23:52 GMT
#14
yay mike heres your favorite comment-poster from utube ...

well the biggest problem of the blizzard bnet forums is that its actually a company. And a company need to hire people to moderate and do stuff. And also they have a redonculous amount of forum members...

Here comes in the huge advantage of community driven sites and forums... they can easily pick volunteers or other people they maybe partly know from real life and say "hey if you spare some free time you can make our forums a bit better and stuff"

so theres my part on this seeyaaa dudes
If you want to wander around aimlessly, follow the mass
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 17 2010 23:54 GMT
#15
Good video I enjoyed it!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 17 2010 23:57 GMT
#16
Good video. Blizzard's been weird lately.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#17
On July 18 2010 08:47 Roffles wrote:
From my point of view, I think while TL is doing a great job of moderation, I fear that some newcomers might find it hard to post here simply because of the intimidation factor. Newbie mistakes aren't really tolerated here, but for some kids, they really just might be some newbie who's trying to find something out here on TL only to get shut down immediately.


I don't think this is a huge issue. Any smart newcomer to a forum will lurk the forum. After lurking for a little while, it isn't that hard to make a post. Its not like you have to have perfect grammar or formatting, you just need to not be dumb and provide evidence if you have a claim.

If you never lurked the site, sure, you should be scared to post and you shouldn't anyway unless it is a simple reply. And those noobs who do get shot down deserve to because they probably didn't search or make a quality post.

Personally, I think they need to lay down an iron fist on the SC2 forums. I see too many threads without replay evidence. Replay evidence is key and it not that difficult to do. You normally experienced something in game to warrant a thread anyway, so you could just save a replay and upload it. It isn't difficult, but people are really eager to post and too lazy for replays. That should be punished.

About the vlog: Yeah, Blizzard forums suck and need moderation. But they have a HUGE userbase and they need to pay moderators. It isn't much to ask because I'm sure Blizzard is swimming in cash, but they're too money hungry so they won't. It sucks, but what can you do?
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 00:08:11
July 18 2010 00:07 GMT
#18
I can't watch that with the jumping, so I just listened to it. I liked the content, however, I think there needs to be a place for spam. For every TL there needs to be a bnet or ggnet so people who get banned from the good society have somewhere to go and associate with their kind. Some forums are needed to just let people thoerycraft to their hearts content and have people go, "yeah! good idea, I'm gonna try that on ladder."
LittleMikeStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 18 2010 00:20 GMT
#19
@count9

The more I listen to posts like yours, and the rest of the TL members. The more I agree with you.

It is hard to assume that everyone who plays Starcraft has something useful to say in the first place. I appreciate the moderators in this forum. I am glad to have found it after so many years of playing Broodwar.

However-- I do believe that as a major company, and gaming benchmark Blizzard needs to control the way their forum is run. I logged on the other day, and found 82 threads by the same poster, all with the same title.

It turns the forum where people can theory craft, and hang out-- and be newbs.. into a place where spam, and douche-baggery brings down the overall appeal of getting to know your fellow players.

Even an older, more mature player who is new to Starcraft will goto these forums first in search of companionship within the game.. and I think the bar needs to be raised. Even to just an acceptable level for the overall expereience to be enjoyable overall.

@ Djzapz
@ Plexa
@ Neoshan
@ Roffles
@ Unit

Thanks for the feedback, and the comments.. I do really appreciate it. <3
10% of the time, I am awesome.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 00:27:24
July 18 2010 00:26 GMT
#20
On July 18 2010 08:23 naonao wrote:
Just a heads up, blizzard tried to make realid for korean purposes. Korean law requires real ID when posting in forums.


dude, just because someone theorized it doesn't make it true!

btw, this logic doesn't even make sense. north americans don't live in korea. debunked. the end.
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