This movie totally sucks, major plot holes, annoying pussy boy character, things not explained, worst ending I've ever seen.
So, let's get the plot out of the way first for those who are curious: A man and a boy are in an unknown post apocalyptic wasteland struggling to survive and heading south for some reason. Man keeps having flashbacks of his crazy wife.+ Show Spoiler [plot-ending] +
Many close calls with cannibals/randoms happen, man dies from unknown condition/wife suicides and boy meets random stranger/family. Nothing changes, boy is arguably worse off. The End.
Ok, so the only part of the movie that actually meant anything to me was how completely fucked up the father was to this black vagrant. (some kind of tough love thing to prove to his son). This is not a plot spoiler (if there is even a plot?) + Show Spoiler [fucked up scene] +
Basically what happens is the black man is following them trying to find an opportunity to steal their shit. He does, takes all the supplies and food and leaves the boy unharmed with his gun. Somehow they catch back up to this guy pulling the cart of shit and the father forces him at gunpoint to give back all the shit. Then he proceeds to make the man strip down to nothing (not even socks), the man begs and pleads (on the verge of tears). The father says "I'm going to leave you how you left us, with nothin" (exaggerated ofc) takes his clothes and knife and carts away with his boy. The man is left standing there half keeled over, freezing, and he everyone knows this man is worse off than dead. PS- this is not long after they find a cellar full of people who are starving and being kept hostage to inevitable be eaten. They find these people and lock them back in.
I have been looking but I can not find a clip of this scene anywhere. If someone knows one is, or wants to upload it to YT please do.
Ignoring the length and pseudo review of this movie, I actually wanted people to share about the most fucked up non-violent scenes in film that they have seen.
David Lynch should be appearing in this thread many times, so I'll start one off.
Inland Empire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460829/ I admit that I can't think of any one particular scene that is the "most" fucked up, since the whole movie is just one big cluster fuck of fucked up. I'll have to pick the scene that made a friend I watching it with say how freaked out he was (lol).
arg i can't find the scene, but i'll post a couple scenes from the movie anyway.
omgomg RABBITS
It was the scene where the protagonist woman and the guy she's shooting a film with who she's having a real life affair with are having sex and during the middle of it, while under the covers, she starts asking the guy "is that you, John (or whatever the name was of his character in the movie they were starring in". At this point he gets a bit confused and she gets a bit frantic and continues to refer to him by the person in the movie rather than his real life name. At this point the guy himself starts to "snap out of it", if you will, and it just gets weird. Anyways, it doesn't sound that interesting the way I've written it, but I assure you it's really "fucked up". David Lynch has a way of making the viewer feel really uncomfortable to a surreal extreme, the scene I described features an oft used theme by the director, blurring the lines between fiction and reality; think Requiem for a Dream, add Tim Burton from hell and magnify times 100.
i thought The Road was pretty good, as depressing as it was, although i agree the ending was pretty meh.
nothing beats inland empire for pure fucked up stuff. NOTHING. amazingly i managed to see that movie about 3 times. The bit where the main character is walking in the distance and slowly getting closer to the camera in darkness then suddenly it shows her face and it looks really fucked up scared the hell out of me.
That movie is like 1 really bad nightmare. Good movie though.
Edit: also Tetsuo The Iron Man is pretty fucked up.
Another disturbing/fucked up moment in film (although it is using violence/gore) that left me rattled for a few days was the scene in Hannibal where Ray Liotta's character is drugged and gets lobotomized right at the table. and Hopkins character proceeds to saute it right there and feed it to Ray Liotta. This was njust as disturbing as jar squatter or BME pain olympics for me.
On July 02 2010 13:48 CharlieMurphy wrote: Another disturbing/fucked up moment in film (although it is using violence/gore) that left me rattled for a few days was the scene in Hannibal where Ray Liotta's character is drugged and gets lobotomized right at the table. and Hopkins character proceeds to saute it right there and feed it to Ray Liotta. This was njust as disturbing as jar squatter or BME pain olympics for me.
That scene made me laugh out loud because of how absurd it was.
This movie totally sucks, major plot holes, annoying pussy boy character, things not explained, worst ending I've ever seen.
So, let's get the plot out of the way first for those who are curious: A man and a boy are in an unknown post apocalyptic wasteland struggling to survive and heading south for some reason. Man keeps having flashbacks of his crazy wife.+ Show Spoiler [plot-ending] +
Many close calls with cannibals/randoms happen, man dies from unknown condition/wife suicides and boy meets random stranger/family. Nothing changes, boy is arguably worse off. The End.
Ok, so the only part of the movie that actually meant anything to me was how completely fucked up the father was to this black vagrant. (some kind of tough love thing to prove to his son). This is not a plot spoiler (if there is even a plot?) + Show Spoiler [fucked up scene] +
Basically what happens is the black man is following them trying to find an opportunity to steal their shit. He does, takes all the supplies and food and leaves the boy unharmed with his gun. Somehow they catch back up to this guy pulling the cart of shit and the father forces him at gunpoint to give back all the shit. Then he proceeds to make the man strip down to nothing (not even socks), the man begs and pleads (on the verge of tears). The father says "I'm going to leave you how you left us, with nothin" (exaggerated ofc) takes his clothes and knife and carts away with his boy. The man is left standing there half keeled over, freezing, and he everyone knows this man is worse off than dead. PS- this is not long after they find a cellar full of people who are starving and being kept hostage to inevitable be eaten. They find these people and lock them back in.
I have been looking but I can not find a clip of this scene anywhere. If someone knows one is, or wants to upload it to YT please do.
Ignoring the length and pseudo review of this movie, I actually wanted people to share about the most fucked up non-violent scenes in film that they have seen.
Obviously you don't know the background and what actually happened. Read the book itself. It will clear out some things (although I've never seen the movie itself).
On July 02 2010 13:48 CharlieMurphy wrote: Another disturbing/fucked up moment in film (although it is using violence/gore) that left me rattled for a few days was the scene in Hannibal where Ray Liotta's character is drugged and gets lobotomized right at the table. and Hopkins character proceeds to saute it right there and feed it to Ray Liotta. This was njust as disturbing as jar squatter or BME pain olympics for me.
That scene made me laugh out loud because of how absurd it was.
Isn't it totally plausible to lose a small piece of your frontal lobe brain there in the front and still function somewhat? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe
Damage
Damage to the frontal lobes can lead to a variety of results:
* Mental flexibility and spontaneity are impaired, but IQ is not reduced. * Talking may increase or decrease dramatically. * Perceptions regarding risk-taking and rule-abiding are impaired. * Socialization can diminish or increase. * Orbital frontal lobe damage can result in peculiar sexual habits. * Dorsolateral frontal lobe damage reduces sexual interest. * Creativity is diminished or increased as well as problem solving skills. * Distraction occurs more frequently. * Loss of smell and/or taste.
I did however think it had plot holes, and the whole situation didn't really make sense. Why are all the animals dead exactly, yet they are alive and all the forests are still there?
The only movie ive never been able to finish watching because it was so perverse and disturbing was "120 Days of Sodom". Which really suprised me because ive seen some pretty disturbing films.. but this one surely topped it off. Had to turn it off when i got to + Show Spoiler +
a part where this teenage boy and girl are being forced to have sex infront of everyone after getting married and one of the 3 older men that's "enslaving" the kids jumps in on the action. Soon after, a second one comes in and begins to nail the other old dude in the ass. Yup, thats when i was like, "Yeah.. thats enough that.." LoL
On July 02 2010 14:08 travis wrote: I thought it was alright, the acting was solid.
I did however think it had plot holes, and the whole situation didn't really make sense. Why are all the animals dead exactly, yet they are alive and all the forests are still there?
Also I thought it kind of dragged on.
6/10
Summary: This is post-apocalyptic situation where all animals and forests are dead/burned, and sun is demented. Pretty much, it's every man for himself. They are all trying to survive by killing each other and sometimes eating one another. So when someone else is trying to get these guys (Father and the Son), they're just going to kill'em and eat them alive.
Oh and I'm not sure if I answered your question about those death... that's just how Cormac McCarthy played it in the book.
On July 02 2010 13:48 CharlieMurphy wrote: Another disturbing/fucked up moment in film (although it is using violence/gore) that left me rattled for a few days was the scene in Hannibal where Ray Liotta's character is drugged and gets lobotomized right at the table. and Hopkins character proceeds to saute it right there and feed it to Ray Liotta. This was njust as disturbing as jar squatter or BME pain olympics for me.
That scene made me laugh out loud because of how absurd it was.
Isn't it totally plausible to lose a small piece of your frontal lobe brain there in the front and still function somewhat? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe
Damage to the frontal lobes can lead to a variety of results:
* Mental flexibility and spontaneity are impaired, but IQ is not reduced. * Talking may increase or decrease dramatically. * Perceptions regarding risk-taking and rule-abiding are impaired. * Socialization can diminish or increase. * Orbital frontal lobe damage can result in peculiar sexual habits. * Dorsolateral frontal lobe damage reduces sexual interest. * Creativity is diminished or increased as well as problem solving skills. * Distraction occurs more frequently. * Loss of smell and/or taste.
Yeah, it's plausible, but the idea of a man munching on his own brains was just too much for me to handle. It's been years since I've watched the movie and I still instinctively giggle from the thoughts of that scene.
On July 02 2010 14:10 Tenryu wrote: The only movie ive never been able to finish watching because it was so perverse and disturbing was "120 Days of Sodom". Which really suprised me because ive seen some pretty disturbing films.. but this one surely topped it off. Had to turn it off when i got to + Show Spoiler +
a part where this teenage boy and girl are being forced to have sex infront of everyone after getting married and one of the 3 older men that's enslaving the kids jumps in on the action. Soon after, a second one comes in and begins to nail the other old dude in the ass. Yup, thats when i was like, "Yeah.. thats enough that.." LoL
On July 02 2010 13:33 Daimon wrote: David Lynch should be appearing in this thread many times, so I'll start one off.
Inland Empire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460829/ I admit that I can't think of any one particular scene that is the "most" fucked up, since the whole movie is just one big cluster fuck of fucked up. I'll have to pick the scene that made a friend I watching it with say how freaked out he was (lol). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4YkcZO2Jzw arg i can't find the scene, but i'll post a couple scenes from the movie anyway.
It was the scene where the protagonist woman and the guy she's shooting a film with who she's having a real life affair with are having sex and during the middle of it, while under the covers, she starts asking the guy "is that you, John (or whatever the name was of his character in the movie they were starring in". At this point he gets a bit confused and she gets a bit frantic and continues to refer to him by the person in the movie rather than his real life name. At this point the guy himself starts to "snap out of it", if you will, and it just gets weird. Anyways, it doesn't sound that interesting the way I've written it, but I assure you it's really "fucked up". David Lynch has a way of making the viewer feel really uncomfortable to a surreal extreme, the scene I described features an oft used theme by the director, blurring the lines between fiction and reality; think Requiem for a Dream, add Tim Burton from hell and magnify times 100.
Scenes that have scarred me for life from that movie are when Laura Dern runs up to the camera in the dark but you can't see her face from afar until she gets right up to the screen crying, and also the ending when the villain turns into something really grotesque when Laura Dern shoots him. I tried not to remember too much from the rabbit scenes because of how eerie they were in general.
oh man i really wish I could remember the name of this one movie I've seen a lot of parts of at my friend's house.
it's some abstract independent film from the 70s and I think my friend told me one of the beatles helped produce it (I think john lennon but checking his IMDB producer credits I can't find the film)
it has some of the most fucked-up scenes I've ever seen in a movie, including:
- jesus being attacked by a large group of small children - jesus smoking a blunt with a midget with no hands - jesus falling asleep and then being captured by people who then make a body mold of him and - produce hundreds of copies of a paper mache jesus. jesus then wakes up in a giant pit full of them - and violently tries to break them all before breaking down and crying trying to put 1 back to gether - a reenactment of a war with 100s of frogs in costumes and then they all get blown up in a miniature town - a museum/art show where each work of art is a live model on stand completely naked and covered in paint where painters walk around with paint brushes painting their private parts. all models in this scene are wearing boxes over their heads.
fuck i wish i could remember the name of this movie
lol ideas that really does sound like the most fucked up movie ever sounds like the dreams i have man i have the weirdest dreams, every night i should probably make a blog post about them they are likely to be unrivaled in weirdness
Also, Mullholand drive had some pretty disturbing scenes in it as well.
As far as the Road is concerned I thought it was pretty thought provoking. Eventually everyone on the planet would have died eventually. With the ecosystem destroyed, and a limited supply of food (whether it'd be people or canned goods) they were bound to die. Soon. However in the end what matters most is how we live our lives on the short time that we are here anyway.
Also, I just like these post- apocolytpic movies in general because they raise so many interesting points such as, if my family were starving and if the constraints of society were lifted, then what would stop me from bashing your head in with a rock to get to the food behind you?
I thought this made the road more disturbing than any lynch movie I've seen. I felt pretty hollow after watching it. Because I felt that my faith in humanity was actually shaken. It made me realize just how fragile civilized society is. And how easily evil can spread.
This isn't a movie but this is really troubling on a fundamental level to me for some reason: + Show Spoiler +
On July 02 2010 14:35 Ideas wrote: oh man i really wish I could remember the name of this one movie I've seen a lot of parts of at my friend's house.
it's some abstract independent film from the 70s and I think my friend told me one of the beatles helped produce it (I think john lennon but checking his IMDB producer credits I can't find the film)
it has some of the most fucked-up scenes I've ever seen in a movie, including:
- jesus being attacked by a large group of small children - jesus smoking a blunt with a midget with no hands - jesus falling asleep and then being captured by people who then make a body mold of him and - produce hundreds of copies of a paper mache jesus. jesus then wakes up in a giant pit full of them - and violently tries to break them all before breaking down and crying trying to put 1 back to gether - a reenactment of a war with 100s of frogs in costumes and then they all get blown up in a miniature town - a museum/art show where each work of art is a live model on stand completely naked and covered in paint where painters walk around with paint brushes painting their private parts. all models in this scene are wearing boxes over their heads.
fuck i wish i could remember the name of this movie
OMFG that pickle surprise thing made me laugh pretty hard.. but yeah it's also kind of scary it's also making me watch a bunch of other creepy ass youtube videos and all right before i go to bed im prolly gonna have crazy dreams tonight. i like nightmares though bring that shit on i aint no fear
u know what, i can't even find a video that compares to pickle surprise.
Ah I remember reading the book for this about 2 years go. I never saw the movie, but I imagine it still followed similar imagery and whatnot to the book.
im going to spoiler this, just so i dont spoil stuff for people ^^;
What I got from reading that part in the book was that the father, out of defensive instincts, did what he did to protect his son. Yes, I agree that what he did was too extreme, but what my understanding of it is that the father saw this guy as a threat, and wanted to deal with him as such, so he left the guy to die the way he did. Besides, the general view of adults in that post-apocalyptic society is to do whatever they can to survive, and that was the father's way of "doing what he can to survive." Of course, after that encounter, the boy makes the father realize what he has done, and return the clothing and whatnot.
Compared to some of the stuff that the other people in the book/film do (such as kill babies and roast them on a spit), I think that the father's actions are not nearly as messed up.
The book was good and that's pretty much what happened. It's the situation that was fucked up, i thought the father's reaction was understandable in context.
On July 02 2010 13:33 Daimon wrote: David Lynch should be appearing in this thread many times, so I'll start one off.
Inland Empire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460829/ I admit that I can't think of any one particular scene that is the "most" fucked up, since the whole movie is just one big cluster fuck of fucked up. I'll have to pick the scene that made a friend I watching it with say how freaked out he was (lol). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4YkcZO2Jzw arg i can't find the scene, but i'll post a couple scenes from the movie anyway.
It was the scene where the protagonist woman and the guy she's shooting a film with who she's having a real life affair with are having sex and during the middle of it, while under the covers, she starts asking the guy "is that you, John (or whatever the name was of his character in the movie they were starring in". At this point he gets a bit confused and she gets a bit frantic and continues to refer to him by the person in the movie rather than his real life name. At this point the guy himself starts to "snap out of it", if you will, and it just gets weird. Anyways, it doesn't sound that interesting the way I've written it, but I assure you it's really "fucked up". David Lynch has a way of making the viewer feel really uncomfortable to a surreal extreme, the scene I described features an oft used theme by the director, blurring the lines between fiction and reality; think Requiem for a Dream, add Tim Burton from hell and magnify times 100.
Scenes that have scarred me for life from that movie are when Laura Dern runs up to the camera in the dark but you can't see her face from afar until she gets right up to the screen crying, and also the ending when the villain turns into something really grotesque when Laura Dern shoots him. I tried not to remember too much from the rabbit scenes because of how eerie they were in general.
that movie was fuckin weird as hell. my sister and i were watching it and after like 2 hours i got up and looked at the box to see if this movie would conclude anytime soon, only to see that we were only like halfway done. so we just stopped watching it.
check out hard candy. the scene where she's got him tied to the table, ready to cut his balls off. Just the dialogue alone is freaky. But the way its shot it wonder, horrifying, yet its just a conversation.
On July 02 2010 14:45 travis wrote: OMFG that pickle surprise thing made me laugh pretty hard.. but yeah it's also kind of scary it's also making me watch a bunch of other creepy ass youtube videos and all right before i go to bed im prolly gonna have crazy dreams tonight. i like nightmares though bring that shit on i aint no fear
u know what, i can't even find a video that compares to pickle surprise.
Oh and don't ever watch this movie high, or you might end up bleeching your eyes. (Actually it's not as disturbing as the trailer suggests so I recommend watching this movie high so you can report back to this thread right after!) The Begotten:
I'm fascinated by movies like these but at the same time I hate them because they usually leave me feeling just really empty inside and devoid of any humanity. If you anyone wants a list of disturbing AND violent movies I'll be happily provide you one.
The Road doesn't translate onto film well. The focus of the book was on themes and atmosphere moreso than actual plot development...and that's it works on paper. You have actually have to invest the time and emotion with books. Trying to do that in a time span of 2 hours for a movie doesn't work as well. But of course it depends on the individual. I tend to immerse myself in movies pretty quickly so I enjoyed the movie. If you're constantly the "observer" in a movie rather than living the movie, then The Road probably wasn't probably for you.
The Road was a decent movie. Fell far farther short of the book than No Country for Old Men - but I'm not sure The Road was suited to film adaptation anyway. Cormack McCarthy books never have clean and tidy endings, and many good movies in general share that trait, so saying the ending is unclear is an objectively bad thing is misleading. That's not to say it's objectively good, either - it's subject to the quality of the rest of the film, and the relevance of the style of the ending.
On July 02 2010 22:48 Hawk wrote: not to get overly technical cm, but since the scene in the road, the father uses a gun, can't it technically be described as violence??
I thought you meant things that were mentally fucked up or something. I do want to see the road though. I bought the book to read as well.
Well you could classify it as a violent crime if there were law involved. But what I was aiming away from when making the thread is to avoid people posting videos to SAW V or some other shitty horror movie. "DUDE HE CUT OFF HIS OWN ARM!!1"
In the scene nobody touches anyone, they are standing like 6 or more feet apart the whole time. It's fucked up in the sense that he's totally screwing over this guy and he knows it, yet he still does it.
I Know it is considered violence, but too me it's not the actual gore of the scene but the fact that it really happened...
The first 20 minutes of Saving Private Ryan. It's extremely violent, but what gets me every time is not the actual gore, but knowing that people were actually in that situation.
Has anyone seen Cannibal Holocaust? It's banned in I don't know how many countries and I'm a little ashamed to watch it. It's not as much violent as it is grotesque. For one, a turtle is butchered (an actual turtle, not fake) in one of the scenes, and in another scene this guy catches some kind of rodent (again, real) and knifes its throat. That's not even close to the worst of the movie, either. I do not recommend watching it, although I thought the plot was somewhat original and interesting. It's like a movie of a very, very cruel documentary that they decide in the end must be destroyed.
On July 02 2010 14:45 travis wrote: OMFG that pickle surprise thing made me laugh pretty hard.. but yeah it's also kind of scary it's also making me watch a bunch of other creepy ass youtube videos and all right before i go to bed im prolly gonna have crazy dreams tonight. i like nightmares though bring that shit on i aint no fear
u know what, i can't even find a video that compares to pickle surprise.
On July 03 2010 05:51 Nickosha wrote: Has anyone seen Cannibal Holocaust? It's banned in I don't know how many countries and I'm a little ashamed to watch it. It's not as much violent as it is grotesque. For one, a turtle is butchered (an actual turtle, not fake) in one of the scenes, and in another scene this guy catches some kind of rodent (again, real) and knifes its throat. That's not even close to the worst of the movie, either. I do not recommend watching it, although I thought the plot was somewhat original and interesting. It's like a movie of a very, very cruel documentary that they decide in the end must be destroyed.
yea i've seen it it's actually kind of a stupid movie, but yea those animal killings were real as far as wiki goes. There are more than a few movies that have shit like this (most of them are low budget and bad movies) but this is not the kind of thing I am looking for with this thread.
The road was boring, i guess the only reason i made it to the end was because it was in a post apocalyptic environment.
There is this crazy danish movie where a retired soldier and some hitmen goes on happy hunting in the region of Serbia/Kosovo/Bosnia, + Show Spoiler +
you know there was ethnical civil war there. Its all organised by themselves. So they come in with a helicopter, make touchdown in an abonded area, and travel silently through the forest in a mountainous region. They come to a small village undetected, they stay hidden in the forest, + Show Spoiler +
sets up their sniper rifles gear and starts shooting small children, woman and men. Soon they are detected and a big manhunt is on.The scene were they starts killing innocents are pretty disturbing
The plot of the movie is for the snipers to reach the extraction zone without dying.
I love how you want the movie to do all the thinking for you, and not think at all by yourself. (I've only read the novel and not seen the movie, but I hear it is quite accurate).
The Road is prolly one of the best novels I've ever read. It's so dark, strange and incredible sad. But yeah, the ending would probably seem a bit strange in a movie-format.
On July 04 2010 01:26 Infernus wrote: I love how you want the movie to do all the thinking for you, and not think at all by yourself. (I've only read the novel and not seen the movie, but I hear it is quite accurate).
The Road is prolly one of the best novels I've ever read. It's so dark, strange and incredible sad. But yeah, the ending would probably seem a bit strange in a movie-format.
I love how you come drop some knowledge without having seen the film, and assume the movie is good because you read the book. (I've assuming some shit here that I read, but I hear it is quite accurate).
That is what the Road is about. His wife(her role is played up in the movie a bit) kills herself. The boy and the man decide to keep fighting. The only people left are cannibals and scavengers. The sun doesn't come out anymore. All plants are dead or dying. Few to no animals are left. The dad is dying of a sickness. And yet the man and the boy keep trying to survive. A vivid story about human spirit and the love of a man and his son. There was never going to be a fairy tale ending.
I thought the scene in the cellar is the most messed up situation I've ever seen or read. I felt the scene with the black man was a reversion to the eye for an eye sense of justice that is likely to exist after an apocalypse.
McCarthy has an extremely rich and deep writing style. Every word is carefully chosen and packed full of allusions and deeper meanings. He is one of the most through provoking authors ever.
If you like a post apocalyptic setting with a more positive twist, I highly highly highly suggest The Earth Abides. It was written in 1949, but is still amazing. Basically a plague wipes out 99.9% of people and the story follows this guy trying to rebuild civilization. A fantastic read. Can't recommend this enough.
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