• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:05
CET 00:05
KST 08:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners2Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!20$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1281 users

sellable strategies...

Blogs > Licmyobelisk
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 14:39:52
July 01 2010 10:09 GMT
#1
This is so fucking funny. I clicked on JessicaJung's stream then I click on an ad, just for the lols, I found a website who are selling techniques and stuff on how to improve one's self in starcraft 2. I mean this would be okay if they had players with okay reputation but come on..

Who the hell promises you that you'd be a professional gamer in a few days just because you read their freaking strategy guide. If they had the credentials to do it then fine, that's pretty okay to teach and get paid if you're like gosucoaching or other high level players but come on. Who the hell are you guys?

These are type of people whom Kennigit was talking about, capitalist bullshit motherfuckers who think they ka-ching on us gamers. Like lol, we have teamliquid and other website who would give free strategies (high level of course) and some high level players posting in here.

I dunno, just lol'ed for the moment when I saw the website but after reading through the wall of text just made me rage thinking that they're gonna profit some shit.

What a bunch of douches...


Btw, this has nothing to do with JessicaJung, there's the usual Livestream ads that you can click on and it wasn't an advertisement from Jessica.

Thanks for the futurama streams jess, Loved it!

*
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 01 2010 10:12 GMT
#2
No need to be so angry.
Ioannis
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
Greece62 Posts
July 01 2010 10:19 GMT
#3
link website or it never happened :p
:)
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
July 01 2010 10:22 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
July 01 2010 10:34 GMT
#5
On July 01 2010 19:22 Inori wrote:
welcome to teh internets


We make money of people who do not understand!
Derp Derp Derp
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
July 01 2010 10:36 GMT
#6
whatever, if anyone is stupid enough to pay them for that crap, they deserve to be exploited I mean they aren't doing anything wrong besides exaggerated advertising... they are providing a service (albeit a shitty one)
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
July 01 2010 10:49 GMT
#7
TL:s startegy guides and discussion forums/support and players are far superior ....besides it's free =)
BW for life !
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 10:54:52
July 01 2010 10:53 GMT
#8
LOL i found one.

this stuff is really hilariously bad, is it against the rules to post it or something?
$27 hahaha
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
July 01 2010 10:57 GMT
#9
Let's just keep this blog as a warning so everyone will know that high level strategies are free here in our beloved website..

I think that's what I found as well Buti
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 01 2010 11:40 GMT
#10
This isn't a dig at teamliquid, but the 95% of the strategies and discussion in the sc2 strat forums is very far from high level... In fact i'd say reading everything in that forum as fact is detrimental to your progress as a player
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 01 2010 11:42 GMT
#11
Some people deserve to be exploited =S
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
July 01 2010 11:47 GMT
#12
On July 01 2010 20:40 Ftrunkz wrote:
This isn't a dig at teamliquid, but the 95% of the strategies and discussion in the sc2 strat forums is very far from high level... In fact i'd say reading everything in that forum as fact is detrimental to your progress as a player

Thats why we don't claim to be able to elevate you to progamer status in a week
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 12:12:26
July 01 2010 12:11 GMT
#13
I beat jessicajung on live stream....just saying, /polishing e-peen

But ya that is bs, But it happens for almost everygame. Counterstrike, Streetfighter even WoW has "services" like that
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 12:45:18
July 01 2010 12:34 GMT
#14
Who the hell promises you that you'd be a professional gamer in a few days just because you read their freaking strategy guide. If they had the credentials to do it then fine, that's pretty okay to teach and get paid if you're like gosucoaching or other high level players but come on. Who the hell are you guys?


errr... this whole discussion hinges on where you draw the line for "high level"

If you're going to consider GosuCoaching.com "high level," you're going to have to consider JessicaJung and all mid-high diamond players "high level"

Fact of the matter is, people know these players aren't real "professionals" so the majority of people understand what they are paying for.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 01 2010 12:51 GMT
#15
they are actually very smart knowing that there are idiots out there who'd believe anything

not the first people to take advantage of internet stupidity
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 13:13:22
July 01 2010 13:06 GMT
#16
Copy/paste liquipedia and TL guides. Make it a paying site. Make fake testimonies on the home page "This guide is great, I read it in one afternoon and got on top of my division after a few days".
Out of the 10 millions people who are gonna buy the game at least 3000 are gonna pay for your content. If you make it 20$, you can make 60 000$ ez. As Cambium said, they just take advantage of people stupidity, just like the spammers who sell viagra or w/e, you're thinking who would be retarded enough to trust them and purchase, but even if 0.01% of the hundreds of millions people who are receiving these offers, they still make a shitload of money.

edit : I just remember seeing an ad saying they can make you a Farmville pro for 40$ (LOL), so when I said 20 * 3000 I guess I really underestimated the money you can make.
Btw I discovered the TL behind the curtain thread, and when Mani asked for 1 million dollars, even If he intended to make a reference to Austin Powers, I think TL is worth a lot more ! That what makes TL so great !
ॐ
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 01 2010 13:14 GMT
#17
On July 01 2010 19:34 Baksteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 19:22 Inori wrote:
welcome to teh internets


We make money of people who do not understand!


lol this post is funnier than it meant to be
Each day gets better : )
michiko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 13:56:52
July 01 2010 13:56 GMT
#18
Can I make a quick comment?

I'm not trying to say what you're saying is wrong, and in some instances the people who are making those sites do not have the right knowledge to teach.

However, take a moment to think of it this way.

Do top players in sports, business and finance 'teach' lowbies?

Of course, some do, but in the majority of sense - the top players in an institution or industry are too busy contributing to that industry and being the top dog, to teach others.

A really good quote, has always stuck with me:

"Teachers, teach because they are not good enough to perform at top levels in what they are teaching".

I have several friends who Theorycraft beautifully, but never really perform. They would make great teachers!

---

As for the free stuff on Team Liquid;

I also agree that an interested player can and will improve his game by reading the material here; but recall that people learn in many different fashions.

Audio, visual, hands-on...IMO Team Liquid does provide all three, but mostly visual through the art of reading and writing.

Endorsements and community credibility is important, but often times a product should stand for itself. If a business entity provides a valid and actually helpful training program for students, why does it have to be shunned just because it doesn't have a direct involvement from an already pro-player?

NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 01 2010 14:15 GMT
#19
In my opinion it is very silly.. I think their target audience is like a soccer mom or something..no serious person is going to "get help" from bad players (im guessing)

Gosucoaching has atleast some decent players (inKa, Machine, LZ, Incontrol)
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 01 2010 14:23 GMT
#20
On July 01 2010 22:56 michiko wrote:
Can I make a quick comment?

A really good quote, has always stuck with me:

"Teachers, teach because they are not good enough to perform at top levels in what they are teaching".





Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym class.

Each day gets better : )
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #58
CranKy Ducklings18
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
22:00
Masters Cup 150 Open Qual
davetesta25
Liquipedia
LAN Event
18:00
Day 3: Ursa 2v2, FFA
SteadfastSC345
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 345
White-Ra 269
ProTech127
JuggernautJason83
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 498
Artosis 162
NaDa 13
Counter-Strike
Foxcn127
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe124
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu458
Other Games
tarik_tv14129
fl0m599
shahzam481
FrodaN306
ToD199
Pyrionflax175
C9.Mang0157
Mew2King75
PPMD24
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL106
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 52
• musti20045 38
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile111
• Azhi_Dahaki5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2343
• Ler85
League of Legends
• TFBlade1155
Other Games
• imaqtpie1465
• Scarra559
• Shiphtur169
Upcoming Events
OSC
12h 55m
LAN Event
15h 55m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 3h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 10h
LAN Event
1d 15h
IPSL
1d 18h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 20h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.