• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:26
CEST 08:26
KST 15:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall11HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles7[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China10Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL76
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles Server Blocker RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Last Minute Live-Report Thread Resource!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Accidental Video Game Porn Archive Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 638 users

Unit suggestions! Wooho!

Blogs > Bananas
Post a Reply
Bananas
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden98 Posts
June 13 2010 22:38 GMT
#1
Hey

Was just looking through the Tech trees for each race( bored )
It then struck me that that all military armies have some form of APC. So why not our beloved Terran?

Well ofcourse there are some problems on getting this into the game. First obstacle is the Medievac who already fill the Rapid transport/deployment role. So it needs to do something more than just drive around marines and marauders.

my idea is that the APC should be given a number of different weapon choices, replacing the standard weapons(a light cannon or machine gun or something). Give me a choice of goodies like a Flamethrower( XL variant) Mortars?(slightly longer range then Siegetanks but significantly lower damage)AA-rockets/cannons, Armor addon(imagine oversized armor plates and a huge plow infront, giving like +2 armor but no weaponry) maybe even a Spellcaster module with stuff like vechile repairs, small area scan or something like that.

Ofcourse you would need to research each upgrade indivually and then pay a small sum to "fit" the upgrade to each APC. Put these upgrades in armory but make the APC availble without Tech Lab to make it viable as a customizable specialized vechile both Mid and lategame. installing an upgrade could also remove the Troop carrying capacity.

This could be a vital part of many Terran builds. Balancing it could be hard tho. giving it something like 150hp and 0armor considering it is not a an actual tank. The costs should probably include something like 100 minerals 50 gas since the upgrades will cost you resources aswell as time.

So what do you think about the idea?

Poll: Do you Want a Terran APC/Custom weapons platform

NO! (9)
 
75%

YES! (3)
 
25%

like the idea, but not like this (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Do you Want a Terran APC/Custom weapons platform

(Vote): YES!
(Vote): NO!
(Vote): like the idea, but not like this



*
"terrible terrible damage"
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
June 13 2010 22:48 GMT
#2
My friend would love this,
sc2mapster could help.
Making this yourself?
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 13 2010 23:20 GMT
#3
Moving bunkers are scary hard to balance. While they exist in regular modern armies, they introduce something that generally fails in other rts such as red alert. RA2 Battle foretress were way too strong, and so were china's apcs. The only thing that balanced that was the huge variation in damage types, making apcs very low life units.

I'm fine with it in UMS, however adding a unit that serves no real role in countering other units, for the sake of adding more units to a game, is not the way to go.
rwan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada68 Posts
June 13 2010 23:28 GMT
#4
Incoming imbalance, incoming imbalance. XD
...But the parasites say NO!
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 01:40:20
June 14 2010 01:39 GMT
#5
These have been in just about every other major RTS, but they are a bad unit.

The problem with these units that can be "fitted" with different "kits" is that they rarely actually fit a unique role, something that is king in a good RTS like SC. You suggested flamethrowers (niche already filled by hellion), mortars (niche already filled by siege tank), AA/armor (filled by Thor), and casting/scan (filled by OC and raven/ghost).

If you can think of roles that are unique and synergize with other units, there is nothing wrong with the concept of a refittable unit, but in practice they tend to be a boring jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none units that steps on all the other units feet.

Its almost always better to simply split the refits into their own unique units and force the player to be more decisive in their decision making and to use a more diverse army composition.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
June 14 2010 01:47 GMT
#6
What's the point of this unit? You need to have a concrete use for it, and it can't overlap other units too much or else players will simply choose the one with better stats.
ted cruz is the zodiac killer
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2574 Posts
June 14 2010 01:52 GMT
#7
" You've not enough imbalance " - Protoss voice.
Wishing you well.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 245
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 2797
Leta 581
Noble 19
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm144
League of Legends
JimRising 731
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1222
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor237
Other Games
summit1g12638
WinterStarcraft563
ViBE220
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick38320
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH352
• OhrlRock 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2310
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 34m
RSL Revival
3h 34m
Classic vs Clem
FEL
8h 34m
Elazer vs Spirit
Gerald vs MaNa
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
11h 34m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
Wardi Open
1d 4h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
HSC XXVII
NC Random Cup

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.