EPTthe word METAGAME - Page 10
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
It's such a dangerous word to use when Chill is on duty. | ||
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loveeholicce
Korea (South)785 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216745 | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245565 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=241934 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234368 Please people think of the children! | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
 [edit] That last one is now a work of art thanks to chill. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Moa
United States790 Posts
So much is wrong with that I almost cried. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
Note: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234368#3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245565#8 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=241934#18 This was the first thing that came to my mind when I read those threads so I guess I am not alone  | ||
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 20 2011 14:47 Cassel_Castle wrote: I've always seen it as two words, a noun meaning "the current builds expected to be used" and a verb meaning "using outside information or tactics to win". The OP says the second is a word and the first isn't? So it's never ok to use metagame as a noun? For yours and the children's sake, just forget the word exists. Especially when Chill is around. He has very strong (understatement of the year) views on this particular word and generally it is better to just leave it alone. | ||
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
Example of metagaming: Players all agree that unit A is too strong. Many players are winning games by only making A. To react, opponents have been rushing for unit B, which is a counter to A. Knowing this, a player has developed a build which is weak against everything but a rush to B. I think this is where the use/misuse of the word metagame comes from. Build orders are created to counter popular build orders of the time. As a result, new build orders are created to counter the counter and lead to mind games. Thus, the "metagame" is created. Or something like that. | ||
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
Meta-xxxx, like meta-stability or meta-stable means, in science, something is in midway point. Not at it's most stable position, but rather it found a hole of stability. If I have to extrapolate this, meta-game would mean... yes, it wouldn't make sense :D Or even if we use direct Greek meaning for meta, the phrase makes little sense. I am not sure if people know what they are talking about when each person understands "metagame" in their own way, | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On September 02 2011 13:31 Xxavi wrote: I am failing either to understand this phrase/term, or people are using it incorrectly. Meta-xxxx, like meta-stability or meta-stable means, in science, something is in midway point. Not at it's most stable position, but rather it found a hole of stability. If I have to extrapolate this, meta-game would mean... yes, it wouldn't make sense :D Or even if we use direct Greek meaning for meta, the phrase makes little sense. I am not sure if people know what they are talking about when each person understands "metagame" in their own way, I am sure that there is some reasoning if what you have written, though it is all greek to me. I am going to take this opportunity to quote myself from a few posts above yours On July 20 2011 14:50 Probulous wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On July 20 2011 14:47 Cassel_Castle wrote: I've always seen it as two words, a noun meaning "the current builds expected to be used" and a verb meaning "using outside information or tactics to win". The OP says the second is a word and the first isn't? So it's never ok to use metagame as a noun? For yours and the children's sake, just forget the word exists. Especially when Chill is around. He has very strong (understatement of the year) views on this particular word and generally it is better to just leave it alone. | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
I think we should meta discuss the value of meta discussing the word metagame. I personally think that it's futile. Maybe it's just a fad? Time will tell. | ||
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shihido
Singapore29 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
But you can't really blame people for using the evolved meaning of metagame since many high-profile commentators (e.g. Tastosis) use it in that manner. | ||
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Cruncharoo
United States136 Posts
"I'll bet you $x dollars that y happens." "Okay. It's a bet." "No. I don't want to actually bet I just know it'll happen." Well, if you knew y was going to happen then you'd be foolish not to make the bet. It's mind-bottling to me when people do this. | ||
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AutomatonOmega
United States706 Posts
On November 08 2011 10:16 neppi wrote: But if I play a game and lose to unit A and think "fck next game ill make unit A to win because it seemed OP last game" that is not metagaming? If I read on the forums that unit A is awesome vs unit B, I see unit B and counters with unit A, thats metagaming? It's a pretty broad concept. Rock, Paper, Scissors. Everyone knows this. Under normal circumstances, there's no RPS metagame because you generally have a 33% chance to win when you view the rule of the game in a vacuum. Then, you create an abstract rule where Rock is worth 3 points, Scissors is worth 2 points, and Paper is worth 1 point, first player to an undisclosed number of points wins. At that point, the game takes on layers of depth and begins to develop a metagame. The entire game becomes one of trying to bait your opponent into using Scissors, and the community develops strategies designed to most efficiently create that scenario. Then, the developers of Rock, Paper, Scissors release a patch that makes it so that now Scissors is 3 points and Rock is 2. The metagame shifts. | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
An Example, I use meta game on my opponent in an Ace match in a clan war by saying I have a Raid of 40 people waiting for me the main tank in an MMMORPG. Which makes my opponent think i'm going to all-in him for a quick win, because he would think i'm short on TIME. And I would play a greedy style to take advantage of my opponent being overly passive. Don't use the word metagame to describe Trends in play style, you know what you call use to describe Trends in playstyle? instead of the "current metagame" you should use "the current Trends" | ||
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