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Bnet 0.2 gets rightfully smashed

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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 10 2010 13:41 GMT
#1
Now I usually don't post just links, but the article written is pretty self explanatory, and it pretty much explains the sentiment of a lot of TL members about the state of bnet 0.2

It's a pretty funny (and sad) read in a few places.

http://www.the-ghetto.org/content/battle-net-2-0-the-antithesis-of-consumer-confidence

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50182 Posts
June 10 2010 13:45 GMT
#2
Good read...really addresses all of our problems in the most aggressive way I've seen so far.

But why blog about it insted of posting it in the sc2 forum?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 10 2010 13:46 GMT
#3
I am pretty sure that is the personal site of Ghetto_Overlord, Firstborn of Battle.Net SC2 General Discussion Forum trolls.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9757 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 14:00:12
June 10 2010 14:00 GMT
#4
On June 10 2010 22:46 snotboogie wrote:
I am pretty sure that is the personal site of Ghetto_Overlord, Firstborn of Battle.Net SC2 General Discussion Forum trolls.

does not detract from the truth in the article. do you not agree? or are you part of blizzard?

edit: or activision?
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 10 2010 14:10 GMT
#5
On June 10 2010 23:00 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 22:46 snotboogie wrote:
I am pretty sure that is the personal site of Ghetto_Overlord, Firstborn of Battle.Net SC2 General Discussion Forum trolls.

does not detract from the truth in the article. do you not agree? or are you part of blizzard?

edit: or activision?

Since he doesn't agree with you, he must work for Blizzard? What?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
June 10 2010 14:11 GMT
#6
Awesome.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 14:11:56
June 10 2010 14:11 GMT
#7
To quote Icesong of the Battle.net forums: “Battle.net was fucking name brand. Battle.net wasn’t some fucking trash service you should be lucky to even have working, like ESO or The Zone, it was the fucking standard."

Sums it up for me. Battle.net was the greatest online gaming service. Battle.net 2.0 destroyed the brand for me.

I was one of the people thinking, "Oh, I'll boycott Battle.net 2.0 during beta. I'll make sure Blizzard knows they've made a mistake and fix the major flaws of Battle.net 2.0 before release." but I've since changed my mentality to, "I'm not buying StarCraft 2. There are too many other good games to play that don't fight against me. I'll check out SC2 when a private server that doesn't suck comes around."
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 10 2010 14:18 GMT
#8
I'm getting some really weird MW2 vibes with the new battle.net 2.0 .. they know whats best for us, don't you worry about it.

:/
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
June 10 2010 14:19 GMT
#9
Just quoting this because I strongly am against the fact we can only publish 5 maps and 20 mb?considering I am a map maker.

In an internet where Google can supply seven gigabytes of storage for a free e-mail account, the Battle.net map publishing system gives you twenty megabytes for your five maps


From this comment I honestly don't know where blizzard is going with this whole limitation on map making
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Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
June 10 2010 14:21 GMT
#10
Great article- read it in entirety- glad i did lol

I have not watched a game of sc2 and i don't ever plan too.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 14:23:11
June 10 2010 14:22 GMT
#11
That's what pissed me off too, apparently they want your maps so they can resell them themselves on other realms and profit, since you're agreeing to giving the map away when you publish it.

Their business model went from "make great games" to "make the customer agree to being robbed by using legalese"

PS: replying to Ares
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
June 10 2010 14:23 GMT
#12
On June 10 2010 23:19 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:
Just quoting this because I strongly am against the fact we can only publish 5 maps and 20 mb?considering I am a map maker.

Show nested quote +
In an internet where Google can supply seven gigabytes of storage for a free e-mail account, the Battle.net map publishing system gives you twenty megabytes for your five maps


From this comment I honestly don't know where blizzard is going with this whole limitation on map making


Yeah I'm glad he pointed this out. At first I thought it'd be unreasonable for us to expect Blizzard to have massive storage space on their servers, but the gmail comparison makes Bnet look pretty sad indeed.
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
June 10 2010 14:32 GMT
#13
Also one thing this article made clear to me, I honestly never thought of it until now..

Blizzard wants me to marry Facebook.

Battle.net integrates Facebook alongside RealID. RealID friends will see your first and last name. It’s Blizzard’s way of giving internet enemies a reason to hack your account. Have a common name? Think they can’t discover your identity? Those other RealID names are just the missing puzzle pieces. Plan on using a fake name? When your account is compromised, good luck explaining to Blizzard why you can’t supply identification to prove you’re Michael Lowell from Plant City, Nebraska.


Now the other issue..
The issue with RealID? It usurps functionality. On Battle.net 1.0, I could use “/f m [message]” to message every player on my friends list. Simple, easy, etc. In Battle.net 2.0, this function is replaced with the ability to “broadcast” messages. In order to use this, you must use RealID or Facebook. You have to render privacy a lost art to get something I had six years ago.


So basically if I want to use friend message I have to add them by their email, now if I do that there is a problem (see first quote) oh man =\
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See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
June 10 2010 14:37 GMT
#14
ghetto_overlord is a great guy. ive read some of his other stuff, pretty prescient.
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
June 10 2010 14:51 GMT
#15
lol haha this picture made my day =D
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Volshok
Profile Joined August 2008
United States349 Posts
June 10 2010 14:59 GMT
#16
On June 10 2010 23:21 Misrah wrote:
Great article- read it in entirety- glad i did lol

I have not watched a game of sc2 and i don't ever plan too.


I played for most of Beta and had a lot of fun, but I cancelled my preorder after the Pearce interview. Starcraft 2 really looks like it's going to be Modern Warfare 2 all over again, which Blizzard will be totally happy with. And why wouldn't they be? MW2 made absurd amounts of money, which is what Activision Blizzard is after. I know I'd be pretty excited if my company could release a sub-par product, with less features then the original, and make a killing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123657
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
June 10 2010 15:04 GMT
#17
Very nice post, it sucks that despite everything sc2 will be very popular and the next big rts ;(
its me
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
June 10 2010 15:08 GMT
#18
On June 10 2010 23:32 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:
Also one thing this article made clear to me, I honestly never thought of it until now..

Show nested quote +
Blizzard wants me to marry Facebook.

Battle.net integrates Facebook alongside RealID. RealID friends will see your first and last name. It’s Blizzard’s way of giving internet enemies a reason to hack your account. Have a common name? Think they can’t discover your identity? Those other RealID names are just the missing puzzle pieces. Plan on using a fake name? When your account is compromised, good luck explaining to Blizzard why you can’t supply identification to prove you’re Michael Lowell from Plant City, Nebraska.


Now the other issue..
Show nested quote +
The issue with RealID? It usurps functionality. On Battle.net 1.0, I could use “/f m [message]” to message every player on my friends list. Simple, easy, etc. In Battle.net 2.0, this function is replaced with the ability to “broadcast” messages. In order to use this, you must use RealID or Facebook. You have to render privacy a lost art to get something I had six years ago.


So basically if I want to use friend message I have to add them by their email, now if I do that there is a problem (see first quote) oh man =\


First of all, the only time I ever saw /f m used was to talk to ONE PERSON, effectively spamming the rest of the people on the friends list. This is how it would go:

/f m oh hey jim hows it going
/f m lol ya
/f m hey did you want to play 2v2
/f m maybe i havent asked yet tho
/f m lmao shes preggo already lololol

/f m was easier to type than /w <someone's long bnet name> for every message, or /w %f13 or whatever that silly command was to speak to an individual friend, so everyone who's not that person got spammed which was really annoying. Messaging individual friends is much easier with the GUI than it was in the original Bnet.

Also the ability to add friends not using RealID was removed for a few patches, they've implied that it's going to return. I wouldn't get too scared over that issue either.
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Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
June 10 2010 15:13 GMT
#19
Played over 2000games on beta, been #1 plat in 1s/2s countless times, and honestly over the last month or so I couldn't be paid to play sc2, or anything dealing with bnet0.2

Hopefully they get their shit together before they kill diablo 3
Lysis
Profile Joined October 2009
United States147 Posts
June 10 2010 15:15 GMT
#20
While most of his stuff is funny and pokes fun at things in a hilarious manner (look at his WC3 guides for examples) this is actually probably the first serious thing I've seen him write. It's good too, it pretty much sums up everything we (as a community) have been complaining about since that awful Patch 13 ruined whatever husk of a BattleNet we had. I hope the BattleNet dev team reads that, they're in for a surprise.
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