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Well, it looks like it's official. Nebraska will be joining the Big 10 on Friday. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5268408
Being in the heart of Big 12 country, OU being my hometown team and in Texas A&M for college, these series of events looks like it will radically change the college football scene. With Nebraska's move to the Big 10, it looks like the 5 Big 12 schools and Colorado will join up with the Pac 10 to form a super conference, mostly for monetary reasons. I understand that college football today is all about cash revenue and TV contracts, but it is sad to see these events unfolding for such a powerful football conference (7 BCS national championship appearances).
Personally, I am excited about OU and Texas A&M heading over to the 'Pac 10' and competing with the USCs and the Oregons and it will certainly grow into a much powerful football conference. Road trips to the Rose Bowl and the colosseum will be awesome! However, I do feel bad for Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State, who will be utterly screwed by this.
What are your thoughts on these changes, especially you guys in Pac 10 and big 12 country?
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Looking back at how things were before conference affiliation I liked it a lot more. Having Miami, FSU, ND, and PSU be independent was nice. It seemed like from the schedules you got a lot more big games back then. I know Miami came to Michigan twice in the 80's and Michigan also played FSU. That stuff will never happen with these huge conferences. Itll be 2 garbage teams in the beginning of the season and then conference play and then lackluster bowl games like always  .
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Yeah, I'm not really all that excited about this. Just like I'm not excited about College Basketball expanding the tournament. I wish this stuff wasn't so heavily influenced by money. Sadly though that is what is the deciding factor in all college related sports.
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I'm not too excited about this either. I was perfectly fine with the conferences the way. As someone currently in Pac-10 territory, I don't know if a 16 team superconference is the way to go and whether dividing a west and east region is good. Plus Pac-16 is not as fun to say as Pac-10.
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CA10829 Posts
On June 10 2010 10:03 Sadist wrote:Looking back at how things were before conference affiliation I liked it a lot more. Having Miami, FSU, ND, and PSU be independent was nice. It seemed like from the schedules you got a lot more big games back then. I know Miami came to Michigan twice in the 80's and Michigan also played FSU. That stuff will never happen with these huge conferences. Itll be 2 garbage teams in the beginning of the season and then conference play and then lackluster bowl games like always .
has to do with the introduction of the BCS.
some schools still play good OOC schedules... like USC.
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On June 10 2010 10:45 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 10:03 Sadist wrote:Looking back at how things were before conference affiliation I liked it a lot more. Having Miami, FSU, ND, and PSU be independent was nice. It seemed like from the schedules you got a lot more big games back then. I know Miami came to Michigan twice in the 80's and Michigan also played FSU. That stuff will never happen with these huge conferences. Itll be 2 garbage teams in the beginning of the season and then conference play and then lackluster bowl games like always . has to do with the introduction of the BCS. some schools still play good OOC schedules... like USC.
its nothing like it used to be. USC still plays scrubs too. The worst is when you buy season tickets and you get games like Montana State
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Well, with the super conferences and possibly a 9 game conference schedule, I don't see many tough OOC schedules by major teams in the future. It's just too hard to play a Notre Dame/Ohio State while playing a Texas/USC in conference in the same year.
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CA10829 Posts
On June 10 2010 10:51 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 10:45 LosingID8 wrote:On June 10 2010 10:03 Sadist wrote:Looking back at how things were before conference affiliation I liked it a lot more. Having Miami, FSU, ND, and PSU be independent was nice. It seemed like from the schedules you got a lot more big games back then. I know Miami came to Michigan twice in the 80's and Michigan also played FSU. That stuff will never happen with these huge conferences. Itll be 2 garbage teams in the beginning of the season and then conference play and then lackluster bowl games like always . has to do with the introduction of the BCS. some schools still play good OOC schedules... like USC. its nothing like it used to be. USC still plays scrubs too. The worst is when you buy season tickets and you get games like Montana State
what scrubs do we play? the worst teams we play are from the WAC or MWC
here are our recent OOC schedules (including bowl games):
2002
Auburn (SEC)
@Colorado (Big XII)
@Kansas State (Big XII)
Notre Dame
Iowa (Big Ten) (Orange Bowl)
2003
@Auburn (SEC)
BYU (MWC)
Hawai'i (WAC)
@Notre Dame
Michigan (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl)
2004
vs Virginia Tech (ACC) (Neutral Site)
Colorado State (WAC)
@BYU (MWC)
Notre Dame
vs Oklahoma (Big XII) (BCS Championship)
2005
@Hawai'i (WAC)
Arkansas (SEC)
@Notre Dame
Fresno State (WAC)
Texas (Big XII) (BCS Championship)
2006
@Arkansas (SEC)
Nebraska (Big XII)
Notre Dame
Michigan (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl)
2007
Idaho (WAC)
@Nebraska (Big XII)
@Notre Dame
Illinois (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl)
2008
@Virgina (ACC)
Ohio State (Big Ten)
Notre Dame
Penn State (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl)
2009
San Jose State (WAC)
@Ohio State
@Notre Dame
Boston College (ACC) (Emerald Bowl)
2010
@Hawai'i (WAC)
Virgina (ACC)
@Minnesota (Big Ten)
Notre Dame
find me another major program in a conference that schedules like we do year after year
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I gotta admit USC has the balls to schedule tough non conference opponents. OU's non conference this year is pretty tough:
Utah State
Air Force
Florida State
@Cincinnati
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Ohio State usually has a tough non-conference too. I wish Michigan would.
It's the SEC that usually won't play any non-conference away from home.
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CA10829 Posts
On June 10 2010 11:17 Jibba wrote:
Ohio State usually has a tough non-conference too. I wish Michigan would.
It's the SEC that usually won't play any non-conference away from home.
i think there was some statistic that showed that Florida has only played 3 regular-season OOC games outside the state of florida since WW2 or something ridiculous like that lol. maybe it was more than 3 but i remember it was in the single digits. lol.
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You should just look at Texas' non conference schedule for the last couple of years...that's a freaking joke.
2007: (Arkansas State, TCU, UCF, Rice) lol
2008: (Florida Atlantic, UTEP, Arkansas, Rice)
2009: (Louisiana Monroe, Wyoming, UTEP, UCF)
2010: (Rice, Wyoming, UCLA, Florida Atlantic)
Bunch of cupcakes
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2010 11:09 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 10:51 Sadist wrote:On June 10 2010 10:45 LosingID8 wrote:On June 10 2010 10:03 Sadist wrote:Looking back at how things were before conference affiliation I liked it a lot more. Having Miami, FSU, ND, and PSU be independent was nice. It seemed like from the schedules you got a lot more big games back then. I know Miami came to Michigan twice in the 80's and Michigan also played FSU. That stuff will never happen with these huge conferences. Itll be 2 garbage teams in the beginning of the season and then conference play and then lackluster bowl games like always . has to do with the introduction of the BCS. some schools still play good OOC schedules... like USC. its nothing like it used to be. USC still plays scrubs too. The worst is when you buy season tickets and you get games like Montana State what scrubs do we play? the worst teams we play are from the WAC or MWC here are our recent OOC schedules (including bowl games): 2002 Auburn (SEC) @Colorado (Big XII) @Kansas State (Big XII) Notre Dame Iowa (Big Ten) (Orange Bowl) 2003 @Auburn (SEC) BYU (MWC) Hawai'i (WAC) @Notre Dame Michigan (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2004 vs Virginia Tech (ACC) (Neutral Site) Colorado State (WAC) @BYU (MWC) Notre Dame vs Oklahoma (Big XII) (BCS Championship) 2005 @Hawai'i (WAC) Arkansas (SEC) @Notre Dame Fresno State (WAC) Texas (Big XII) (BCS Championship) 2006 @Arkansas (SEC) Nebraska (Big XII) Notre Dame Michigan (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2007 Idaho (WAC) @Nebraska (Big XII) @Notre Dame Illinois (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2008 @Virgina (ACC) Ohio State (Big Ten) Notre Dame Penn State (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2009 San Jose State (WAC) @Ohio State @Notre Dame Boston College (ACC) (Emerald Bowl) 2010 @Hawai'i (WAC) Virgina (ACC) @Minnesota (Big Ten) Notre Dame find me another major program in a conference that schedules like we do year after year
I dunno man... Notre Dame was a scrub team many of those years... wasn't it 2003 when BCS had SOS as part of the formula and our score went down after beating them?
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On June 10 2010 11:42 mucker wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2010 11:09 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 10:51 Sadist wrote:On June 10 2010 10:45 LosingID8 wrote:On June 10 2010 10:03 Sadist wrote:Looking back at how things were before conference affiliation I liked it a lot more. Having Miami, FSU, ND, and PSU be independent was nice. It seemed like from the schedules you got a lot more big games back then. I know Miami came to Michigan twice in the 80's and Michigan also played FSU. That stuff will never happen with these huge conferences. Itll be 2 garbage teams in the beginning of the season and then conference play and then lackluster bowl games like always . has to do with the introduction of the BCS. some schools still play good OOC schedules... like USC. its nothing like it used to be. USC still plays scrubs too. The worst is when you buy season tickets and you get games like Montana State what scrubs do we play? the worst teams we play are from the WAC or MWC here are our recent OOC schedules (including bowl games): 2002 Auburn (SEC) @Colorado (Big XII) @Kansas State (Big XII) Notre Dame Iowa (Big Ten) (Orange Bowl) 2003 @Auburn (SEC) BYU (MWC) Hawai'i (WAC) @Notre Dame Michigan (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2004 vs Virginia Tech (ACC) (Neutral Site) Colorado State (WAC) @BYU (MWC) Notre Dame vs Oklahoma (Big XII) (BCS Championship) 2005 @Hawai'i (WAC) Arkansas (SEC) @Notre Dame Fresno State (WAC) Texas (Big XII) (BCS Championship) 2006 @Arkansas (SEC) Nebraska (Big XII) Notre Dame Michigan (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2007 Idaho (WAC) @Nebraska (Big XII) @Notre Dame Illinois (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2008 @Virgina (ACC) Ohio State (Big Ten) Notre Dame Penn State (Big Ten) (Rose Bowl) 2009 San Jose State (WAC) @Ohio State @Notre Dame Boston College (ACC) (Emerald Bowl) 2010 @Hawai'i (WAC) Virgina (ACC) @Minnesota (Big Ten) Notre Dame find me another major program in a conference that schedules like we do year after year I dunno man... Notre Dame was a scrub team many of those years... wasn't it 2003 when BCS had SOS as part of the formula and our score went down after beating them?
yeah but the difference is that ND is traditionally a strong team, and the USC/ND rivalry is set in stone. scheduling teams like 1st year program Georgia St (LOL BAMA), the citadel, florida atlantic, LA monroe, etc is a completely different matter since these teams have zero chance at being competitive vs a BCS level team.
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^Yeah, it's not like ND was scheduled knowing they'd suck. The rest of those moves are pretty gutsy.
Except the Rose Bowl appearances. Neutral field my ass.
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LOL
Cya National Championship. I guess you guys need Texas and Oklahoma after all.
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CA10829 Posts
hmm well obviously that sucks but i want to hear the justification from the NCAA on that. i bet USC will appeal the ruling. also nothing is official yet until the press conference so lets wait for that.
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Wow, 20+ scholarships lost.
USC sources, who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak about the situation publicly, said they were bracing for the worst. One said the school probably would utilize an appeal process.
Asked if the sanctions were appropriate, a source said, "It depends how you look at it. It is if you're a UCLA fan. Haha
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we never use up all our scholarships so i'm not sure if the scholarship reduction will matter
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