EPTOn June 04 2010 16:50 BlueRoyaL wrote:
fyi, this is just going to be me rambling on about some thoughts. Thoughts that pertain to our world we live in and call home.
1. Life
just the fact that we're living. But not only living, but that we have the power to think, to reason, to comprehend. If it weren't for these amazing capabilities that surpass "just living", we would be nothing more than just any other animal. The fact that we have the capacity and potential to learn whatever is out there (that is possible within human limits) astounds me.
2. Math
Don't get me wrong. I'm not in love w/ math or anything. But when I start to really think about it, I'm so amazed that everything or anything can be pretty much described by math. With numbers. But oh wait? numbers are finite, with boundaries (excuse my horrible math terminology) but what I mean is for example:
in the number sequence 1,2,3,4,5..., 2 does not come RIGHT after 1. in fact theres an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2. The fact that we can explain so many phenomena and other things with numbers, up to a certain degree of SigFigs is amazing. It's amazing to me because our world and reality is continuous if you observe things to the tiniest possible.
- Fractals. Okay. Honestly, I don't even know what fractals really are, i just remember seeing them around on the web somewhere and it intrigued me. From what I'm understanding, it's some pattern/shape that emerges if you "graph" some crazy math equation? (if someone can enlighten me on what it is thatd be awesome!). I was amazed that it just goes on into infinity if you zoom in, and sometimes the patterns are different, meaning an infinite amount of patterns/shapes, etc. Which brings me to:
- infinity. We're stuck in this finite world, with a finite amount of time to live. Everything we do and consume are measured in finite proportions because in our reality, "infinity" is only something we can imagine and not really experience. But the fact that we can imagine it gives me this feeling that it has some special importance for us (and that is where my religious rant will come on later)
3. Music
Oh my goodness. No idea how to start here. Imagine if our world had sound, but it wasn't possible for there to be different pitches, keys, notes, etc. We all just talked to each other in the same, boring, tone. The beauty of music really astonishes me in ways I can't even comprehend. And I've heard a lot about how music can be mathematical in a way (most commonly hearing this about classical music), can someone explain this to me? Not sure how music is mathematical, although I do believe it to be true (cuz like I stated above, im sure math can explain pretty much anything)
4. Drugs
omg! u serious? yeah, I am. I know drugs are looked down negatively by society, and I'm not arguing against that notion; I understand the negative implications drugs can have on people as individuals and as a society. But I'm a strong believer that safe, and OCCASIONAL recreational drug use can be safe and make for good experiences.
There are definitely drugs i would never EVER consider touching, but there are a few handful that I enjoy on a regular basis (wheres all my budsmokers at?? ;D)
It's just perplexing to me how different kind of drugs effect you in different ways. Some making things seem so surreal,out of the world, crazy, etc. Sometimes I've wondered if certain things you see while on it (especially hallucinogens) have some kind of significance to life, or if its merely just a product of the drug and your random subconscious.
But anyways, here I'll like to pull a quote (or what I can remember) from something I caught on a different forum not too long ago:
"If the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness doesn't include the right to experiment (safely) with your own consciousness, then the declaration of independence isn't worth any more than the hemp it was written on"
Not sure if it was really written on hemp or not, but it kinda made me smile when I read it.
5. Religion
I'm a christian. Whether or not I'm a good christian is up to the judgement of whoever, especially God. I, myself, don't believe I'm living how a christian should be, although I strongly do believe in my faith. And at this point, you may be thinking, wtf?? this guys been talkin about drugs and stuff and is now making a claim that he's a christian?
Everyone knows that how you're raised during your childhood has a big impact on your positions over various matters, over your personality, and just plain simply, on you as an individual. I was raised by parents that are both STRONG christians (my dad was a missionary to the old soviet union long time ago, etc), and they both tried their best to keep me and my brother our of trouble, and to get us to grow up according to what they believed to be "right", as justified by the bible.
But then came the problem. (Btw, this should be a note for those of you planning to raise children sometime during your life). Being overly strict and restraining on your children during your childhood can either
1. work - your child will grow up "right", however you decide
or
2. not work. As in my case. For me, as soon as I was old enough to start living more independently, I became so curious about all these things that I had previously been restricted from, that I just consumed myself in them. And now, I am at a point where I am constantly struggling to identify myself as a person, cuz I stand between my life (friends, family, etc) of "worldy" things vs who I believe I was supposed to be. I still hold on strong that this is just an experimental phase of my life, and I strongly believe that someday I will make the steps necessary to become a good christian.
But from my standpoint, to do that right now, would mean to sacrifice my youth as i understand it. People make the argument to me in church that "no, you can give up all that stuff and still live a fun, fulfilling youth". I'm not saying they're wrong, but really, I can't imagine myself giving up all the things I do right now.
But anyways, I didn't mean for this to necessarily become some kind of religious rant, but here is the BIG picture how I see it. And what I mean is, this is how I believe everything in this world works together (I know, I'm already ready for a flame fest if it occurs).
- I really do believe in God, and that he created everything.
- There are many things, that outside from what I'm taught at church, lead me to believe this.
For example, I believe since we are "made in his image", we naturally do things that he likes to do. Example: Making laws, rules, punishments/forgiving, emotions, and something kinda weird:
So God is like the ultimate engineer right? he created this crazy complex beautiful world, and we try to imitate that power when we make up different worlds in video games, stories, movies, etc. But we will never have the power to make anything truly original. Like, all the worlds we create always have gravity,which is directly biting off of something that's already there ;p
- drugs? God made them, yeah. I don't think he intended for us to really use them, or especially abuse them. But I believe there are lessons to learn. How most drugs have a "coming up" and "going down" feeling, I personally believe it relates to life on earth. Enjoying too many of these pleasures of life will ultimately result in the most ultimate, unconceivable down that's not even imaginable ;S
But yeah, wow I just wrote a lot. No, I'm not on anything right now. Just sitting here, supposed to be studying for some finals coming up, but thought I'd finally "attempt" to write down some of these thoughts I've been having in a organized way (I know, definite fail.. haha)
Yeah, so if anyone has any comments,thoughts like these they'd like to share, I'm all ears (or eyes) to listen. These kind of conversations about our world, universe, consciousness, intrigue me =)
fyi, this is just going to be me rambling on about some thoughts. Thoughts that pertain to our world we live in and call home.
1. Life
just the fact that we're living. But not only living, but that we have the power to think, to reason, to comprehend. If it weren't for these amazing capabilities that surpass "just living", we would be nothing more than just any other animal. The fact that we have the capacity and potential to learn whatever is out there (that is possible within human limits) astounds me.
2. Math
Don't get me wrong. I'm not in love w/ math or anything. But when I start to really think about it, I'm so amazed that everything or anything can be pretty much described by math. With numbers. But oh wait? numbers are finite, with boundaries (excuse my horrible math terminology) but what I mean is for example:
in the number sequence 1,2,3,4,5..., 2 does not come RIGHT after 1. in fact theres an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2. The fact that we can explain so many phenomena and other things with numbers, up to a certain degree of SigFigs is amazing. It's amazing to me because our world and reality is continuous if you observe things to the tiniest possible.
- Fractals. Okay. Honestly, I don't even know what fractals really are, i just remember seeing them around on the web somewhere and it intrigued me. From what I'm understanding, it's some pattern/shape that emerges if you "graph" some crazy math equation? (if someone can enlighten me on what it is thatd be awesome!). I was amazed that it just goes on into infinity if you zoom in, and sometimes the patterns are different, meaning an infinite amount of patterns/shapes, etc. Which brings me to:
- infinity. We're stuck in this finite world, with a finite amount of time to live. Everything we do and consume are measured in finite proportions because in our reality, "infinity" is only something we can imagine and not really experience. But the fact that we can imagine it gives me this feeling that it has some special importance for us (and that is where my religious rant will come on later)
3. Music
Oh my goodness. No idea how to start here. Imagine if our world had sound, but it wasn't possible for there to be different pitches, keys, notes, etc. We all just talked to each other in the same, boring, tone. The beauty of music really astonishes me in ways I can't even comprehend. And I've heard a lot about how music can be mathematical in a way (most commonly hearing this about classical music), can someone explain this to me? Not sure how music is mathematical, although I do believe it to be true (cuz like I stated above, im sure math can explain pretty much anything)
4. Drugs
omg! u serious? yeah, I am. I know drugs are looked down negatively by society, and I'm not arguing against that notion; I understand the negative implications drugs can have on people as individuals and as a society. But I'm a strong believer that safe, and OCCASIONAL recreational drug use can be safe and make for good experiences.
There are definitely drugs i would never EVER consider touching, but there are a few handful that I enjoy on a regular basis (wheres all my budsmokers at?? ;D)
It's just perplexing to me how different kind of drugs effect you in different ways. Some making things seem so surreal,out of the world, crazy, etc. Sometimes I've wondered if certain things you see while on it (especially hallucinogens) have some kind of significance to life, or if its merely just a product of the drug and your random subconscious.
But anyways, here I'll like to pull a quote (or what I can remember) from something I caught on a different forum not too long ago:
"If the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness doesn't include the right to experiment (safely) with your own consciousness, then the declaration of independence isn't worth any more than the hemp it was written on"
Not sure if it was really written on hemp or not, but it kinda made me smile when I read it.
5. Religion
I'm a christian. Whether or not I'm a good christian is up to the judgement of whoever, especially God. I, myself, don't believe I'm living how a christian should be, although I strongly do believe in my faith. And at this point, you may be thinking, wtf?? this guys been talkin about drugs and stuff and is now making a claim that he's a christian?
Everyone knows that how you're raised during your childhood has a big impact on your positions over various matters, over your personality, and just plain simply, on you as an individual. I was raised by parents that are both STRONG christians (my dad was a missionary to the old soviet union long time ago, etc), and they both tried their best to keep me and my brother our of trouble, and to get us to grow up according to what they believed to be "right", as justified by the bible.
But then came the problem. (Btw, this should be a note for those of you planning to raise children sometime during your life). Being overly strict and restraining on your children during your childhood can either
1. work - your child will grow up "right", however you decide
or
2. not work. As in my case. For me, as soon as I was old enough to start living more independently, I became so curious about all these things that I had previously been restricted from, that I just consumed myself in them. And now, I am at a point where I am constantly struggling to identify myself as a person, cuz I stand between my life (friends, family, etc) of "worldy" things vs who I believe I was supposed to be. I still hold on strong that this is just an experimental phase of my life, and I strongly believe that someday I will make the steps necessary to become a good christian.
But from my standpoint, to do that right now, would mean to sacrifice my youth as i understand it. People make the argument to me in church that "no, you can give up all that stuff and still live a fun, fulfilling youth". I'm not saying they're wrong, but really, I can't imagine myself giving up all the things I do right now.
But anyways, I didn't mean for this to necessarily become some kind of religious rant, but here is the BIG picture how I see it. And what I mean is, this is how I believe everything in this world works together (I know, I'm already ready for a flame fest if it occurs).
- I really do believe in God, and that he created everything.
- There are many things, that outside from what I'm taught at church, lead me to believe this.
For example, I believe since we are "made in his image", we naturally do things that he likes to do. Example: Making laws, rules, punishments/forgiving, emotions, and something kinda weird:
So God is like the ultimate engineer right? he created this crazy complex beautiful world, and we try to imitate that power when we make up different worlds in video games, stories, movies, etc. But we will never have the power to make anything truly original. Like, all the worlds we create always have gravity,which is directly biting off of something that's already there ;p
- drugs? God made them, yeah. I don't think he intended for us to really use them, or especially abuse them. But I believe there are lessons to learn. How most drugs have a "coming up" and "going down" feeling, I personally believe it relates to life on earth. Enjoying too many of these pleasures of life will ultimately result in the most ultimate, unconceivable down that's not even imaginable ;S
But yeah, wow I just wrote a lot. No, I'm not on anything right now. Just sitting here, supposed to be studying for some finals coming up, but thought I'd finally "attempt" to write down some of these thoughts I've been having in a organized way (I know, definite fail.. haha)
Yeah, so if anyone has any comments,thoughts like these they'd like to share, I'm all ears (or eyes) to listen. These kind of conversations about our world, universe, consciousness, intrigue me =)
A pothead math guy who believes in God. Ok. Also, you didn't have sex up there (virgin).
