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Flash is still bad

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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 00:13:33
May 29 2010 09:46 GMT
#1
Flash is "still bad," and his win was just a fluke.

Just kidding.

He worked hard and he deserves his title. Let's not take anything away from him by bad mouthing the games or his opponents "bad play" or make comments like "Jaedong played like crap and gave it away."

Flash outplayed JD, that was the bottom line. He outplayed him very badly. He outplayed JD in these three games just like Effort outplayed Flash in those last three games.

When you're dealing with players this caliber, series like this one and the OSL finals happen. It's not cheese or the "dirty zerg" equivalent for Terran (14cc, lol) or JD's bad strategy or choking, its just one guy being better than another on a given day. And even the best players in the world can look like bumbling newbies in the face of tremendous skill and pressure.

Glad to see him so happy after finally getting the huge monkey off his back.

****
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 29 2010 09:46 GMT
#2
t_t.. so sad i wanted a better finals like everyone else
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
May 29 2010 09:46 GMT
#3
3 x 14cc makes me feel fucking terrible
HEY MEYT
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
May 29 2010 09:47 GMT
#4
Partially outplayed, partially bad decision making by JD. I guess the pressure of the finals did its toll on him.
Anyways GG's
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
May 29 2010 09:48 GMT
#5
i still don't know how he managed to win that first game.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
May 29 2010 09:48 GMT
#6
On May 29 2010 18:47 Skvid wrote:
Partially outplayed, partially bad decision making by JD. I guess the pressure of the finals did its toll on him.
Anyways GG's

Any win by any player will partially rely on mistakes by his opponent.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Inkblood
Profile Joined February 2010
United States463 Posts
May 29 2010 09:48 GMT
#7
I agree. I was cheering for Jaedong. But Flash certainly won this convincingly, and he deserves the credit of the win.
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:49:14
May 29 2010 09:49 GMT
#8
saying flash outplayed jaedong is the same as saying jaedong played poorly
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
May 29 2010 09:50 GMT
#9
On May 29 2010 18:49 Azrael1111 wrote:
saying flash outplayed jaedong is the same as saying jaedong played poorly

Ah, but I was simply stating the difference in my opinion and Plexa's.

I do not believe Flash cheesed his way to the win through some sort of imbalanced dirty Terran play, or that somehow JD is still better than Flash because Flash used 14cc three times.

I just want to recognize that one player played better than another on a given day, and that the better player deserves his title.

^This sentence applies to both the OSL and the MSL.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 29 2010 09:51 GMT
#10
jaedong's builds were TERRIBLE i was giggling pretty hard in set 3

effort best zerg now i guess? lolol
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
May 29 2010 09:52 GMT
#11
Flash deserved it, but Jaedong simply looked sloppy in all 3 games.
I was very dissapointed in his play, and am very much hoping this isn't going to plunge him back into slumpville, but instead rocket him forwards to take the next finals.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 29 2010 09:52 GMT
#12
If you are stating that one player did in fact play better than the other I completely agree. And on that note I'd like to mention just how much less well played jaedong played. He played significantly less well than Flash imo.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
May 29 2010 09:52 GMT
#13
On May 29 2010 18:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
jaedong's builds were TERRIBLE i was giggling pretty hard in set 3

effort best zerg now i guess? lolol

I did not even dream of saying this with a straight face just four weeks ago, but this month, Effort's the best Zerg on the planet.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
May 29 2010 09:52 GMT
#14
On May 29 2010 18:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
jaedong's builds were TERRIBLE i was giggling pretty hard in set 3

effort best zerg now i guess? lolol


My thoughts during this was:
"did he practice this build vs Lomo and think to himself 'this is unbeatable!' because of that?"
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:54:32
May 29 2010 09:53 GMT
#15
On May 29 2010 18:46 Kenpachi wrote:
t_t.. so sad i wanted a better finals like everyone else

Games 1 and 3 were pretty excellent, imo.

And exactly. I hope this win puts the scene in somewhat more perspective. Flash is the best player, but he's not unbeatable, and he can be beaten by intelligent aggression. But, the same as everything else, if you let him get away with unpunished abusive economic builds, he'll win.

Is EffOrt better than Jaedong? Who the hell knows? As tonight showed, they're completely different players. And we don't need to know at all. It's not important.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
May 29 2010 09:53 GMT
#16
I agree. Flash really deserved this win.
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
May 29 2010 09:53 GMT
#17
On May 29 2010 18:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
jaedong's builds were TERRIBLE i was giggling pretty hard in set 3

effort best zerg now i guess? lolol


No kidding. Set 3 was the most exciting of the games, there was this moment when the hydra bust seemed really strong, and it was. Too bad he didn't know when to quit.

I'm really disappointed. Oh well.
pshych0
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
274 Posts
May 29 2010 09:53 GMT
#18
[B]

effort best zerg now i guess? lolol


yeah lulz
shit happens
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
May 29 2010 09:53 GMT
#19
No one seems to care about JD`s build in the first set. I went crazy when I saw it. Still tough, completely outplayed.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
May 29 2010 09:54 GMT
#20
I thought Flash's MnM/Vessel control was pretty bad on fighting spirit, but he was already pretty far ahead from the 14 cc despite jaedong going 3 hatch before pool.
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