[OSL] Unbelievable - Page 2

On May 22 2010 22:34 OneFierceZealot wrote:
can the bonjwa talks be over now? please god yes.

On May 22 2010 22:42 Musoeun wrote:


...What if he rapes JD next week?

On May 22 2010 22:06 ProoM wrote:
A-move rines against zergling all in, then fail proxy rax in the middle of the map and let 1 zerglings scout all your tech buildings, then let overlord spot your dropships and still drop w/o caring. Then do a 14 cc TvZ on Match Point w/o even proper walling against zergling all in, and that's how you do it ^_^

On May 22 2010 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:

lol Flash "let" the overlord spot his drop. just like Effort "let" Flash scan his hold lurkers and scourge positions in game 2.

Effort played horrible in game 1 and 2, imo he was even or ahead in both games and then threw it away.

On May 23 2010 00:46 tonight wrote:
I wanted to see him get that Golden Mouse so bad, but everything I've read up on for the match seems like the games were a bit lack luster in terms of pure skill.

On May 23 2010 00:35 Kenpachi wrote:
Well, flash got arrogant AGAIN. His cockyness was shown in his game vs effort in PL. This time, he felt he can win because he thought he crushed Effort's heart. Effort is a baller.

On May 23 2010 01:12 IdrA wrote:

its not cocky, its not arrogant, its not flash losing focus and its not stupid of him to take risks. terran is fragile. playing to minimize losses can work to an extent, if you're good enough. look at all the solid terrans there have been, people like midas and hwasin, theyre ridiculously good. they won, alot. they never won a title. because once you start playing against bisu and jaedong and effort, if you play to not lose you have no chance because that style can be abused very hard. thats why flash has always been able to win, he is one of the best mechanically anyway, but he takes risks. theyre normally very well calculated and based on scouting and knowledge, not pure luck, but they are risks none the less and sometimes that backfires and you look stupid no matter who you are.
flash won game 2 cuz he left his base relatively open while mutas are out and goes to pressure effort's third. at that point hes way, way behind and if the attack doesnt go his way hes dead, but if he doesnt do anything with the situation hes in a lot of trouble anyway. so he takes his chance, and it works. game 4, if he just sits back and tries to turtle up effort runs him ragged with muta micro, given how fast mutas come off that build and the setup of fighting spirit. so he pushes out right before mutas will be out to try to pressure, hoping to catch effort off guard and force a sunken or lings, anything to lessen the effect of the mutas. but efforts prepared for this and it doesnt work. in both games hes in a tough situation and takes a risk to try to turn it in his favor. one game he looks great, the other he looks retarded.
a more conservative player will sit back and turret up both games, he doesnt run the risk of dying immediately and he doesnt end up looking stupid and getting criticized. but hes never gonna win a starleague.

On May 23 2010 01:12 IdrA wrote:

its not cocky, its not arrogant, its not flash losing focus and its not stupid of him to take risks. terran is fragile. playing to minimize losses can work to an extent, if you're good enough. look at all the solid terrans there have been, people like midas and hwasin, theyre ridiculously good. they won, alot. they never won a title. because once you start playing against bisu and jaedong and effort, if you play to not lose you have no chance because that style can be abused very hard. thats why flash has always been able to win, he is one of the best mechanically anyway, but he takes risks. theyre normally very well calculated and based on scouting and knowledge, not pure luck, but they are risks none the less and sometimes that backfires and you look stupid no matter who you are.
flash won game 2 cuz he left his base relatively open while mutas are out and goes to pressure effort's third. at that point hes way, way behind and if the attack doesnt go his way hes dead, but if he doesnt do anything with the situation hes in a lot of trouble anyway. so he takes his chance, and it works. game 4, if he just sits back and tries to turtle up effort runs him ragged with muta micro, given how fast mutas come off that build and the setup of fighting spirit. so he pushes out right before mutas will be out to try to pressure, hoping to catch effort off guard and force a sunken or lings, anything to lessen the effect of the mutas. but efforts prepared for this and it doesnt work. in both games hes in a tough situation and takes a risk to try to turn it in his favor. one game he looks great, the other he looks retarded.
a more conservative player will sit back and turret up both games, he doesnt run the risk of dying immediately and he doesnt end up looking stupid and getting criticized. but hes never gonna win a starleague.

On May 23 2010 01:24 Hot_Bid wrote:

Can you give us a bit of description of the atmosphere at the CJ house after Effort won?

CJ fans would really appreciate it, as the streams cut out a lot of the post game stuff, and the OSL had to hurry everything because the beginning was delayed so long.

What was Coach Cho's reaction? The other players?

Thanks in advance.

On May 23 2010 01:30 IdrA wrote:

i dunno i couldnt go with them cuz i was playing in a chinese sc2 tourny today