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I wish to watch Kim Carrier cry tonight.

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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
May 22 2010 05:42 GMT
#1
Originally I was going to sleep. OSL finals is cool and all, but it's not like the MSL finals or anything. So originally, I planned on just going to sleep, waking up, and catching the games.

Then I watched this week's "Back Talk" between the commentators. The commentators present this week was Kim Carrier, Uhm JaeGyung, and Kingdom. They talked about the match rigging scandals of course.

I won't go into details -- you guys should be able to watch it yourselves soon. But the what really got me is how near the end, it's literally just watching then grovel, sucking up all their pride, all their shame, all their anger, and just begging for forgiveness.

You know how when you did something really bad to someone else, and your parents has to come? And you know how your parents are probably REALLY pissed at you, but they don't show that -- their first emotion they feel is that they have failed as a parent, and that they have to just be so apologetic towards the other party... they're angry, but they just can't show it. They just want their child forgiven, and wish to bear whatever they can on themselves.

Watching these commentators just talk was exactly like that. JaeGyung used the exact same analogy, and by the end I was just so convinced that these commentators literally viewed the sports as their child, and wished to just bear whatever shame for it's forgiveness.

Kim Carrier just spent so much time, begging, pleading with the fans to just come show up to today's OSL finals. I was originally going to sleep -- but now, I'll be staying awake. Why? I want to see Kim Carrier cry -- I want to see that Hangar completely full of people, cheering for their players, for E-Sports, and I just want this to be an event, a sign that the fans have forgiven E-Sports so that it can grow in the future, and I want to see their faces, I want to see the players' faces, as they just see that their fans are there supporting them.

Here's hoping for a good Finals tonight.

****
Jerebread
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada115 Posts
May 22 2010 05:45 GMT
#2
On May 22 2010 14:42 Milkis wrote:
OSL finals is cool and all, but it's not like the MSL finals or anything.


Can you expand on that?
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
May 22 2010 05:46 GMT
#3
On May 22 2010 14:45 Jerebread wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 14:42 Milkis wrote:
OSL finals is cool and all, but it's not like the MSL finals or anything.


Can you expand on that?


Haha, I was referring to the players playing on the finals.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
May 22 2010 05:49 GMT
#4
Good write. Thanks for writing. Hope it's good attendance. Go EffOrt!
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 05:51:11
May 22 2010 05:51 GMT
#5
well put. 5/5
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 22 2010 05:55 GMT
#6
I thought this was gonna be a reference to how Kim Carrier LB'ed on effort... and how you were going to gloat over him cursing another up and coming star yet again xD
Hey! Listen!
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 22 2010 06:14 GMT
#7
On May 22 2010 14:55 Navi wrote:
I thought this was gonna be a reference to how Kim Carrier LB'ed on effort... and how you were going to gloat over him cursing another up and coming star yet again xD

same here... thought this was about the dreaded curse
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
LoStYouRSkiLLS
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia223 Posts
May 22 2010 07:01 GMT
#8
Fair call, however because of this I think this OSL final in particular deserves more than it's gonna get from the fans.
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
May 22 2010 07:12 GMT
#9
On May 22 2010 14:46 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 14:45 Jerebread wrote:
On May 22 2010 14:42 Milkis wrote:
OSL finals is cool and all, but it's not like the MSL finals or anything.


Can you expand on that?


Haha, I was referring to the players playing on the finals.

uhm.. OSL = Flash vs Effort
MSL = Flash vs Jaedong


ill go for the latter
cw)minsean(ru
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 22 2010 07:21 GMT
#10
Man it´s just the Korean drama, get used to it
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MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
May 22 2010 07:36 GMT
#11
Sorry if this was posted in another thread but where can I watch "back talk?" Is it on youtube or do you live in korea and watched it.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
May 22 2010 07:40 GMT
#12
On May 22 2010 16:12 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 14:46 Milkis wrote:
On May 22 2010 14:45 Jerebread wrote:
On May 22 2010 14:42 Milkis wrote:
OSL finals is cool and all, but it's not like the MSL finals or anything.


Can you expand on that?


Haha, I was referring to the players playing on the finals.

uhm.. OSL = Flash vs Effort
MSL = Flash vs Jaedong


ill go for the latter

Yeah just like the last Flash dual finals

oh wait

MSL fucked up and made an epic series to a fuckfest of boredom.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 22 2010 08:03 GMT
#13
On May 22 2010 16:36 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Sorry if this was posted in another thread but where can I watch "back talk?" Is it on youtube or do you live in korea and watched it.

this weeks back talk aired just last night and im pretty sure nobody is translating it, but I can direct you to a torrent if you can understand korean.
Translator
eXNewB
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada291 Posts
May 22 2010 08:34 GMT
#14
I'm working night shift

which means I'll be getting paid to watch Flash destroy Effort, MAHAHAH
THERES NO WAY HE CAN STOP THOSE HYDRAS!
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
May 22 2010 08:45 GMT
#15
On May 22 2010 16:12 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 14:46 Milkis wrote:
On May 22 2010 14:45 Jerebread wrote:
On May 22 2010 14:42 Milkis wrote:
OSL finals is cool and all, but it's not like the MSL finals or anything.


Can you expand on that?


Haha, I was referring to the players playing on the finals.

uhm.. OSL = Flash vs Effort
MSL = Flash vs Jaedong


ill go for the latter


That was his point. MSL equals more exciting players to watch -_-. You're actually agreeing with him.
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Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
May 22 2010 08:50 GMT
#16
who is kim carrier
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 22 2010 09:22 GMT
#17
Commentator who was almost always wrong on his predictions, hence the "kim carrier" curse.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
LoStYouRSkiLLS
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia223 Posts
May 22 2010 10:49 GMT
#18
Aren't you glad you stayed up?
Terror Australis [ http://www.clan-ta.com ] - TALoSt - http://www.twitch.tv/LoStYouRSkiLLs
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
May 22 2010 11:01 GMT
#19
very nice! long live esports!
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
May 22 2010 11:14 GMT
#20
On May 22 2010 19:49 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote:
Aren't you glad you stayed up?


haha
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