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{CC}StealthBlue
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I thought it was interesting how a Tea Party candidate trounced the Republican last night, even though not as a third party candidate just a more conservative one. But this I found just crazy, and only on Day 1 he has drawn controversy, and I really don't know what to think about it. I mean when I think about his father I don't think of racism, but his son on the other hand might not be so lucky. So what do you think? edit: Sorry *Rand   | ||
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Alizee-
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Salv
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
gogo gary becker | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Those are very good points, and true I guess true freedom is allowing anyone to be an idiot but also be willing to accept the consequences. But wouldn't this view be better, for political purposes, kept to yourself? Personally, I think other people in his party have said things which would have been much better kept to themselves. To me, this isn't controversial and he's making a fair point.  | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Jibba if you read this i need an explanation :p | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Those are very good points, and true I guess true freedom is allowing anyone to be an idiot but also be willing to accept the consequences. But wouldn't this view be better, for political purposes, kept to yourself? Not in this case. Rand Paul is very libertarian, and I give him a lot of credit for letting it be publicly known that his libertarian views extend to issues in which the libertarian view is deeply unpopular. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Those are very good points, and true I guess true freedom is allowing anyone to be an idiot but also be willing to accept the consequences. But wouldn't this view be better, for political purposes, kept to yourself? Rand Paul seems 'real' to me, much like his father. I appreciate that both of these politicians lay it out there for every one to see. You truly know what you're getting when voting for a Paul I feel. Ron gained some controversy when the media tried to spin his answers to suggest that terrorists were right to attack the USA. All he was trying to say was that we (USA, I am Canadian ) cannot ignore the reasons that the USA was attacked, and that that ignorance is a problem. | ||
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Sadist
United States7292 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:00 Caller wrote: just take comfort in the fact that the non-discriminating firms will drive the discriminating ones out of the market gogo gary becker The South had nearly 100 years with Jim Crow laws that mandated racial segregation in the public sphere, and permitted it in the private sphere. When were discriminatory firms driven out of the market? | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:09 Boblion wrote: You don't have that right. AA exists partly as welfare and partly because diversity has an unquantifiable value to organizations. People think it's the politically correct thing to do, but research is showing that it's the beneficial thing to do for the organization. It only becomes an issue in near-equal candidates anyways.What an amazing country. Ethnic quotas in universities but you have the right to not hire people because they have the wrong colour. Jibba if you read this i need an explanation :p The posts up top about true freedom are laughable, even if they're technically true. Preston Brooks had the freedom to beat Charles Sumner on the Senate floor, just as he had the freedom to restrict the freedom of other human beings. Public policy exists for the good of humanity. Ayn Rand-ish anarchic utopias are bullshit, and anyone who believes in them is retarded. Things don't gradually improve on their own, and it is possible for a group in power to remain in power. No amount of 'free-ness' can change that. That belief is predicated on the false notion of universal rightness and wrongness, that is, without intervention, the general public will see that racism is wrong and will change their views. It's pretty fucking easy to socialize people to belief that racism is perfectly fine. Not to mention, it puts faith in a long term solution, which has never been proven to come true, and it should be pretty obvious through reductio ad absurdum why "in the long run..." can be ridiculous. That's why you try to maintain balance. Even the Romans understood that. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:25 Mindcrime wrote: The South had nearly 100 years with Jim Crow laws that mandated racial segregation in the public sphere, and permitted it in the private sphere. When were discriminatory firms driven out of the market? Hell, let's forget about racism and make it purely economic. What about sharecropping? How does that cycle end when you prevent government regulations? 2, 3, 7 generations? That's the kind of shit that makes Marxism appealing to idiots like baal. As for the video, I have no problem with what he said. I think he's hopelessly wrong, just like his father often is, but I respect him for answering that question honestly and partially attempting to avoid "the game." He's still a GOP candidate, however, and he lets conservative social views override his liberalism, so it's not like he's an all-around libertarian champion. I think it's pretty clear for both of them that their religion affects their policy (which is unavoidable.) What's most amusing is his ability to undermine the Republican party. The old guard, including McConnell is already starting to crumble. If it keeps up, I don't see any way that Obama can lose in two years. It'll be like Clinton in '92. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7816 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:35 Jibba wrote: Hell, let's forget about racism and make it purely economic. What about sharecropping? How does that cycle end when you prevent government regulations? 2, 3, 7 generations? That's the kind of shit that makes Marxism appealing to idiots like baal. lol nice. Makes me wanna go see what's up at LP | ||
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QuanticHawk
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Jibba
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I bet he would've, however. Saying that is one thing, but I think for any of us that abhor racism, if you lived in the 1950s and saw what went on, it would be difficult to direct your moral compass away from it or believe things would get better without the CRA. | ||
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Tuneful
United States327 Posts
As for Rand, it's nice to see some kind of bottom-up undermining of established Republicans, especially Mitch McConnell. However, it's replacing one evil with a worse evil, I think. | ||
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KOFgokuon
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Jibba
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{CC}StealthBlue
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