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RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
May 09 2010 08:16 GMT
#1
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 09 2010 08:21 GMT
#2
From what i heard they overheat more too lol.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
May 09 2010 08:53 GMT
#3
i think i should update my videocard (geforce 7300)
HEY MEYT
BluApex
Profile Joined May 2010
United States26 Posts
May 09 2010 08:55 GMT
#4
I havent had any problems with mine
I wanna be the very best
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 09 2010 08:59 GMT
#5
Well at least the GTX480 and 470 allow nvidia to be competitive now. Who knows, maybe when nvidia's future mid-end card (GTX460, 450 maybe?) will be competitive with ATI's 5770.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
May 09 2010 09:35 GMT
#6
Game over for Nvidia.
wsrgry
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
May 09 2010 11:33 GMT
#7
It would be nice if AMD/ATI is doing just as well with their CPU, giving Intel more competition.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 09 2010 12:00 GMT
#8
On May 09 2010 18:35 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
Game over for Nvidia.


Please don't post Charlie-links in this forum.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
May 09 2010 17:25 GMT
#9
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JustOnePost
Profile Joined May 2010
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 17:38:16
May 09 2010 17:34 GMT
#10
On May 09 2010 18:35 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
Game over for Nvidia.

They said that with the FX 5000 series. Guess who is still here?

Nvidia is perfectly fine because it still has the GF104 line of cards waiting and the GTX 470 is not as bad as people think at the moment because the HD 5850 is just so goddamn expensive compared to the GTX 470.

Wait for the GTX 460, GTX 450 or whatever that will run on the GF104 core. It should hit ATi's weakspot in the 5830, 5770 line as well as pressure the HD 5850 even more.

AMD CPUs will be competitive next year depending on whether or not Bulldozer is a success.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
May 09 2010 17:44 GMT
#11
Nvidia is in a terrible situation.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 09 2010 18:11 GMT
#12
On May 09 2010 18:35 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
Game over for Nvidia.

Like i said Quoting Charlie is like Quoting Faud except the bais is reversed, and frankly Charlie has more knowledge and doesn't sound like a dumbass when speaking.

On May 10 2010 02:34 JustOnePost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 18:35 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
Game over for Nvidia.

They said that with the FX 5000 series. Guess who is still here?

Nvidia is perfectly fine because it still has the GF104 line of cards waiting and the GTX 470 is not as bad as people think at the moment because the HD 5850 is just so goddamn expensive compared to the GTX 470.

Wait for the GTX 460, GTX 450 or whatever that will run on the GF104 core. It should hit ATi's weakspot in the 5830, 5770 line as well as pressure the HD 5850 even more.

AMD CPUs will be competitive next year depending on whether or not Bulldozer is a success.

GTX 460 is actually GF100 chip, it basically like a 5830 a ultra crippled high end chip lol, ofc it's all about how they disable and handle it we all know the GF100 is an under-performing set up right now it's not really even close to the projected clocks and runs too hot and consumes too much energy which would be solved with a die shrink but that's about a year away.

The GTS will likely be a sign that it's a GF104

I would like nvidia to push out the 5830 and 5770 cleanly, frankly the 5770 is trash for the same price as last gen it's not as good like everyone i blame the cheaper memory bus, and the 5830 is just too high in price for it's performance.

Right now nvidia holds it at 470 vs 5850 it's a matter of cost in the US either way is just about fine.

When you get up to 2x 5850 v 2x 470 470 wins easy due to sli scaling being the boss compared to ati's. Same shit happens when you get to 2x5870 vs 2x480 the 480 pulls ahead for being a high end product that frankly just beats the 5870 by a large margin so much so that it's cost per frame is less then the 5870 at that point. But the single 5870 vs 480 is not so great cost per frame etc.

ramble ramble ramble
JustOnePost
Profile Joined May 2010
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 18:17:23
May 09 2010 18:15 GMT
#13
I don't like the GTX 480 at all to be honest. It should have been around $450 for its performance level, but at $500 it is far too steep. I know in Europe the GTX 470 is around the same price as the HD 5870, which makes it completely uncompetitive, but in the USA a $30-40 difference for the amazing AA performance and SLI scaling makes the HD 5850 rather hopeless (especially now that nonreference GTX 470s are coming).

I was under the impression that the GTX 460 would use the GF104 core ;_; I also remember reading that there will be no reference model. While I like nonreference, I'm not sure if I can trust Nvidia's partners with a nonreference model that quickly considering how much heat those cores produce.

I'm looking forward to seeing MSI's nonreference Frozer though.

Hopefully Nvidia can push out the 5750, 5770, and 5830. Three mediocre cards dominating the market T_____T
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 18:22:56
May 09 2010 18:21 GMT
#14
5770 maybe i don't think too many ppl would buy the 5750 and 5830 i mean dx 11 for those cards is hardly a feature, only thing worthy of it would be the eyefinity which would be for work not for gaming as it would probably set those cards on fire lol.

Yup MSRP is nice in the US for new tech, sad part after transporting it to Europe taxes etc for europe it usually follows say MSRP of $370 for US would = 370 euros for Europe which with current conversion mean you lost out big time lol.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 18:22:30
May 09 2010 18:21 GMT
#15
The 5770 ~ 4870 with less heat / noise / Watts + Dx11.
That's pretty good imo. I wasn't a big fan of the 5770 when you could still get 4870 for less, but now the prices are really attractive.

But yea i don't like the 5830.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 09 2010 18:29 GMT
#16
On May 10 2010 03:21 Boblion wrote:
The 5770 ~ 4870 with less heat / noise / Watts + Dx11.
That's pretty good imo. I wasn't a big fan of the 5770 when you could still get 4870 for less, but now the prices are really attractive.

But yea i don't like the 5830.

5770 + dx11 = lol where did my frame rate goe

Also the 5770 < 4870

in performance.

the watts is becuase 1 the 5770 clocks down super aggressively into a barely on state when not under load, and has a lower max load, which also makes it quieter while not under load, but at load heat and noise is about preferences it produces about the same amount of heat as the fan settings lets it go up to 75c before being aggressive.

noise is about performances too. Most people will say the 5870 vs 480 the 480 is loud yeah but no any louder then a 260 or a 4870, but they also say the 480 has a much lower tone to it then the 5870 which has a buzzing sound to it's fan etc. things aren't so cut and dry when you talk about sound.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 18:44:17
May 09 2010 18:40 GMT
#17
On May 10 2010 03:29 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 03:21 Boblion wrote:
The 5770 ~ 4870 with less heat / noise / Watts + Dx11.
That's pretty good imo. I wasn't a big fan of the 5770 when you could still get 4870 for less, but now the prices are really attractive.

But yea i don't like the 5830.

5770 + dx11 = lol where did my frame rate goe

Also the 5770 < 4870


Well that's true in some Dx11 games. The 4870 1GB usually has a small edge but i also can find some games where the 5770 is ahead.

Also you can play Dx11 games with a 5770 if you don't have a huge res or if you don't have AA at max.

I mean playing Dirt 2 with ~ 40 fps isn't THAT bad.

Really i don't know why people hate this card when you can get it for 150$. I mean when it was released i was really convinced that the cheaper 4870s were a better deal but now ...
lulz
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
JustOnePost
Profile Joined May 2010
15 Posts
May 09 2010 18:51 GMT
#18
I don't hate the card

I'm just disappointed by it.

It's really only an option because 4870s are going out of stock and GTX 260s have an artificial shortage placed on them.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 18:59:50
May 09 2010 18:57 GMT
#19
You must be extremely disappointed by Nvidia so.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 09 2010 19:04 GMT
#20
On May 10 2010 03:51 JustOnePost wrote:
I don't hate the card

I'm just disappointed by it.

It's really only an option because 4870s are going out of stock and GTX 260s have an artificial shortage placed on them.

Lol yes the artificial shortage of them not being made anymore.
JustOnePost
Profile Joined May 2010
15 Posts
May 09 2010 19:08 GMT
#21
On May 10 2010 03:57 Boblion wrote:
You must be extremely disappointed by Nvidia so.


Considering the performance of the GTX 470 relative to the US price, I have to say that I'm not.
AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
May 09 2010 19:09 GMT
#22
On May 09 2010 18:35 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
Game over for Nvidia.


Woah! Just last night, I thought you were not a biased reviewer? What happened? Hmm. Quite odd wouldn't you say?
Is it in you?
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
May 09 2010 19:10 GMT
#23
you should check out the sticker that comes with the gtx its funny
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