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LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 30 2010 07:14 GMT
#21
Is 6 the minimum number of swaps needed? It seems that based on what we know about the number of pieces that are correct that it should be possible in either 4 or 5 swaps.

Are you defining swaps as only horizontal + vertical or is diagonal allowed? IE To switch block 1 code 1 with block 3 code 2, would you need to go through block 1 code 3 or could you just swap them directly?
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
April 30 2010 07:20 GMT
#22
omfg
I just realized there are 3 possible starters, which makes it soo many more possibilities.
Gave up again.
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
April 30 2010 07:22 GMT
#23
nah theres 6 i think since he could've swapped in between the two keys as well
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
April 30 2010 07:25 GMT
#24
I'm trying to write a program to solve this entire thing, finding all possibilities then elimiating all the ones that can't work due to clues. I really hope they aren't revealed before I'm done... if I ever manage to finish!
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
April 30 2010 07:26 GMT
#25
No I mean, he added +12 for the first one so the only possible starters are:
X4WDWZ
YPR7MX
VV9EPE

But I missed the Y one when I first looked, which meant that I thought there were 2 and because there were only 2 codes each one had to be a starter. With 3 like this one 2 of them are starters and the other is normal, so you have to go through all the possibilities. :/
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
April 30 2010 07:31 GMT
#26
one more hint...
Translator
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
April 30 2010 07:33 GMT
#27
I'm so confused now ~_~.
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
April 30 2010 07:36 GMT
#28
i was trying out different keys and missed the BETA KEY INSIDE thread -_-
Translator
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
April 30 2010 07:38 GMT
#29
On April 30 2010 16:36 rotinegg wrote:
i was trying out different keys and missed the BETA KEY INSIDE thread -_-

Didn't you get one earlier today anyway?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
April 30 2010 07:40 GMT
#30
On April 30 2010 16:38 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 16:36 rotinegg wrote:
i was trying out different keys and missed the BETA KEY INSIDE thread -_-

Didn't you get one earlier today anyway?

It didn't work... It's giving me a "An error has occurred while claiming this key" message :[ I think somebody took it. so I'm back to scavenging now >:l
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Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
April 30 2010 07:50 GMT
#31
Hmm.. I only just spotted this. Gonna give this a go after finishing up my work task. If no one claims them yet.
"Eyes in the sky."
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 08:43:28
April 30 2010 08:40 GMT
#32
Last hints
First code does not contain a Z
Second code does not contain an R
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
wongi
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia86 Posts
April 30 2010 08:58 GMT
#33
its still difficult to crack
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 09:42:14
April 30 2010 09:00 GMT
#34
I'm finally done the program that finds every single possible key!
It's already 5 AM, so tomorrow if I have time I will modify it to apply the hints. Right now, none of the hints are taken into account.
Here it is, written in matlab, for anyone who cares:

+ Show Spoiler +


clear all;clc;
A=['RXWFGX' 'X4WDWZ' 'JBGYJZ' 'HV9EPE' 'YPR7MX' 'H764TR'];
B=['WR8E' 'WBH7' 'EH7Y' 'D6KD'];
g=int16(4);h=int16(6);
CC=int16(1);C=CC;
M=int16(zeros(24,4));N=int16(zeros(720,6));
for a=int16(1):h
b=int16(1);
while (b<=h)
while (b==a)
b=b+1;
end
c=int16(1);
while (c<=h)
while (c==b) || (c==a)
c=c+1;
end
d=int16(1);
while (d<=h)
while (d==a) || (d==b) || (d==c)
d=d+1;
end
e=int16(1);
while (e<=h)
while (e==a) || (e==b) || (e==c) || (e==d)
e=e+1;
end
f=int16(1);
while (f<h)
while (f==a) || (f==b) || (f==c) || (f==d) || (f==e)
f=f+1;
end
if b>h || c>h || d>h || e>h || f>h
break
end
N(CC,:)=[a b c d e f];
f=f+1;CC=CC+1;
end
e=e+1;
end
d=d+1;
end
c=c+1;
end
b=b+1;
end
end
for m=int16(1):g
n=int16(1);
while (n<=g)
while (n==m)
n=n+1;
end
o=int16(1);
while (o<=g)
while (o==m) || (o==n)
o=o+1;
end
p=int16(1);
while (p<g)
while (p==n) || (p==m) || (p==o)
p=p+1;
end
if p>g || n>g || o>g
break
end
M(C,:)=[m n o p];
p=p+1;C=C+1;
end
o=o+1;
end
n=n+1;
end
end
filename='betakey.txt';
fid = fopen(filename, 'w');
for i=1:24
for j=1:720
a=(N(j,1)*6-5);b=(N(j,2)*6-5);c=(N(j,3)*6-5);d=(N(j,4)*6-5);e=(N(j,5)*6-5);f=(N(j,6)*6-5);
m=(M(i,1)*4-3);n=(M(i,2)*4-3);o=(M(i,3)*4-3);p=(M(i,4)*4-3);
K1(1,:)=[A(a:a+5) B(m:m+3) A(b:b+5) B(n:n+3) A(c:c+5)];
K2(1,:)=[A(d:d+5) B(o:o+3) A(e:e+5) B(p:p+3) A(f:f+5)];
fprintf(fid,'K1: %s\r\n',K1);
fprintf(fid,'K2: %s\r\n\r\n',K2);
end
end
fclose(fid);
%inlagdsil, April 30 2010


You are welcome to use this to help you find the keys, on condition that you share one with me!

EDIT: TL formatting got rid of tabs and added smileys!
Considering how many more hints there are now than when I first started, this program seems kind of superfluous...

REDIT: Thanks CM for showing me how to format this properly!
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
April 30 2010 09:01 GMT
#35
You really shouldn't make something like this if you have a poor understanding of combinatorics.
No I'm never serious.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 09:02:57
April 30 2010 09:02 GMT
#36
WOW AFTER ALL THAT SEARCHING JV9EPE-WBH7-JBGYJZ-D6KD-X4WDWZ AND MPR7MX-WR8E-H764TR-EH7Y-FXWFGX ARE ALREADY CLAIMED FML IM GOING TO SLEEP T_T
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inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
April 30 2010 09:05 GMT
#37
On April 30 2010 18:02 rotinegg wrote:
WOW AFTER ALL THAT SEARCHING JV9EPE-WBH7-JBGYJZ-D6KD-X4WDWZ AND MPR7MX-WR8E-H764TR-EH7Y-FXWFGX ARE ALREADY CLAIMED FML IM GOING TO SLEEP T_T

Wait, you found them?
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
Ivs
Profile Joined January 2008
Australia139 Posts
April 30 2010 09:07 GMT
#38
Yeah I got one of them, not sure who has the other though.
Delvin
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland141 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 09:10:07
April 30 2010 09:09 GMT
#39
Also wrote a program (focusing only on the second key to save time), but was too late :/
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 09:11:24
April 30 2010 09:11 GMT
#40
On April 30 2010 18:07 Ivs wrote:
Yeah I got one of them, not sure who has the other though.

Can you post the one you found?

EDIT: btw congratulations!!
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
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