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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 07:17:41
April 24 2010 07:13 GMT
#1
This is something I have never done before. I don’t know what the consequences of my actions will be, or where my actions will take me. I don’t know if it is going to change me as a person or if it will dissuade my participation of following the professional starcraft scene. All I know that it is done, and what is to come, will come.

SKT has been the team that I have supported since day one. The reason behind this was a shallow one; I was a by.fantasy fan. Was. The first live stream match I ever watched on teamliquid was the 2008 Incruit OnGameNet Starleague finals: fantasy vs stork. Being a terran player, I instinctively cheered for fantasy. Also, being constantly crushed in TvP on iccup influenced me to smile when dragoons melted and zealots vaporised into thin air.

The first two games were disappointing to watch for a fantasy fan as many of you well know. The first game showcasing some exquisite cheese, but on the same tack, poor adaption by fantasy. Not that I really thought he adapted badly then, I was busy screaming how imba zealots are. The next two games made me happy. Fantasy managed to barge his way into two wins, deflected a reaver harass extremely well.

The last game, despite its result, did not particularly upset me. While watching, I read the comments in the live stream and soon discovered that this was fantasy’s first osl and that he was a ‘royal roader’. Then I also learned of the second place curse of Stork’s. Still rooting for fantasy, the last game finished with a mighty clash, lots of storms and a definite winner.

Happy with second place:
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It was from this time forward that I began to follow the starcraft scene. I made a teamliquid account around this time, or several months after (iirc) and made SKT my team. For the sole purpose of fantasy. I didn’t know who Bisu was, and Boxer was still on Ace.

Over the months I familiarised myself with the pro scene, watching old vods, browsing through tl and watching almost every video uploaded by jon747. The following osl was promising for fantasy, and despite taking the first two games against jaedong in the final, he still lost. Disheartened, but determined I continued to root for fantasy.

Without looking at the stats, fantasy continued his strong play for several months, before beginning to lose more than he was winning. I stuck with him through thick-and-thin, me being a firm believer in not switching teams or favourite players light-heartedly. Despite supporting SKT, I was not a Bisu fanboy at all, in actual fact, I preferred (and still do prefer) to watch Best’s protoss play. [random note: And what’s with Bisu slumping just before fantasy pl and and then wining? Anti teams are so fickle]

It would be good for me to point out that throughout this time, I had my eye on WeMade Fox. Despite having Shine in their lineup (I hate Shine, just look at his face. It makes me want to punch something) I enjoyed watching all of their players. Nada is simply incredible, Pure (while angering me in one game against fantasy, and imo, showing protoss’ how to deflect fantasy’s harrasive style) plays very cleanly, Baby is now quickly becoming my favourite player and Midas and Mind to boot makes me like WeMade. Having a strong terran lineup makes me like it even more.

The rise of a legend?
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Recently, fantasy hasn’t been playing the best. Bisu’s slump and Best’s lacklustre proleague performances gives me the feeling that SKT has lost, or is losing, its spark. This is sad, because I’ve cheered for them for over a year now. But, like the saying says, ‘Not all progaming teams can stay dominate for a long period of time, despite fanboys’ wishes they do so’.

I’m not one to change teams. I think it is poor practice and don’t condone it. However, from this day forward, I will support WeMade Fox. I sever my ties with SKT, I have lost faith in fantasy’s ability to play the game as he did in ’08-’09 and am being impressed with each game that Baby plays. Unless Boxer and iloveoov come out of retirement, I feel no buzz for supporting SKT. Even when they win, it feels hollow.

So there we have it. The pixels in my signature will change, and that is the end of that. Edit: Just noticed I'm not getting a team logo down there. Hmm.

Cheerio.


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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
April 24 2010 07:36 GMT
#2
hes not taking down flash yet
8==========))
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
April 24 2010 07:42 GMT
#3
Sad that you're switching... but there are more rising stars out there... and I think Wemade is a good choice to support
TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 08:21:16
April 24 2010 08:04 GMT
#4
Boxer is not retired hes still in SKT he just busy with the ladies.
Never give up
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 24 2010 08:37 GMT
#5
FELLOW SHINE HATER! <3
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 24 2010 09:51 GMT
#6
Wait...you keep saying how you don't easily switch teams but you're supporting WeMade because fantasy sucks now?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
April 24 2010 10:07 GMT
#7
I recently made the switch from CJ to Stars, after months of thought (it's not due to their recent success, mind you - it's a move I've been thinking of since the beginning of the season.) I loved CJ, and still do. My favorite players, along with Skyhigh and Savior, were Kwanro, Much, and Iris. I cried a bit inside the moment I found out CJ was losing two of my favorite players at the same time. I thought about switching teams then, but the only other player I really knew on Stars was Zero, whom I also really liked watching, but I didn't think it was enough for the switch.

The last few months have not been kind to CJ fans. The three powerhouses were doing relatively well for awhile, but now they're all in a bit of a funk, with Skyhigh faring worst of all, and Savior is now a B-teamer. I still root for CJ, and would consider myself a fan (of the current team - I'll always love Entus), but over the months I came to find myself rooting for Stars more; I'd stay up to watch all their games, where unless it was against a particularly good team, I wasn't as upset if I missed a CJ set.

I know what you mean about switching teams, though. I see people who cycle through a team every few months, or go from one team to a third in a month. Even if it is just a small little icon that shows where one's loyalties lie, it wasn't an easy decision for me to make.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 24 2010 10:38 GMT
#8
would be interesting to see what you do if fantasy starts dominating again.
Brood War loyalist
ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
April 24 2010 10:41 GMT
#9
Would've rated it a five if it weren't for the shine hate.
아나코자본주의
The_Australian
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia458 Posts
April 24 2010 13:48 GMT
#10
On April 24 2010 19:07 So no fek wrote:
I recently made the switch from CJ to Stars, after months of thought (it's not due to their recent success, mind you - it's a move I've been thinking of since the beginning of the season.) I loved CJ, and still do. My favorite players, along with Skyhigh and Savior, were Kwanro, Much, and Iris. I cried a bit inside the moment I found out CJ was losing two of my favorite players at the same time. I thought about switching teams then, but the only other player I really knew on Stars was Zero, whom I also really liked watching, but I didn't think it was enough for the switch.

The last few months have not been kind to CJ fans. The three powerhouses were doing relatively well for awhile, but now they're all in a bit of a funk, with Skyhigh faring worst of all, and Savior is now a B-teamer. I still root for CJ, and would consider myself a fan (of the current team - I'll always love Entus), but over the months I came to find myself rooting for Stars more; I'd stay up to watch all their games, where unless it was against a particularly good team, I wasn't as upset if I missed a CJ set.

I know what you mean about switching teams, though. I see people who cycle through a team every few months, or go from one team to a third in a month. Even if it is just a small little icon that shows where one's loyalties lie, it wasn't an easy decision for me to make.


This is really creepy. i just had the exact same experience for the exact same players and teams. mind reader! . I'm a Stars fan now. OP i wouldnt feel too bad about switching, i knew i had to change in my heart before i did, but it feels better now that i have. Pro SC is so deep haha.
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