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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 10 2010 04:48 GMT
#121
On April 10 2010 13:44 Exteray wrote:
I also remain interested skeptical.
If you are savior, and you are picking between:
1)10K to 20K instant cash
2) Potential MSL/OSL title...

Which one would you pick? I think these programers already make a lot.. to them honor is more than $$.

It's not like that.
1) 10K to 20K instant cash
2) Zero change of MSL/OSL title because you are burned out and are past your prime and have a very slim chance of making it through to even the ro8.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:49:11
April 10 2010 04:48 GMT
#122
You know, when a certain scandal in progaming was being discussed, Rekrul made a comment to the effect of: "If you guys knew the real worst scandal in gaming your heads would explode." When I read Waxangel's blog, I immediately thought "OMG THIS IS IT!" But since Rek didn't have any prior proof of it, I guess not...
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Upchurch
Profile Joined February 2010
United States15 Posts
April 10 2010 04:49 GMT
#123
On April 10 2010 13:48 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:45 Upchurch wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:44 Exteray wrote:
I also remain interested skeptical.
If you are savior, and you are picking between:
1)10K to 20K instant cash
2) Potential MSL/OSL title...

Which one would you pick? I think these programers already make a lot.. to them honor is more than $$.


They must have been bribed more than that. A starleague title has a $40K prize for first place iirc

Yeah but you have to win the games first. Are any of the names Rek mentioned major starleague contenders?


They've all won starleagues

or do you mean in the present?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 10 2010 04:49 GMT
#124
On April 10 2010 13:48 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:46 semantics wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:45 JohnColtrane wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:44 Exteray wrote:
I also remain interested skeptical.
If you are savior, and you are picking between:
1)10K to 20K instant cash
2) Potential MSL/OSL title...

Which one would you pick? I think these programers already make a lot.. to them honor is more than $$.


lol 20k is alot of money, if someone said to me 'hey you want this trophy or 20k?' id take the 20k lol

During savior dominance with prize money factored in he was making like 2 mil a year in US dollars.


Um?

Lol yeah pretty vague memory not really sure but i swear there is a thread laying around here just about how much money savior was making.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
April 10 2010 04:49 GMT
#125
On April 10 2010 13:48 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:46 semantics wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:45 JohnColtrane wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:44 Exteray wrote:
I also remain interested skeptical.
If you are savior, and you are picking between:
1)10K to 20K instant cash
2) Potential MSL/OSL title...

Which one would you pick? I think these programers already make a lot.. to them honor is more than $$.


lol 20k is alot of money, if someone said to me 'hey you want this trophy or 20k?' id take the 20k lol

During savior dominance with prize money factored in he was making like 2 mil a year in US dollars.


Um?


ETT is he being serious?
HEY MEYT
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24670 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:50:52
April 10 2010 04:49 GMT
#126
On April 10 2010 13:34 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:33 micronesia wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:29 Waxangel wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:14 micronesia wrote:
On what criminal charges exactly would the gamers be arrested?


most forms of gambling including sportsbetting are illegal in korea

Yes, but what would the progamer get in trouble for? They weren't the ones gambling.


lol u have to be joking, most modern countries have tons of laws against accepting bribes to throw matches in competitions

No I'm not joking I just want to understand the reasoning behind the person throwing the match to be arrested... is it that they are accomplices to gambling, and that gambling is illegal? Other than that I don't see logic behind penalties except those imposed by the sports agency. There is no such law that says "you can't throw a match".

On April 10 2010 13:36 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:33 micronesia wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:29 Waxangel wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:14 micronesia wrote:
On what criminal charges exactly would the gamers be arrested?


most forms of gambling including sportsbetting are illegal in korea

Yes, but what would the progamer get in trouble for? They weren't the ones gambling.


wtf micronesia

Don't assume something I'm not saying... I'm just looking for clarification.
On April 10 2010 13:36 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:33 micronesia wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:29 Waxangel wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:14 micronesia wrote:
On what criminal charges exactly would the gamers be arrested?


most forms of gambling including sportsbetting are illegal in korea

Yes, but what would the progamer get in trouble for? They weren't the ones gambling.


There is a long wiki article that explains how this works and why its illegal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_fixing

I found it by googling "throwing a match"

Yes I found that also and it doesn't answer the question.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 10 2010 04:50 GMT
#127
I'm willing to bet Kingdom is 100% on that list rekrul.

I made a thread when I was in korea live-watching a game about how it was the most obvious throw of a sc pro game ever and all people did was give me shit and excuses even though it was obvious to a 1 year newbie to sc who shoulda won.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:51:14
April 10 2010 04:50 GMT
#128
On April 10 2010 13:49 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:48 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:46 semantics wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:45 JohnColtrane wrote:
On April 10 2010 13:44 Exteray wrote:
I also remain interested skeptical.
If you are savior, and you are picking between:
1)10K to 20K instant cash
2) Potential MSL/OSL title...

Which one would you pick? I think these programers already make a lot.. to them honor is more than $$.


lol 20k is alot of money, if someone said to me 'hey you want this trophy or 20k?' id take the 20k lol

During savior dominance with prize money factored in he was making like 2 mil a year in US dollars.


Um?

Lol yeah pretty vague memory not really sure but i swear there is a thread laying around here just about how much money savior was making.


You're off a digit bud.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50285

200k, not 2mil.



On April 10 2010 13:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
ETT is he being serious?


No, he's remembering wrong.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
April 10 2010 04:50 GMT
#129
Assuming that what rek said is true.... the most fixed/bs match I can think of in my head is..... + Show Spoiler +
Gomtv Special Bisu vs Jaedong esp Set5 and Gomtv Season 1 Finals between Flash and JD cuz the whole touney<everything else in reputation/fame/stakes/etc
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 10 2010 04:51 GMT
#130
Does progaming have rules regarding matchfixing? If so then are they too afraid of the potential scandal to ban the players who are caught?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 10 2010 04:51 GMT
#131
oh man you guys are going to love this one

midas was offered $ to throw a game, i'm not sure if he took the money first or was going to get it afterwards, but he said sure i'll do it

then he went back on his word and raped the guy he played

hero
why so 진지해?
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 10 2010 04:51 GMT
#132
On April 10 2010 13:50 chongu wrote:
Assuming that what rek said is true.... the most fixed/bs match I can think of in my head is..... + Show Spoiler +
Gomtv Special Bisu vs Jaedong esp Set5 and Gomtv Season 1 Finals between Flash and JD cuz the whole touney<everything else in reputation/fame/stakes/etc


Was that the hold position game?
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:52:27
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#133
On April 10 2010 13:47 Try wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 13:44 Exteray wrote:
I also remain interested skeptical.
If you are savior, and you are picking between:
1)10K to 20K instant cash
2) Potential MSL/OSL title...

Which one would you pick? I think these programers already make a lot.. to them honor is more than $$.


Hmmm... take guaranteed money or try to beat Flash Bo5... WWJD?


rape flash 3-1, 3-0 and then 3-1 again?

oh wait, only one "d" in that
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#134
On April 10 2010 13:51 Rekrul wrote:
oh man you guys are going to love this one

midas was offered $ to throw a game, i'm not sure if he took the money first or was going to get it afterwards, but he said sure i'll do it

then he went back on his word and raped the guy he played

hero

:O...
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#135
On April 10 2010 13:51 Rekrul wrote:
oh man you guys are going to love this one

midas was offered $ to throw a game, i'm not sure if he took the money first or was going to get it afterwards, but he said sure i'll do it

then he went back on his word and raped the guy he played

hero



Pimp
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#136
I'm reading this, and still wtfing...
Waiting for the list.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:53:20
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#137
So savior isn't actually slumping, woooOoOoOoo

Unless this was awhile back and didn't happen recently

When was the timeframe of all of these fixed matches? Throughout the past years, just recently, just awhile back, or?
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#138
On April 10 2010 13:51 Rekrul wrote:
oh man you guys are going to love this one

midas was offered $ to throw a game, i'm not sure if he took the money first or was going to get it afterwards, but he said sure i'll do it

then he went back on his word and raped the guy he played

hero


Awesome, always loved Midas anyways.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Xtal
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Haiti385 Posts
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#139
On April 10 2010 13:51 Rekrul wrote:
oh man you guys are going to love this one

midas was offered $ to throw a game, i'm not sure if he took the money first or was going to get it afterwards, but he said sure i'll do it

then he went back on his word and raped the guy he played

hero


Midas <3
Have you ever heard the story, about the Zergling and the Probe? The Probe didn't make it across the creep.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
April 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#140
On April 10 2010 13:51 Rekrul wrote:
oh man you guys are going to love this one

midas was offered $ to throw a game, i'm not sure if he took the money first or was going to get it afterwards, but he said sure i'll do it

then he went back on his word and raped the guy he played

hero


LOL MIDAS!
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