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Books about Mentalism/Body Language

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Quint
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
467 Posts
April 09 2010 13:35 GMT
#1
So I stumbled upon 'What Every BODY Is Saying' by Joe Navarro, an ex-FBI agent. His job was basically to read the body language of people involved in crimes and his book is full of interesting stories of how suspects give themselves away through the most subtle of details (like the feet being the most 'honest' part of the body or the differences when men and women unconsciously try to protect their neck/throat in a stress-situation).

Do you know any other good books about Mentalism/Body Language or Profling? I just find the art of 'reading' people very interesting and hope to find some suggestions here. I would also recommend everyone Navarros book - even if you don't want to use the stuff in there it is an interesting read.




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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
April 09 2010 13:58 GMT
#2
I own "Read em and Reap", a poker book he put out. I assume it's a lot of the same stuff only in relation to poker tells.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
April 09 2010 14:11 GMT
#3
that show with tim roth that was on a few years ago seems like this in a nutshell.
each episode shows him solving the case by reading a tick or some other such body language clue. ill look for this e-version since i like reading people too. im usually pretty good at it naturally.
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
April 09 2010 14:45 GMT
#4
On April 09 2010 23:11 omninmo wrote:
im usually pretty good at it naturally.

no offense but I think everybody is. That's why I'd never read such a book the OP mentioned. What gives?
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h3L
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Bulgaria33 Posts
April 09 2010 14:53 GMT
#5
You have to learn to open yourself and feel the opponent, otherwise your tells will never work against a pro People are different and different criteria work to generally provoke them to behave in a certain way. Books might work for the area that person lives or the geographical region, but if you take that knowledge for example and try to read person from the tundra where there is no TV, PC and modern shit - you will fail. And people change their reactions so they can survive. Don`t waste your time trying to learn something that is not useful other than to make you look cool among your friends.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 09 2010 15:26 GMT
#6
On April 09 2010 23:45 Prof. Protoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 23:11 omninmo wrote:
im usually pretty good at it naturally.

no offense but I think everybody is. That's why I'd never read such a book the OP mentioned. What gives?

yes your unfounded assumption really throws the existence of all of the media on this into quite a quandary.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
April 09 2010 15:47 GMT
#7
On April 09 2010 23:53 h3L wrote:
You have to learn to open yourself and feel the opponent, otherwise your tells will never work against a pro People are different and different criteria work to generally provoke them to behave in a certain way. Books might work for the area that person lives or the geographical region, but if you take that knowledge for example and try to read person from the tundra where there is no TV, PC and modern shit - you will fail. And people change their reactions so they can survive. Don`t waste your time trying to learn something that is not useful other than to make you look cool among your friends.


he said he found it interesting, why is it so wrong for people to pursue their interests? Yes of course it's an extensive science that would require alot of work and adaptation to be able, but who cares? Isn't that what makes some things so interesting, the variety the mystery and the challenge?

I've always found this stuff equally interesting as well, besides the tv show the mentalist is pretty awesome
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
April 09 2010 16:10 GMT
#8
On April 09 2010 23:45 Prof. Protoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 23:11 omninmo wrote:
im usually pretty good at it naturally.

no offense but I think everybody is. That's why I'd never read such a book the OP mentioned. What gives?

im pretty sure theres a lot of subtle things everyone misses or everyone would be able to tell when people lie, etc.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 09 2010 16:15 GMT
#9
Paul Ekman has done quite a lot of public work related to this, hes the dude Lie to Me is based on. I highly recommend his books, I read Emotions Revealed a few years ago and it really blew my mind with the stuff he has found out through pretty extensive and thorough research. If you dig around you can probably find one of the guides to FACS online, he has a few computerized training courses designed to help people read facial expression better.

On April 09 2010 23:53 h3L wrote:
You have to learn to open yourself and feel the opponent, otherwise your tells will never work against a pro People are different and different criteria work to generally provoke them to behave in a certain way. Books might work for the area that person lives or the geographical region, but if you take that knowledge for example and try to read person from the tundra where there is no TV, PC and modern shit - you will fail. And people change their reactions so they can survive. Don`t waste your time trying to learn something that is not useful other than to make you look cool among your friends.


This, in particular, is something he has proven to be completely untrue. He did research in the areas of new guinea that had no contact to the outside world, in the 70s, and found that people naturally make the same expressions when experiencing similar emotions, even when completely removed from "modern culture" or however you want to look at it. Facial expression when experiencing certain emotions is universal.
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craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
April 09 2010 17:37 GMT
#10
Anything by Samy Moloch.
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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
April 09 2010 18:17 GMT
#11
On April 09 2010 22:58 3clipse wrote:
I own "Read em and Reap", a poker book he put out. I assume it's a lot of the same stuff only in relation to poker tells.

Is this a good book? I need some good poker reading material, and something on tells sounds pretty interesting.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 10 2010 02:20 GMT
#12
true experts on body language are not so consciously aware of exactly what information is making them feel the way someone feels
why so 진지해?
lux[chavii]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany115 Posts
April 10 2010 02:46 GMT
#13
On April 10 2010 02:37 craaaaack wrote:
Anything by Samy Moloch.


I can only second this (except he is called Samy Molcho.) I've read a book by him about basics of postures and gestures and while some was not new or obvious there was a lot, which I didn't know and thus quite worth the read.
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
April 11 2010 01:31 GMT
#14
On April 10 2010 00:26 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 23:45 Prof. Protoss wrote:
On April 09 2010 23:11 omninmo wrote:
im usually pretty good at it naturally.

no offense but I think everybody is. That's why I'd never read such a book the OP mentioned. What gives?

yes your unfounded assumption really throws the existence of all of the media on this into quite a quandary.

Hey Idra! What assumption is founded?
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