On March 24 2010 00:31 nayumi wrote: Be natural is my only advice. Seriously if you're trying to act cool and be someone who is not you, eventually the girl will find out and sooner or later the relationship will reach its end. If you're looking for a one-night stand, sure go ahead do whatever it takes to shag the shit outta her and then leave next morning. OR you could always be yourself (being a little bit more open helps), and love will find you (I have a goose bump after typing that line ... -_-).
Think of it this way. Your friend is a nice guy, but he doesn't bathe often. People don't like to mix with him because of his prominent body odor, and even his family and friends mind and hang out with him less.
On March 23 2010 22:40 baller wrote: i got my girlfriend Claire by going the friends first nice guy route. i first met her in class and she became friends with me mainly because i was good at the subject and took notes for her when she wasnt there. then we talked a lot on internet chat and i listened to all her complaints about the guys she dated, wondering when she will realize i was the one for her. even one time when her boyfriend canceled on her, i took her out to a movie and paid for everything, it was very "date" like but she didnt kiss me or anything at the end.
eventually, after months of doing this, Claire broke up with her bf and i talked to her about it. i was very hopeful that she'd finally notice me, but she dated another guy who was just as big an asshole right away. i was sad, but i didnt end our friendship -- she was too important to me. then for her birthday, she was sick and very sad. her new bf got her some shitty flowers and candy, but i made her this DVD with all her favorite songs and filmed her favorite locations around the city. i spent hours on it. she finally realized that she was with the wrong guy.
right before winter break she texted me, breathless and happy that she finally realized it. i was so happy and literally cried in the cab (i was on the way to the airport to go home) when i read the texts that she wanted to be with me. i felt on top of the world and that my months of hardship were finally rewarded. i couldnt wait until after break, so i yelled to the cabby yo homes smell you later, looked at my new girlfriend i was finally there to sit on my throne as the boyfriend of Claire.
On March 24 2010 00:31 nayumi wrote: Be natural is my only advice. Seriously if you're trying to act cool and be someone who is not you, eventually the girl will find out and sooner or later the relationship will reach its end. If you're looking for a one-night stand, sure go ahead do whatever it takes to shag the shit outta her and then leave next morning. OR you could always be yourself (being a little bit more open helps), and love will find you (I have a goose bump after typing that line ... -_-).
Think of it this way. Your friend is a nice guy, but he doesn't bathe often. People don't like to mix with him because of his prominent body odor, and even his family and friends mind and hang out with him less.
There is nothing wrong with being a nice guy. Just don't be a doormat. Be confident, funny and have a goal and the girls will find you attractive, even if you're not the best looking.
On March 24 2010 00:02 Jibba wrote: Except in the countless cultures, including early American culture, where women still worked up to and directly after pregnancy? Furthermore, you're talking about evolutionary psychology, which is also horse shit.
Please show us some of this hardwiring. You could win a Nobel prize for the discovery.
lol.
So women are exactly the same as men. Just completely different.
Firstly women are far more emotionally complicated than men.
They have more of a need for drama.
on the whole women aren't as self confident about life as men are, you assume that the good looking girl is confident in herself but she knows her looks are going to fade, her value comes from how much she feels desired, men's are from how useful and needed we are.
Women are less self-reliant than men as well, women are almost exclusively the buyers of relationship and self help books.
Women are naturally nurturing, when it isn't demanded or taken for granted, especially after she's found feelings for you.
Women don't want it too easy either, they want to roller-coaster ride of emotions, they say they don't want to play games, but they initiate emotional games alll the time, they're lying.
Also men usually learn to use their physical power where women are far more likely to use their sexual attractiveness or social skills as their power.
I'm not trying to attack your character here but if you want to know more, go educated yourself, you are assuming you know things that you know nothing about.
Ugh, not even worth my time. It's like explaining calculus to someone working on "timesing."
as contribution, most girls like guys who can take charge, and who will take charge. now, most guys who are nice feel that they need to let the girl take charge, and most guys who take charge are assholes, but thats the problem, not the solution.
nice guys can be nice and still be guys.
on another note, i HATE the 'friends route'.. not because it doesn't work or is wrong in itself, but if that's your plan, thats the wost type of game to be playing.. if you're looking at your friends and asking yourself which you'd like to date, then all your friendships are just a means to an end.. i think being friends with a girl past a certain point without being honest about how you feel about her means you're just using her friendship.. she thinks you want to be there for her, but you're looking for something totally different
(disclaimer, obviously sometimes people fall for their friends, but that a different issue entirely) also, i'm not posting cause i care, more cause this thread is making me laugh.
Just be yourself. Girls are not always right that is why you dont agree and be nice all the time. Its like behind you being a dick when they act stupid, they know that you are a nice guy. You are just being a man and putting them in check when they are out of line. gotta control them.
Girls are smarter than us guys. think about it, they guard their virginity and their image, us guys couldnt care less who we are with unless someone finds out.
let me tell you a personal experience
the last time i had some girls at home (last saturday) we were drinking and all. one of the girls that texted me to pick them up went to light a ciggarette at the stove i said to her "dont get your hair burnt" and i pushed her head very lightly in a jokeing way and her eyebrow and a bit of her hair got burnt.. she was not very pissed at all she really tought it was funny as it wasnt that bad. I teased her friend a bit about it and we teased her about it. they took the tease lightly.
At the end of the night i ended up with her friend and my buddy got with the girl that got her hair burnt. they talked about it on facebook and laughed about it. She eaven texted me today and all this was on saturday.
they were entertained, thats what girls want.. then they want to have "stuff" that good guys have at first you got to be interesting and funny and all that.
the moral of the story girls like to be teased and treated "wrong" if your too nice your too boring.. I do have hard time finding a girlfriend but anytime a girl comes home with her friends to drink i put down the good guy and put the "bad" part on.
youve got to be a well rounded guy, a bit funny a bit cruel a bit nice a bit bad...
either way im not saying i understand women at all im just saying..
ps the girl i got with had a boyfriend and ive never made someone cheat.. i feel quite good inside..
i dont usual do those bad things.. but i always wanted to do it. i dont give a f about your boyfriend.
On March 23 2010 22:40 baller wrote: right before winter break she texted me, breathless and happy that she finally realized it. i was so happy and literally cried in the cab (i was on the way to the airport to go home) when i read the texts that she wanted to be with me. i felt on top of the world and that my months of hardship were finally rewarded. i couldnt wait until after break, so i yelled to the cabby yo homes smell you later, looked at my new girlfriend i was finally there to sit on my throne as the boyfriend of Claire.
On March 23 2010 22:40 baller wrote: right before winter break she texted me, breathless and happy that she finally realized it. i was so happy and literally cried in the cab (i was on the way to the airport to go home) when i read the texts that she wanted to be with me. i felt on top of the world and that my months of hardship were finally rewarded. i couldnt wait until after break, so i yelled to the cabby yo homes smell you later, looked at my new girlfriend i was finally there to sit on my throne as the boyfriend of Claire.
wtf how did this post not get more love
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On March 23 2010 22:40 baller wrote: right before winter break she texted me, breathless and happy that she finally realized it. i was so happy and literally cried in the cab (i was on the way to the airport to go home) when i read the texts that she wanted to be with me. i felt on top of the world and that my months of hardship were finally rewarded. i couldnt wait until after break, so i yelled to the cabby yo homes smell you later, looked at my new girlfriend i was finally there to sit on my throne as the boyfriend of Claire.
wtf how did this post not get more love
Posters trying to show high status by not giving it love.
On March 24 2010 00:02 Jibba wrote: Except in the countless cultures, including early American culture, where women still worked up to and directly after pregnancy? Furthermore, you're talking about evolutionary psychology, which is also horse shit.
Please show us some of this hardwiring. You could win a Nobel prize for the discovery.
lol.
So women are exactly the same as men. Just completely different.
Firstly women are far more emotionally complicated than men.
They have more of a need for drama.
on the whole women aren't as self confident about life as men are, you assume that the good looking girl is confident in herself but she knows her looks are going to fade, her value comes from how much she feels desired, men's are from how useful and needed we are.
Women are less self-reliant than men as well, women are almost exclusively the buyers of relationship and self help books.
Women are naturally nurturing, when it isn't demanded or taken for granted, especially after she's found feelings for you.
Women don't want it too easy either, they want to roller-coaster ride of emotions, they say they don't want to play games, but they initiate emotional games alll the time, they're lying.
Also men usually learn to use their physical power where women are far more likely to use their sexual attractiveness or social skills as their power.
I'm not trying to attack your character here but if you want to know more, go educated yourself, you are assuming you know things that you know nothing about.
Ugh, not even worth my time. It's like explaining calculus to someone working on "timesing."
I could say your whole argument for you, that's how well I know it. And you're wrong, chump.
Annoys me to no end how many posts I've read lately claiming that the social trends they accept are some sort of absolute genetic trait, and then backing it up with some sort of nonsense pseudoscience.
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