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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
March 16 2010 22:00 GMT
#1
Is there a such a thing as being able to succeed socially? It's an essay prompt for a scholarship, asking me how I succeeded academically as well as socially, I am not sure how to go about this. Does it mean having a lot of friends on facebook, having a lot of friends at school, not having a lot of friends but few close ones, being a suck up, etc.?



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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
March 16 2010 22:03 GMT
#2
they just want to make sure you aren't a kid who just studies all the time.

it's like those kids in college with a 3.8+ GPA and 34+ MCAT but they get rejected from all these med schools after doing their interviews because they are just SOOOO socially awkward and all they've done during college is study study study.
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sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
March 16 2010 22:04 GMT
#3
this question is stupid
+there is no singular definition for success in anything, success is subjective and relative to what you as a person views as satisfying enough for your needs
Write about your social life (no matter what type it is) , and why it is important and fulfilling to you
:)
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
March 16 2010 22:05 GMT
#4
I think it's not just things like having lots of friends, but also being part of a community and helping people out too.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 22:06:25
March 16 2010 22:06 GMT
#5
Good looks help a lot in life. You don't need social skills just be a looker.

Look up the halo effect

Good looks = good person good at everything subconsciously.
buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
March 16 2010 22:06 GMT
#6
anyone can explain what socially awkward is? I find myself in those situations but I can't quite explain what they are.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
March 16 2010 22:06 GMT
#7
On March 17 2010 07:05 Ronald_McD wrote:
I think it's not just things like having lots of friends, but also being part of a community and helping people out too.

I'd agree with this too. It's basically who is a community role model? Look at his traits and see which overlap with what you have.
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
March 16 2010 22:06 GMT
#8
Its really important to learn how to study really efficiently so you can party and gain social confidence. My cousin who went to med school kept his A average during uni and still managed to party often (bio).

Med school is dif though 12 hours a day. Basically they want confidence.
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
March 16 2010 22:07 GMT
#9
its kinda funny... Cos to me asking someone to write about that is something only a socially awkward person would come up with and think theres an answer
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buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
March 16 2010 22:08 GMT
#10
at the micro level though, I think social success also has to do with how successful you are relative to what you were born with. If you're a good looking person with no friends, you're not socially successful. Heck, you're a damn right failure. But if you're an average looking guy that gets along well with people, then you're exponentially more successful.

semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 22:15:03
March 16 2010 22:10 GMT
#11
On March 17 2010 07:06 buickskylark wrote:
anyone can explain what socially awkward is? I find myself in those situations but I can't quite explain what they are.

I think the psych def of it more puts you into the category of people who think chairs are people.

To what I think when I hear socially awkward. Are people in certain social groups and situations performing poorly when fitting into that situation or group thus making awkward moments. You should meet my friend Ben he’s the most incompetent person when it comes to perceiving social norms along with his horrible way of speaking but he fits in just fine with our group and a lot of groups because people get used to him.


As far as the essay i always hated those i always did much better in person. As i'm a mean bastard when it comes to taking sides, i'd write well i haven't gone out and kill six people yet and people don't run away from me when i come up to them, i'd call that doing just fine socially. Then i'd go on that you are writing clearly writing an academic paper based off sucking up talking about your social abilities?

Imo just relate the social scene around what the scholarship is about, like if it's about being a certain culture or w.e. There are too many gray lines when you talk about success and social, it's like manners it varies from group to group there is not bar to just measure you are here in the ladder of success.
buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 22:12:12
March 16 2010 22:11 GMT
#12
^But you're being overly abstract. What makes a situation socially awkward?
leejas
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States440 Posts
March 16 2010 22:27 GMT
#13
Means going out and seeing/hanging out once in a while.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 22:29:16
March 16 2010 22:27 GMT
#14
i think they want to know you can work with people...

its not a popularity contest.

talk about experiences of accomplishing things in groups.


Means going out and seeing/hanging out once in a while.


it def does not mean that lol... if you can work well in groups, do your work. they don't give a shit if you play SC with all your free time. cuz its still social...

and i hardly think they care how often you go out. it means nothing.
milo
Profile Joined February 2010
116 Posts
March 16 2010 22:31 GMT
#15
On March 17 2010 07:27 SkylineSC wrote:
i think they want to know you can work with people...

its not a popularity contest.

talk about experiences of accomplishing things in groups.


Show nested quote +
Means going out and seeing/hanging out once in a while.


it def does not mean that lol... if you can work well in groups, do your work. they don't give a shit if you play SC with all your free time. cuz its still social...

and i hardly think they care how often you go out. it means nothing.



This. They want to know if you've got the necessary people skills. Mention any jobs (customer service jobs are a plus here) or community service you've done.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
March 16 2010 22:45 GMT
#16
Yeah it's their way of asking about your leadership skills without being too obvious, because as soon as they actually put "leadership skills" people start making up positions they had in imaginary clubs, etc.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 16 2010 23:17 GMT
#17
Succeeding socially is kind of misleading term.

Well every time I see this brought up on prompts, I define it as realizing that there is more than just you and your life. Your success is very much a product of someone's work and more often than not you'll be working with other people and relying on other people's work. In other words, as long as you make it clear that you can't succeed or that it will be very difficult for you to succeed solely by yourself, you'll be fine.

Importance of quantity, quality, etc. is how you define it. As long as you define it in your paper beforehand, then you're fine. So define social success first (something people with shitty essay writing skills fail to do very often), then back it up.
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0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
March 16 2010 23:34 GMT
#18
On March 17 2010 07:06 Virtue wrote:
Good looks help a lot in life. You don't need social skills just be a looker.

Look up the halo effect

Good looks = good person good at everything subconsciously.


Yes. This is one of the best ways (if not the best) to generally improve yourself.
If you get better looking, you'll have more self-confidence, which affects EVERYTHING you do. You'll probably get better at *everything*, and feel good.
This way, you can also easily overshadow other weaknesses you might have.
Plus, you'll obviously have more success with the other gender, and furthermore people of the same gender will tend to *respect* you more. One might think this is only true for girls, but I believe it's also true for guys, just to a lesser extent, and more on a subconscious level.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 16 2010 23:38 GMT
#19
On March 17 2010 07:04 sMi.SyMPhOnY wrote:
this question is stupid
+there is no singular definition for success in anything, success is subjective and relative to what you as a person views as satisfying enough for your needs
Write about your social life (no matter what type it is) , and why it is important and fulfilling to you

Of course it is...and if you thought it through for just a few more seconds, you'd realize that the people who came up with that prompt also understand that.

They want to know about the applicant through this paper. This is a way for the school's admissions people to know the applicant on a more personal level. They're not gonna ask him a question with a "singular definition"...they WANT an answer that is subjective and contingent to the individual.

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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 17 2010 00:33 GMT
#20
I think it has something to do with having quite a few friends and being genuinely happy around them instead of being an anti-social nerd.
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 02:32:03
March 17 2010 02:31 GMT
#21
On March 17 2010 08:34 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 07:06 Virtue wrote:
Good looks help a lot in life. You don't need social skills just be a looker.

Look up the halo effect

Good looks = good person good at everything subconsciously.


Yes. This is one of the best ways (if not the best) to generally improve yourself.
If you get better looking, you'll have more self-confidence, which affects EVERYTHING you do. You'll probably get better at *everything*, and feel good.
This way, you can also easily overshadow other weaknesses you might have.
Plus, you'll obviously have more success with the other gender, and furthermore people of the same gender will tend to *respect* you more. One might think this is only true for girls, but I believe it's also true for guys, just to a lesser extent, and more on a subconscious level.


No matter how over-the-top this sounds, I've found myself admiring other guys for this very reason, and comparing them to myself quite often. It might be a confidence issue, jealousy, or plain admiration. Either way, improving yourself should have at least some effect. It's on my own to-do list. Have you ever noticed that you seem to be a lot more confident and outgoing if you're simply wearing nicer clothes, styled hair, things as simple as that.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 03:18:35
March 17 2010 03:17 GMT
#22
Everyone has their own definition of being sociable. Most people think its about hanging out with others and being easy to talk to. I for example, don't have any friends (I don't want to), and I think being sociable is trying to help society as a whole to improve, and I'm not above helping so I consider myself sociable.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 03:35:48
March 17 2010 03:31 GMT
#23
On March 17 2010 11:31 Archaic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 08:34 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
On March 17 2010 07:06 Virtue wrote:
Good looks help a lot in life. You don't need social skills just be a looker.

Look up the halo effect

Good looks = good person good at everything subconsciously.


Yes. This is one of the best ways (if not the best) to generally improve yourself.
If you get better looking, you'll have more self-confidence, which affects EVERYTHING you do. You'll probably get better at *everything*, and feel good.
This way, you can also easily overshadow other weaknesses you might have.
Plus, you'll obviously have more success with the other gender, and furthermore people of the same gender will tend to *respect* you more. One might think this is only true for girls, but I believe it's also true for guys, just to a lesser extent, and more on a subconscious level.


No matter how over-the-top this sounds, I've found myself admiring other guys for this very reason, and comparing them to myself quite often. It might be a confidence issue, jealousy, or plain admiration. Either way, improving yourself should have at least some effect. It's on my own to-do list. Have you ever noticed that you seem to be a lot more confident and outgoing if you're simply wearing nicer clothes, styled hair, things as simple as that.

I think that trying to measure success on an empirical level is useful to professionals and employers, but rather insulting on an individual level.

I measure success based on how eccentric I'm allowed to be in a given social situation. If I have to conform strictly to other people's notions of attractiveness, I feel sad and trapped. If I can wear a pillow on my head and a cape among friends, I know I have their hearts.

Does it mean having a lot of friends on facebook, having a lot of friends at school, not having a lot of friends but few close ones, being a suck up, etc.?

It means can you talk to people without making them feel uncomfortable. If you're only sociable among close friends, then that's probably something they'd be concerned about. They want you to be able to talk to other professionals, work in groups, and generally just be likable on a level of acquaintance. That's what I think I'd want to know if I were interviewing someone and asked that.
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Never.Die
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan189 Posts
March 17 2010 05:36 GMT
#24
Socially skilled = knowing how to make people around you happy
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
March 17 2010 07:24 GMT
#25
One line: I have a 14-inch.

Scholarship is yours.

Trust me in this.
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Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 08:03:10
March 17 2010 07:44 GMT
#26
I think they're trying to probe you past your academic, individual achievements and trying to see how you relate on a more macro level. While grades, stats, etc. certainly say a lot about you as a person, your socialization with people definitely says a lot too - this can mean possible community projects you're involved in, clubs, sports teams, down to the time you spend with your family - the things you do with other people whoever they may be, because these activities also say a lot in defining you as a person.

Best of luck in getting the scholarship!
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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
March 17 2010 07:53 GMT
#27
people who are awkward socially are the ones who give a shit. i dunno..like they talk to you and they expect a certain reaction, theyll be really quiet and in their head or they wont do shit without your approval

people who havent been in enough social situations to define their boundaries and banter
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