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Commodore
Profile Joined January 2008
United States97 Posts
February 12 2010 05:20 GMT
#21
As of January 29th, Blizzard hadn't yet decided on the system requirements for the SC2 beta. http://twitter.com/@starcraft

Unless you have a beta key and insist on playing SC2 beta right when it's released, I recommend waiting until the beta has been out for a while and then asking beta key holders with slower PCs about performance.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 12 2010 05:25 GMT
#22
On February 12 2010 14:20 Commodore wrote:
As of January 29th, Blizzard hadn't yet decided on the system requirements for the SC2 beta. http://twitter.com/@starcraft

Unless you have a beta key and insist on playing SC2 beta right when it's released, I recommend waiting until the beta has been out for a while and then asking beta key holders with slower PCs about performance.

It's obvious that what's been posted will run the game fine, so what's the problem? If we look at games like red alert 3 etc, they have fairly lax specifications, so if we just bump that up by a bit, then we can be fairly sure that SC2 will run fine, considering it's not exactly the most visually spectacular game ever.
U Gotta Skate.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
February 12 2010 05:53 GMT
#23
ooph ghermination raging
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
February 12 2010 05:53 GMT
#24
It's hard to believe what you say about the RAM when there is an OCZ response to a negative review that says "We do not market this toward AMD boards".
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello, we are sorry that you had problems. This product was developed for newer Intel chipsets, and while many have used it for AMD systems with good success, we do not actively market it for AMD. We are however happy to assist our customers with troubleshooting and settings on our support forums at the link below.
Thank you


Where did this whole $100 mobo come from? That board has 0 reviews, and no name to back it up. At least ASRock is known to be decently reliable, but JetWay... who are they? The extra money spent on the ASRock provides feedback from other users (generally positive).

As for the PSU, there is no OEM PSU on the Coolermaster case, and the Coolermaster PSU is retail.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 12 2010 06:36 GMT
#25
i don't know why i even try anymore. when we are taking into account the request of the OP in this blog we can look at it two ways: bare minimum and take our hands off it or set him up for long term. i don't think anyone is going to disagree with me when i say the two most important parts of a build are the PSU and mobo.

there's such thing as brand loyalty but there is also such a thing as common sense. you stick with the major brands because they are reputable, because a lot of people buy them, and that means it's been tested. the psu you linked has multiple DOA / semibad reviews and does not list the amperage on the 12V rail. i'm no expert in power supplies but i'd wager that is an important aspect of a psu.

the mobo you listed is some really old nvidia chipset and only supports a 95w CPU. this means no high end upgrades if he ever wants to do so in the future.

you also link an athlon x3 for some reason but go on some spiel about having to cut costs etc etc. i would say that is the area that could use cost cutting rather than the mobo or psu. an athlon x2 sounds like it would handle sc2 just fine.

let me reevaluate fragkrag's build for everyone. for an extra $10 you get a reputable psu, faster hdd, and more upgradable / slightly more reputable mobo. you lose a core but hey, you gotta cut somewhere right?
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 06:53:31
February 12 2010 06:50 GMT
#26
Take ghermi's build, substitute the hard drive with this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145287
Also use the coolermaster psu fragkrag posted.

Nothing wrong with no name brands btw, its usually just as reliable.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
February 12 2010 09:13 GMT
#27
Instead of buying the cheapest shit, why not just get a future proof budget machine for under 1k.
Antec 900 - $100
750 Watt Corsair - $120
a GOOD and RECENT mobo - at least $100

$320 for a base that will be upgradeable for the next decade, what's not to love? It looks nice and lives long
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 17:47:09
February 12 2010 17:44 GMT
#28
Lol how does a 100 dollar case future proof it esp a mid atx case.
750w is massive thats like x 5850's in sli, and you only need like 500-600w a psu only looses about 3% capacity to produce pre a year and if you use your computer say a good long 8 years thats only 24% which would only mean peak loads which most psu's do not ever reach as even a gaming pc with a 5850 would only reach about 400w during a peak load.
Good mobo only means that you get a good over clocking ability people who run things at standard don't need that ability. There are alot of things that people do not use on their mobo like extra pciex16 slots for sli or crap like that or 3 more pci expansons slots etc etc. ASROCK isn't unknown brand it's very well known it's even a bit well known for being the poor man overclocking mobo selection. It isn't a quality brand like Asus and Gigabyte who are known for shoving like 1000 things on their mobo's that no one really uses and it isn't the big daddy like an Evga digital vrm mobo which every OCer would love.

Also computers don't last a decade esp one that isn't top of the line to begin with. If i had a pc made in 2000 I would probably have a Geforce 256 or a Voodoo 2 running on a 800x600 screen using a single core that still is under 1 ghz. Most computers last about gaming 4 years before their age becomes more of an issue for running new things and if top end maybe 6 years.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
February 13 2010 01:36 GMT
#29
A good mobo will not last a decade rofl. Sockets change :p

Neither will that PSU.

don't give bad recommendations please. If somebody actually heeds that advice they're going to spend actual money based on that garbage information :/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 01:42:08
February 13 2010 01:40 GMT
#30
AMD Athlon II X3 425 :
4850 512mb


But you can make it even cheaper. With an Athlon II x2 and a 4670.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
February 13 2010 01:44 GMT
#31
That's cutting the budget a bit close imo.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 01:48:53
February 13 2010 01:48 GMT
#32
Well i would prefer to spend a bit more to get the x3 and the 4850 because it is probably the best perf/price combo atm but since the OP says
On February 12 2010 11:01 Wangsta wrote:
I am looking to build an extremely cheap PC.

and didn't give us his max budget eh ... i feel that i should mention this option.

He should really tell us his budget >.<
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
February 13 2010 01:50 GMT
#33
Yeah, I guess he didn't. If it was $600 there would be many more options though.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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