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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 21:52:08
February 11 2010 21:31 GMT
#1
Hi all, i know this isnt a computer help forum. but my sc problems are always solved here so here i go.

background

A few days ago i went home to discover that my external hard drive was broken. i just got back from a trip and i think someone may have accidentaly kicked against it or sumethin. Now it makes a ticking noise and windows says it can't install the drivers for it. the ticking noise stops after a while but i can't still see it.

The problem

Well, i still have warranty on my hard drive but that won't get me my data back. they only will give me a new external hard drive. I read somewhere on the internet that putting your hard drive in the freezer it sometimes will work for like 20 minutes. I will try that but the problem is the hard drive is covered with rubber to protect it. i don't know if the rubber will tear if i put it in the freezer and if it tears i will lose my warranty and i like to keep my 100 euros in my pocket.

sources

My hard drive:http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=4004&CatID=400
Articles about freezing drives:
http://geeksaresexy.blogspot.com/2006/01/freeze-your-hard-drive-to-recover-data.html
http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid68_gci1266451,00.html
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2006110111270170

I hope you can shed some light on the situation and give me some tips. And even if its a good idea to put a hard drive in a freezerXD

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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 21:51:47
February 11 2010 21:47 GMT
#2
Rubber shouldn't break at normal freezer temps. Shouldn't be that bad to freeze the rubber. But I can't read Dutch so I have no idea what actually covers your HD.

Otherwise, just take it to the pros if you REALLY want to recover what you want. Unless someone here knows a solid program to recover data (random online ones are a crap shoot in terms of quality), that will be your best bet.

Otherwise just warranty it.

Edit: My bad, I just saw the "innovative german tech" part and assumed, didn't even see the .nl
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Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
February 11 2010 21:47 GMT
#3
That ticking noise is most likely the needle actually touching the disk, which in that case, you are screwed.
Also, I haven't herd anything about putting it in your freezer, but I dont think you should do that.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
February 11 2010 21:49 GMT
#4
Rubber shouldn't break at normal freezer temps. Shouldn't be that bad to freeze the rubber. But I can't read German so I have no idea what actually covers your HD.


That wasnt german but dutch
ill put an english link there
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Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
February 11 2010 21:52 GMT
#5
If the data is real important then take it to someone who recovers data for a living, if its not 100 euros is a lot of money I wouldn't chance losing it.
Shengster
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 21:53:43
February 11 2010 21:53 GMT
#6
On February 12 2010 06:47 Dgtl wrote:
That ticking noise is most likely the needle actually touching the disk, which in that case, you are screwed.
Also, I haven't herd anything about putting it in your freezer, but I dont think you should do that.


From a molecular standpoint, lowering the temperature of metal will allow the molecules to condense and compress. Just think of how hard it is to open a frozen jar until you thaw the cap with hot water.

I used to work at a computer repair center on my university campus; we used the hard drive trick only as a last ditch attempt to recover data. You should put it in a waterproof plastic bag and in your freezer for at least three days. Then you can try hooking it up to your PC and try to download only the most crucial data. Every second you do a read or write on the disk the probability of total hard disk failure increases. You wont be able to do this twice.

There's only a 10% chance this will work, so don't get your hopes up.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 11 2010 21:57 GMT
#7
Well, if you are going to freeze it, make sure it's dry. Bag it like the blog does.

Rubber should be fine at -18 C (its actual FP is far below) and according to the specs your HD should be fine all the way up until -20 C

And that ticking noise means you might be sending your stuff to the pros anyways and then warranty-ing it later.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
February 11 2010 22:04 GMT
#8
On February 12 2010 06:52 Klapdout wrote:
If the data is real important then take it to someone who recovers data for a living, if its not 100 euros is a lot of money I wouldn't chance losing it.


If the data was real important i wouldnt even consider putting it in the fridge. its just that the shop owner can't see that it fucks up my hard drive from the outside becouse then they won't take it back. real data recovery costs 1000 euro's and my data isnt worth 1000 euro's
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 11 2010 22:15 GMT
#9
I was hoping this would be about cryogenics and trying to make your harddrive last longer somehow with the use of.
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
February 11 2010 22:16 GMT
#10
I had that awful ticking noise, and my hard drive wasn't working at all.

Then I whacked it and it started working fine (and still works to this day).

One of the most miraculous things I've ever seen a computer component do :p
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 11 2010 22:30 GMT
#11
On February 12 2010 07:04 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2010 06:52 Klapdout wrote:
If the data is real important then take it to someone who recovers data for a living, if its not 100 euros is a lot of money I wouldn't chance losing it.


If the data was real important i wouldnt even consider putting it in the fridge. its just that the shop owner can't see that it fucks up my hard drive from the outside becouse then they won't take it back. real data recovery costs 1000 euro's and my data isnt worth 1000 euro's


I wouldn't think that it would cost 1000 euros... I could be wrong
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
February 11 2010 22:38 GMT
#12
Freeze trick worked once for me. (and has failed twice.) My drive had the click of death. Head scoring the platter. Stuck. Freezing it changed the properties enough the head was able to extricate itself or whatever and I got all my data off.

When my mother's drive died with too many important files, we skipped the freezer and sent it to data recovery peeps. It would have cost $850 if they could have saved it, but swapping out the mechanics in their clean room didn't help: the platter was too badly damaged and immediately killed the new head. At least they didn't charge us for it.

Those are your options The pros are sort of expensive, but only if it works. If it's something important, send it to them. If the cost is too much, try the freezer thing. It actually does work once in a while.

Watch out for condensation though. Put it in the freezer in a plastic bag. It will still attract moisture when it comes out of the freezer though. Try and get it dry before powering up. Don't wait too long though, want to do it while still cold
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
February 12 2010 00:47 GMT
#13
hmm, ok ill put it tomorrow in the freezer and let you know wat happened
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ItsYoungLee
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 15:56:05
February 12 2010 15:55 GMT
#14
Agree with MamiyaOtaru... if there's any moisture on your hard drive or inside your hard drive and you freeze it - that could damage your hard drive, even with a plastic bag on. Careful...

edit: well it's already damaged upon second thought, it's worth a try I guess
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 16:37:18
February 12 2010 16:36 GMT
#15
I tried this when my 3 year old drives began to have seek/read errors and would crash windows whenever I tried to access it. It worked like a charm and I managed to have the drive accessible/running long enough for me to be able to back up all my data. I think the rubber shouldn't be effected too much..?

Good luck!
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