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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 22:52:53
February 08 2010 21:45 GMT
#1
Recently I've been getting back into running because I slacked off pretty hard over Christmas/New Years. Yesterday morning I ran about 8 miles, and that afternoon my foot starting hurting fairly sharply.

It doesn't feel bruised or painful when I'm sitting or standing, but when I walk, I get a sharp pain towards the back of my arch. I don't notice any swelling or redness either.

Anyone get in injury like this before? I'm worried it could be a stress fracture, but I've heard that will hurt even when you aren't walking or standing.

Couple clarifications: This came on fairly suddenly; I didn't feel anything until after I had finished the run. I have been running often for the past 2 weeks. 8 miles was the longest distance I had gone, but it wasn't like it was the first time.

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ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
February 08 2010 21:47 GMT
#2
Possible stress fracture?
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 21:49:51
February 08 2010 21:48 GMT
#3
You probably have shin splints. It's from running on hard surfaces, and you might have flat feet. I used to get it when running long distances in military - best solution was to get custom insoles which are like 130$ or something (if you have flat feet). Otherwise, if you haven't been running that much recently, i would pace yourself until you build up your strength...8 miles seems a bit much after slacking for so long and is probably the cause of the pain.

Try running on a grass field if you have access to one.
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
February 08 2010 21:51 GMT
#4
On February 09 2010 06:48 Kennigit wrote:
You probably have shin splints. It's from running on hard surfaces, and you might have flat feet. I used to get it when running long distances in military - best solution was to get custom insoles which are like 130$ or something (if you have flat feet). Otherwise, if you haven't been running that much recently, i would pace yourself until you build up your strength...8 miles seems a bit much after slacking for so long and is probably the cause of the pain.

Try running on a grass field if you have access to one.



This would sound like the situation you are in.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 21:55:35
February 08 2010 21:53 GMT
#5
I got those two when I started running again after 4 years of pretty much not exercising at all. Though I started small only running two miles...and Ive been slacking lately mostly due to the weather here has been so Blah. What was said earlier is probably most correct. I also have heard the way your foot strikes the ground as your running can also cause it as well.
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
February 08 2010 21:54 GMT
#6
On February 09 2010 06:48 Kennigit wrote:
You probably have shin splints. It's from running on hard surfaces, and you might have flat feet. I used to get it when running long distances in military - best solution was to get custom insoles which are like 130$ or something (if you have flat feet). Otherwise, if you haven't been running that much recently, i would pace yourself until you build up your strength...8 miles seems a bit much after slacking for so long and is probably the cause of the pain.

Try running on a grass field if you have access to one.


I'm pretty sure it's not shin splints. I've felt those before when I was like 15. Plus, the pain is right at the bottom/side of my arch, not in my shins.

Yeah 8 miles was the longest i had gone in a while, but i had run maybe 7 out of the past 10 days and felt pretty good, so the run on Sunday must have caused it. Shin splints are more of a chronic injury.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
February 08 2010 21:55 GMT
#7
Wow! Kennigit is so smart. Hey Kennigit, I have digestive problems, have tried going without gluten and then without lactose, but the abdominal pains remain intermittent and unpredictable. I have no familial histories of digestive disorders, you know what it might be?
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
February 08 2010 22:02 GMT
#8
On February 09 2010 06:55 love1another wrote:
Wow! Kennigit is so smart. Hey Kennigit, I have digestive problems, have tried going without gluten and then without lactose, but the abdominal pains remain intermittent and unpredictable. I have no familial histories of digestive disorders, you know what it might be?


Coffee? Sugar? Fish oil? Stress?
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
February 08 2010 22:04 GMT
#9
If it ends up being nothing and you're set to resume your running, you might want to increase milage and intensity more gradually. Your heart, lungs and leg muscles might be getting fitter faster than your bones, joints and ligaments can handle.
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love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
February 08 2010 22:05 GMT
#10
On February 09 2010 07:02 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 06:55 love1another wrote:
Wow! Kennigit is so smart. Hey Kennigit, I have digestive problems, have tried going without gluten and then without lactose, but the abdominal pains remain intermittent and unpredictable. I have no familial histories of digestive disorders, you know what it might be?


Coffee? Sugar? Fish oil? Stress?

It's probably stress.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 08 2010 22:07 GMT
#11
On February 09 2010 06:55 love1another wrote:
Wow! Kennigit is so smart. Hey Kennigit, I have digestive problems, have tried going without gluten and then without lactose, but the abdominal pains remain intermittent and unpredictable. I have no familial histories of digestive disorders, you know what it might be?


Increase your fiber intake and don't eat processed foods for about a week.
If it isn't a digestive disorder (as it isn't in your family history) I would assume a sudden stressor or stimulus (like food poisoning) caused your first abdominal pain and you haven't gotten back into a healthy fiber-filled diet to normalize your digestion.

If you can give us details on your average diet (especially things you are missing, for instance if you have a low fruit, grain or vegetable intake), it would be much easier to diagnose.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 08 2010 22:14 GMT
#12
On February 09 2010 06:54 LxRogue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 06:48 Kennigit wrote:
You probably have shin splints. It's from running on hard surfaces, and you might have flat feet. I used to get it when running long distances in military - best solution was to get custom insoles which are like 130$ or something (if you have flat feet). Otherwise, if you haven't been running that much recently, i would pace yourself until you build up your strength...8 miles seems a bit much after slacking for so long and is probably the cause of the pain.

Try running on a grass field if you have access to one.


I'm pretty sure it's not shin splints. I've felt those before when I was like 15. Plus, the pain is right at the bottom/side of my arch, not in my shins.

Yeah 8 miles was the longest i had gone in a while, but i had run maybe 7 out of the past 10 days and felt pretty good, so the run on Sunday must have caused it. Shin splints are more of a chronic injury.


You say it is a SHARP pain when you walk, so I'm worried that you might have created a stress fracture as well :/
most important thing is to figure out whether or not it is muscular soreness or pain, and then to go on from there. If you find it is muscular pain, I would highly recommend buying some BENGAY(tm) and putting it on the area in question. (I would recommend buying BENGAY even if it isn't a muscular pain, since you seem to be a regular runner: when I ran track, it was a lifesaver).

If it is a more serious injury, I would go to a doctor or someone more knowledgeable, and then try to identify problems in your running form to prevent further occurrences, as taking breaks from running can cause differences in your landing etc. (unless you jumped on a metal rod or something o.o)
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 22:17:39
February 08 2010 22:15 GMT
#13
Pain at the calcaneal tuberosity on the plantar aspect of the foot after extensive exercise is the start of plantar fasciitis.

If you want an analogy it's kinda like "tendonitis" but for the plantar fascia... much like the tibial tuberosity like osgood schlatter's.... or sever's disease for the achilles.

If you don't rest and let it heal -- use ice, self massage, anti-inflams, etc. -- you will likely develop some pretty bad plantar fasciitis and likely get some bone spurs as well.

Fish oil will help as an anti-inflammatory if you want to use it.

Main thing is rest. REST REST REST.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 22:21:58
February 08 2010 22:17 GMT
#14
On February 09 2010 06:45 LxRogue wrote:
Recently I've been getting back into running because I slacked off pretty hard over Christmas/New Years. Yesterday morning I ran about 8 miles, and that afternoon my foot starting hurting fairly sharply.

It doesn't feel bruised or painful when I'm sitting or standing, but when I walk, I get a sharp pain towards the back of my arch. I don't notice any swelling or redness either.

Anyone get in injury like this before? I'm worried it could be a stress fracture, but I've heard that will hurt even when you aren't walking or standing.


hmm that was stupid. if you wanted to run 8 miles, you're clearly a runner, and as such you should know not to get back into things THAT fast.

trim it back down to like 4. then bump up to 5,6, and then 8 over a couple of weeks.

also it sounds like the arch of your foot hurts, so i'd suggest a pair of Asics. its prolly not a stress fracture, those hurt way more.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 08 2010 22:23 GMT
#15
P.S.

It's not a stress fracture although it can devolve into one possible if you keep working it out.

But it's more likely to bone spur or plantar fasciitis than to stress fracture.

1. Don't need another pair of shoes unless yours are worn out. Arch support is overrated -- your arches should be able to handle themselves;

2. and you should be using racing FLATS and nothing with padding because padding does jack crap for preventing injuries.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 08 2010 22:26 GMT
#16
On February 09 2010 06:48 Kennigit wrote:
You probably have shin splints. It's from running on hard surfaces, and you might have flat feet. I used to get it when running long distances in military - best solution was to get custom insoles which are like 130$ or something (if you have flat feet). Otherwise, if you haven't been running that much recently, i would pace yourself until you build up your strength...8 miles seems a bit much after slacking for so long and is probably the cause of the pain.

Try running on a grass field if you have access to one.


As far as I know (I've had chronic shin splint for several years now because of sports) shin splint actually hurts much worse when you're standing than when you're walking.

Pains like this are completely normal when you get right back into sports after a break, I get them so often I don't care at all anymore because they'll go away after a week or so anyway. That's probably not the healthiest way and I'm sure your best solution for the future is to just start again a bit slower, but I really don't think this pain is something to worry about. Most likely it's just an overstrained sinew or something.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
February 08 2010 22:37 GMT
#17
On February 09 2010 07:23 eshlow wrote:
P.S.

It's not a stress fracture although it can devolve into one possible if you keep working it out.

But it's more likely to bone spur or plantar fasciitis than to stress fracture.

1. Don't need another pair of shoes unless yours are worn out. Arch support is overrated -- your arches should be able to handle themselves;

2. and you should be using racing FLATS and nothing with padding because padding does jack crap for preventing injuries.


wearing flats for an 8 mile run is stupid unless its tempo. training running should be done with quality shoes with quality support. its NOT overrated, and it's the easiest way to get injured fast.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 22:45:59
February 08 2010 22:45 GMT
#18
On February 09 2010 07:37 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 07:23 eshlow wrote:
P.S.

It's not a stress fracture although it can devolve into one possible if you keep working it out.

But it's more likely to bone spur or plantar fasciitis than to stress fracture.

1. Don't need another pair of shoes unless yours are worn out. Arch support is overrated -- your arches should be able to handle themselves;

2. and you should be using racing FLATS and nothing with padding because padding does jack crap for preventing injuries.


wearing flats for an 8 mile run is stupid unless its tempo. training running should be done with quality shoes with quality support. its NOT overrated, and it's the easiest way to get injured fast.


I agree IF the person hasn't built up to that level of activity.

The OP clearly overdid it since he is coming back from a break in activity.

Most of the Kenyans/Ethiopians run in flats or barefoot. All long distance runners. The arch was meant, WITH PROPER CONDITIONING, to run long distances.

"Support" is overrated -- no reduction in injury risk
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19387413
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Denotate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada294 Posts
February 08 2010 22:57 GMT
#19
Wow, this is turning into LetsRun.com.

Aside from the debate of 'shoes vs no shoes', I'd say just keep easing into it and keep an eye on the foot to see if the pain persists.

Also, how old are your shoes? You can get away with running in an old pair, but sometimes they get worn down unevenly, and pain can occur in one foot. Do a quick check to see if they're worn asymmetrically (just eyeball it).

I was a competitive runner for almost eight years, and the pain you describe sounds like the discomfort of running after being idle for a while. Just relax, and you'll soon find the culprit.

Cheers -
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 08 2010 22:57 GMT
#20
Replace your blood with bleach

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