EPT[Spoilers] Thoughts on MSL Finals - Page 2
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On January 24 2010 01:06 G.s)NarutO wrote: Imagine it would've been the final set-_-;; that's a good point. Even tho I can accept that the people who know SC better than me say that Jaedong had a big lead, somehow, if it had happened in a final set, I simply can't imagine them awarding that game to Jaedong. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
i really wanted flash to win and its not like i hate jaedong or anything. godamnit | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On January 24 2010 01:30 niteReloaded wrote: that's a good point. Even tho I can accept that the people who know SC better than me say that Jaedong had a big lead, somehow, if it had happened in a final set, I simply can't imagine them awarding that game to Jaedong. Thats not what I wanted to say. | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
I believe however that Flash could obtain indemnities against MBC, based on his loss of a chance to win that match, and the series. Edit : also, + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://s2.hubimg.com/u/2020141_f120.jpg) | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
 Jaedong and  Flash had been playing in front of countless fans in a huge auditorium? Of course not. | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
"What if Jaedong won the third set after fighting it out to the end instead of being given a free win that left a bitter aftertaste on both players? Would Flash have chosen another build for Fighting Spirit? How greatly would that have affected the results today?' "What if MBC was able to prevent this?" These questions will forever remain unanswered, and I rest tonight with a bitter thought. How should I say this. summirez everything i'm felling at the moment... btw keep us updated on the gossips and drama related to this on fomos pleaseee | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
I feel kinda sad that this final always will be remembered as the final, where the lights went out. Both players were playing very well until that s... happened. Game 1 showed perfect mutalisk control, game 2 was fantastically played by flash. (maybe Jaedong thought: "hey, I`m not Kwanro, so let`s give guardians a try  ). Game 3 was completely amazing, almost no mistakes by Jaedong here. And game 4 was just crap. Flash (being on tilt) stupidly all-ined, there's just no excuse for attacking a zerg base with 3 sunks when you`ve got 1 medic in your army. On the other hand, I can understand Flash's rage a bit. He practiced like a maniac, and as a player, who is born to win, he just couldn`t be calm and sit back and say: "well, I would have lost this game almost for sure." I hope they'll face each other again, soon. They are the best players of the world. A final such as this is a disgrace to their skill. | ||
KwarK
United States43808 Posts
On January 24 2010 02:15 littlechava wrote: MBC is incompetent. Kespa is incompetent. I guess we'll just have to accept this in future matches. The problem in this case is that kespa were surprisingly competent. They had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the issue and resolved it fairly, surprising everyone who expected their generic "crash always equals regame" response. Kespa's competence in actually looking at the game before making a decision is what caused all the drama. They really shouldn't be getting any flak here. | ||
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polarwolf
924 Posts
Jaedong cannot be happy about this outcome neither, there will always be voices who say he did not deserve this trophy. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
When a ref. makes a call in any sport in this kind of situation then once the call has been made there must not be any doubt about whether it might be undone. None whatsoever. Allowing for the coaches and parents of players to come and argue against it for nearly an hour is ludicrous; it's detrimental both to the audience (obviously) but also the players! Think about it, if Flash had simply been told "We're awarding JD the point, please prepare for the 4th game" and that was the end of that, then I have no doubt that Flash would have been much more able to put it behind him and play the next game with a clear mind. Instead he has to sit and stew over it for an hour while his parents and coaches flip out. That would have made it exponentially harder to just put it all behind himself and carry on as normal. I mean, making a bad call is one thing, it's human and can be forgiven in the long run. But what they ended up doing called into question the entire integrity of the system, ruined it for the audience and worst of all ruined it for the players (Flash specifically). So no, I don't think they handled it well at all. I think they handled it about as poorly as they possibly could. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On January 24 2010 02:22 KwarK wrote: The problem in this case is that kespa were surprisingly competent. They had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the issue and resolved it fairly, surprising everyone who expected their generic "crash always equals regame" response. Kespa's competence in actually looking at the game before making a decision is what caused all the drama. They really shouldn't be getting any flak here. I already said on a German forum that we got a lose-lose situation and for my part KeSPa did the right thing with giving the win to Jaedong. But like in every lose-lose situation you will never find common ground with the people who support the other decision... I for my part completely agree with you and the decision that was made, lesser evil was chosen. | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
On January 24 2010 02:42 KristianJS wrote: (...) Good post, there should have been no room for debate, I totally agree. | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
On January 24 2010 02:45 G.s)NarutO wrote: I already said on a German forum that we got a lose-lose situation and for my part KeSPa did the right thing with giving the win to Jaedong. But like in every lose-lose situation you will never find common ground with the people who support the other decision... I for my part completely agree with you and the decision that was made, lesser evil was chosen. I'll give you guys that. I was just angry after seeing game 3 end like that, so I jumped on Kespa because they have a history of fuckups. But MBC definitely fucked up here. On January 24 2010 02:42 KristianJS wrote: + Show Spoiler + They didn't handle it well at all. And no, I'm not talking about their decision, which was contestable but probably as fair as any alternative all things considered. I'm talking about how they enforced that decision. When a ref. makes a call in any sport in this kind of situation then once the call has been made there must not be any doubt about whether it might be undone. None whatsoever. Allowing for the coaches and parents of players to come and argue against it for nearly an hour is ludicrous; it's detrimental both to the audience (obviously) but also the players! Think about it, if Flash had simply been told "We're awarding JD the point, please prepare for the 4th game" and that was the end of that, then I have no doubt that Flash would have been much more able to put it behind him and play the next game with a clear mind. Instead he has to sit and stew over it for an hour while his parents and coaches flip out. That would have made it exponentially harder to just put it all behind himself and carry on as normal. I mean, making a bad call is one thing, it's human and can be forgiven in the long run. But what they ended up doing called into question the entire integrity of the system, ruined it for the audience and worst of all ruined it for the players (Flash specifically). So no, I don't think they handled it well at all. I think they handled it about as poorly as they possibly could. I didn't notice this since I watched the games on Youtube. They really took an hour? | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On January 24 2010 01:30 alffla wrote: im fucking disappointed and sad i really wanted flash to win and its not like i hate jaedong or anything. godamnit i try to not think about it... | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
but the greatest thing was+ Show Spoiler + I LB jd,yesss | ||
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keepITup
251 Posts
The power went out. It sucks.I feel equally bad for both players. Did it ruin everything? No, I thought the first half was an enjoyable series to watch. Did it ruin Flash's ability to play? Possibly. But professional players need to play consistently regardless, and I think Flash is a capable and mature enough player to go on with the show with full enthusiasm after such an incident. But really, the rabid fanboyism and hilarious bias seen throughout TL in the past 24 hours is just embarrassing. | ||
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XinRan
United States530 Posts
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