• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:41
CEST 13:41
KST 20:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War445.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)
Tourneys
$3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
TL Sidebar missing streams Mineral Boosting (2 workers/patch) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Rollback Netcode in Brood War [ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9264 users

So you think your finals are bad?

Blogs > ilovezil
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 16:02:36
December 12 2009 15:59 GMT
#1
So I have this philosophy class (Introduction to Logic) where the professor requires absolutely no attendance. This may not be as rare for some of you since some professors may be more lenient than others.

However, my professor not only requires no attenance, but he also gives you the option to take the course at your own pace. That's right. You can complete the course at your given pace if you don't want to attend the normal class sessions. The class grade consists of 80% tests and 20% finals that you may complete whenever you want. There have been students who took all the tests at the end of the semester, a few did well, but most have not.

Well, after the first two weeks of class, I knew I was in trouble when I started feeling completely apathetic to the course. The material was boring, had nothing to do with my major, and the professor had a monotone voice to boot. Not wanting to follow the "self paced plan", I decided to drop the course. That is, I thought I had until I checked my online college login and found an email asking me to fill an online evaluation form for the course. Thinking it was a mistake, I decided to confirm it as a mistake by clicking the course on my account when to my horror, I realized that the course was not dropped. Apparently, you need a signature after a certain date to officially withdraw from a course. Conveniently enough, my professor does not sign ANY withdrawal forms, as his syllabus describes. Oh, life. Kids, don't let this happen to you. Basically, I have essentially neglected almost the entire course until now and on monday, I face I believe 7 full tests from what I have missed during the semester. Then, if I don't have a 90% average, I must also take the finals for the course. Not to mention I have other finals the same week.

Fortunately, the course material lends itself to a self-learning pace. The material all comes directly from chapters 1, 3, 6, and 7 from Patrick Hurley's "A Concise Introduction to Logic", of which the difficulty depends on how well you can apply the information. I still have half of 3 and the full 6 and 7 left.

However! I have had similar situations in past semesters. During the spring semester, I had macro finals I needed to pull a perfect score to get an A (started in this blog and completed here). During the summer semester, I needed to pull a 95% on my physics final that I barely escaped an 89.45% (with gracious rounding) to pull another A. So I just have to think of those 7 tests as finals to 3 chapters of the course! The tests usually consist of around 15 questions, so 105 questions is about what I'm used to for finals. Can I pull off another clutch save for a course? Stay tuned to find out!

To be continued...

BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 12 2009 16:07 GMT
#2
Hahahah, I picked logic for a semester of uni myself, foolishly hopingfor some intense Sherlock Holmes style shit. God, what a fucking stupid mistake. Instead I got a course incredibly similar to maths (my one true weakness, next to science and Dark Templars) that i spent the semester not giving a shit about, with (poor) results. I also had a shitty professer, I attended only 1 lecture the whole semester.

Moral of the story? Logic is for noobs.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
NFL2368
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States112 Posts
December 12 2009 16:10 GMT
#3
Dude this semester, I was picking an elective course and somehow my eye caught on War in the Twentieth Century.

I was like holy shit this is gonna be awesome I can totally use my starcraft knowledge in here

wrong

Most reading of any class I ever took. And all about boring shit like german infantry logistics or moltke or clauswitz

Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
December 12 2009 16:13 GMT
#4
FUCK FINALS.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
December 12 2009 16:36 GMT
#5
giving students completely freedom to do what they want when they want is about the quickest way to set them up for failure. students need deadlines....
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 12 2009 16:56 GMT
#6
So you have 2 days to read 2.5 chapters? Jesus man that's nothing. I have to read 2 books for tuesday and a book for thursday, and write an essay, just work all day long.

On December 13 2009 01:36 BabyRhino wrote:
giving students completely freedom to do what they want when they want is about the quickest way to set them up for failure. students need deadlines....


I disagree, people need to grow up, I don't want to stick to some retarded schedule because my peers are idiots.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
December 12 2009 17:03 GMT
#7
I thought logic was easy and fun. Noob :p
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5225 Posts
December 12 2009 17:19 GMT
#8
Thank god you got an email for the evaluation or you would've been fucked. Philosophy blows. Trying to do my take home final on Nozick and Rawls as we speak.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
kerr0r
Profile Joined September 2008
Norway319 Posts
December 12 2009 17:22 GMT
#9
What's with all these crazy courses people have where homework and tests and shit make up over 50% of their grades? This semester I have two courses where finals are 80% if and only if the results on the finals are worse than the ones on the one (optional) test we have, and two where the grades are 100% finals. Will this change as I start my 3rd or 4th year? Or is this just how we do it in Norway and nowhere else?

Just to clarify: Of course we have to do homework, it just doesn't count towards our grade.
natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
December 12 2009 17:29 GMT
#10
lol, that's ur own fault. i have had to take two finals at the same time in two different years though.
This nigga done stole my bike.
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
December 12 2009 17:43 GMT
#11
adderall
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9564 Posts
December 12 2009 17:49 GMT
#12
Actually, my finals are pretty easy.

I have yet to spend of more than 2 days on any exam I had so far...
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
December 12 2009 17:55 GMT
#13
On December 13 2009 02:22 kerr0r wrote:
What's with all these crazy courses people have where homework and tests and shit make up over 50% of their grades? This semester I have two courses where finals are 80% if and only if the results on the finals are worse than the ones on the one (optional) test we have, and two where the grades are 100% finals. Will this change as I start my 3rd or 4th year? Or is this just how we do it in Norway and nowhere else?

Just to clarify: Of course we have to do homework, it just doesn't count towards our grade.


Yeah... only in high school did homework manage to account for something. My Calc II class last semester the midterms and finals were 95%-100% of the grade.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 12 2009 18:09 GMT
#14
I had one class (history) where the final was 100% of the grade.

Midterm was basically there for if you got better on it than the final it would count for a little bit but not much.

Sucks dude. GL.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 12 2009 18:32 GMT
#15
I've taken logic and used that book as well with the exact same chapters studied. The rules aren't hard, neither are the translations. It's a lot of repetitive work. Just do some of the homework and use the back to verify your answers. As long as you get enough practice, you should be able to get through everything no problem. Believe in your asianness.

Also for chapter 7 make sure you look over the hard ones using all 18 rules. Your professor should allow you to use a rule sheet for the exams, if not then memorize them and write them down first thing. If you get stuck, just keep trying every possible combination, remember you can distribute stuff like (P AND Q) v (A AND B), which would become [(P*Q)vA]*[(P*Q)vB], * = AND.

Don't forget exportation, and also for material implication you can both add and take away a tilda. Commutivity applies to stuff inside brackets too, don't have to single them out. And etc, etc,etc. Look over the strategies, do some problems and you'll be fine. Good Luck.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 12 2009 18:34 GMT
#16
I'm kind of embarassed to admit that this has happened to me more than once... I've had to learn most of a semester's material in a week because I'm just really bad at keeping track of stuff. Too bad I'm not as studious the rest of the year because at that rate I could be out of school in half a semester if I survived.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
December 12 2009 18:36 GMT
#17
On December 13 2009 03:09 eshlow wrote:
I had one class (history) where the final was 100% of the grade.

Midterm was basically there for if you got better on it than the final it would count for a little bit but not much.

Sucks dude. GL.


Damn our university policy says the finals cant count for more than 50%, that would be quite intense weighting so much into one test. Give the possibility that people can have shitty test days
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17850 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 19:06:20
December 12 2009 18:56 GMT
#18
On December 13 2009 01:10 NFL2368 wrote:
Most reading of any class I ever took. And all about boring shit like german infantry logistics or moltke or clauswitz


Dude, Carl von Clausewitz was a genious and his "On War" is a priority lecture for anyone even remotely interested in war (be it military, sociology, psychology, politology and many other fields), hell, it's even greater priority than Sun Tzu.

How is StarCraft knowledge going to relate into IRL warfare? In no way. Trust me on this one, at first I wanted to write my thesis on modern warfare and did a lot of research into this subject.

For those interested, top 2 books:

[image loading]


[image loading]
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
December 12 2009 19:12 GMT
#19
You think your finals are bad? I have a class in my university where the teacher takes a final, and gives a score to each student (normal so far).

The he takes the average of all the grades and everyone above the average passes and everyone below fails.

....
Moderator<:3-/-<
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
December 12 2009 19:21 GMT
#20
On December 13 2009 03:56 Manit0u wrote:
hell, it's even greater priority than Sun Tzu.



Lolno.

And I need like a 100, or maybe like a 99 to get an A- in microecon. Sounds just like you with macro, the fact you did it gives me hope I guess? xD
TranslatorBaa!
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
19:00
#129
Rex vs INexorable
GgMaChine vs HeRoMaRinE
Reynor vs herO
RotterdaM688
IndyStarCraft 140
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 731
Lowko398
mouzHeroMarine 242
IndyStarCraft 143
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35588
Free 5869
Jaedong 1095
BeSt 523
Soulkey 449
Horang2 426
Soma 288
Larva 258
Zeus 239
Last 120
[ Show more ]
sorry 119
actioN 102
Hyun 94
Pusan 82
Mind 76
Sexy 73
Shinee 47
soO 30
scan(afreeca) 19
yabsab 17
Aegong 16
ToSsGirL 15
zelot 11
Sacsri 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5779
Dendi505
XaKoH 324
XcaliburYe183
Counter-Strike
byalli575
Other Games
gofns41045
singsing2230
Coldzera 698
B2W.Neo539
Pyrionflax245
ToD129
trigger5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV225
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 19
• Adnapsc2 18
• LUISG 18
• Gemini_19 12
• Light_VIP 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV395
League of Legends
• Jankos3950
Upcoming Events
Online Event
19m
TaKeTV 0
AI Arena Tournament
5h 19m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
7h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 19m
Patches Events
1d 3h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 7h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 7h
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Online Event
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.