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Current Rank: D [1704] 22 - 35
Most used map: (4)Python 22-30
So I haven't played StarCraft since December and just started playing ICCup late last week again. I played a fair few games today (about 10+) but I can't seem to lay waste to these damned Protoss.
Overall, my win ratio is about 39% out of 57 games. Nothing to boast about but, I'm not expecting anything great here.
My TvZ win ratio is about 61% and my TvP ratio is at a dismal 26%. TERRIBLE.
I don't know what it is exactly. Perhaps it's the Dragoon count or my timing at basic levels, but I keep getting caught with my pants down in this match up.
Today I even got beat down by one kid who just mass expo'd. All he made was Dark Templars and Probes; And I know that because I checked the BWchart. He miraculously secured an extra main + its natural by simply setting up photon cannons everywhere around the map. After scrambling back and forth to destroy as many expos as possible, he ended up hiding an extra nexus and the game spun out of control anyway.
Its more painful playing the game than watching it. During the game I end up just watching it slowly slip through my fingers. And then acknowledging the fact during the replay that what each Protoss did was so simple that even my god damned 2 year old cousin could have pulled it off.
By the end of the game (18 mins later) I typed out and called the kid a cheater like a little baby. There's gotta be a better way to whoop Protoss' ass. I've been using a number of builds but mostly 2fact tank, 1factcc, and FD (most common to least common).
I'm beginning to recognize more facet moves that are required during the game to keep an advantage or give myself a new opportunity in the game but Protoss is so damn easy to play I can't seem to get anything going.
I also seem to throw many games away by moving out way too soon. I have the tendency to get ahead of myself sometimes.
But anyway I am gonna keep posting my improvements and findings every few days or so.
  
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Idk...but u should game with me. I'm a D zerg and want to get better. iscout4u on iccup. Shows my rank as D+. Thats only cuz ive played 300 games this season lol.
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lol i have this problem too. i have a 39% total win rate with 30% winrate vs P.
this is the only reason im stuck at D+
not exactly sure wat ur problem is, but mine is being outmacroed. miss a depot and its gg
also timing is VERY important in this matchup
make sure u scout well and counter whatever hes going for.
lol i absolutely hate dts, but u can counter them with mines...
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T.O.P.
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Vultures + Science Vessels > DTs + probes.
Alternatively, I think SK terran would work well too.
On a more serious note, I think TvP is much harder nowdays since a lot of protoss are going dt rush into Arbitors. That build owns.
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yea. I think what killed me was the astonishment of my opponent actually mass expoing in the fashion he did and then slowly allowing him to get away with it. The play is actually quite remarkable at some level rofl even if it was absolutely ghastly.
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Typical Terran. Bashing Protoss as "easy" to play when he realizes TvP is not imbalanced like TvZ.
Stop whining and actually practice. If he makes substantial number of DT's, he's wasting gas if you are prepared for detection
PvT is harder than TvP at higher levels, or at least thats what me + my friends believe
EDIT: What makes your blog post worse is that you admitted that you were trash talking to the opponent just because you lost. And you don't even feel remorse for it. BM as hell =/
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On December 08 2009 16:21 T.O.P. wrote:
Vultures + Science Vessels > DTs + probes.
Alternatively, I think SK terran would work well too.
On a more serious note, I think TvP is much harder nowdays since a lot of protoss are going dt rush into Arbitors. That build owns.
Rushing straight to archives then building one or even zero DTs is such a great build at D level. Scares terrans so bad they don't expand for 2 years. I once had a terran GG before I even attacked him because I took 4 bases at about the same time he took his nat.
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Any replays? I think you'll find those are really useful in finding out whats wrong
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Yea, but we aren't talking higher levels are we? We're talking D rank. I could just say "Haaa, typical Protoss bitching that it isn't easier than Terran; That's why he plays Protoss. [lolz]
In actuality I gg'd out even though the game hadn't gotten out of control yet. I just didn't think I had the multitasking to finish the game. I also didn't want to spend the next 30 + minutes trying to get back into the game.
Protoss mass expo play > ADHD
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On December 08 2009 16:29 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 16:21 T.O.P. wrote:
Vultures + Science Vessels > DTs + probes.
Alternatively, I think SK terran would work well too.
On a more serious note, I think TvP is much harder nowdays since a lot of protoss are going dt rush into Arbitors. That build owns. Rushing straight to archives then building one or even zero DTs is such a great build at D level. Scares terrans so bad they don't expand for 2 years. I once had a terran GG before I even attacked him because I took 4 bases at about the same time he took his nat.
yea thats what basically happened.
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LOL i even have been experimenting with firebat, medic, tank build. It's a riot 
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On December 08 2009 16:27 AzureEye wrote:
EDIT: What makes your blog post worse is that you admitted that you were trash talking to the opponent just because you lost. And you don't even feel remorse for it. BM as hell =/
I'm not gong to apologize. I'm just going to regret and try to get better. Some Ukraine fuck named kriv0y did it. If you know him and he wants an apology, tell him I'll think about it.
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It's okay, the first season I ever played on iCCup I had like a 20-30% winrate for ZvT. The last season I played I bumped it up to 40-50% but it was mainly due to me getting pissed off and playing really abusive builds rather than because of a serious increase in management skill for the matchup.
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On December 08 2009 16:11 NastyMarine wrote:
My TvZ win ratio is about 61% and my TvP ratio is at a dismal 26%. TERRIBLE.
Terrible, TERRIBLE win-ratio!
I find TvP hard myself.
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On December 08 2009 16:27 AzureEye wrote:
Typical Terran. Bashing Protoss as "easy" to play when he realizes TvP is not imbalanced like TvZ.
Stop whining and actually practice. If he makes substantial number of DT's, he's wasting gas if you are prepared for detection
PvT is harder than TvP at higher levels, or at least thats what me + my friends believe
EDIT: What makes your blog post worse is that you admitted that you were trash talking to the opponent just because you lost. And you don't even feel remorse for it. BM as hell =/
Finally someone of another race says this.
On December 08 2009 16:51 lazz wrote:
dont play on python, it's a terrible map. if you do play on it just 2 fac or 6-7 fac all in off 2 base.
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dont play on python, it's a terrible map. if you do play on it just 2 fac or 6-7 fac all in off 2 base.
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I played you today :D
That was probably my worst game of the season too. Remember the goons at your nat forever, that was me. I was only able to harass you for so long because you let me delay your rax and fac long enough that I could get that zealot in there and my goons kept your tank count really low.
Try doing the siege expand and do not let anything make you stop building your rax and first factory, toss can do whatever he wants without you having enough tanks up.
You did harass well, my economy was fucked up the entire game until I got my 4-5 bases.
Even though the game went on forever you never got any (or 1?) upgrades and I just simply a-moved over your army every time.
But to be fair I did just start on this account and I am D+ish.
I reckon you should Liquipedia it up:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Siege_Expand
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss)
They should help you a lot, you've probably already looked at these, but just in case you haven't, there you go.
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Colosseum. Flash build every time. If you see him mass expoing, just push out. I guarantee it'll work at D level. Just watch out for DTs.
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On December 08 2009 16:50 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 16:27 AzureEye wrote:
Typical Terran. Bashing Protoss as "easy" to play when he realizes TvP is not imbalanced like TvZ.
Stop whining and actually practice. If he makes substantial number of DT's, he's wasting gas if you are prepared for detection
PvT is harder than TvP at higher levels, or at least thats what me + my friends believe
EDIT: What makes your blog post worse is that you admitted that you were trash talking to the opponent just because you lost. And you don't even feel remorse for it. BM as hell =/ Finally someone of another race says this.
I think its been a known fact for a while now that TvZ at lower levels is very imbalanced in favour of terran o_o
just as PvT is in favour of protoss
ZvP is imbalanced all over :D
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