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Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
December 08 2009 01:05 GMT
#1
If you read in my thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=107279
I got arrested for possession of a drug paraphernalia even though the item was found in my friend's vehicle. It was found in the front passenger seat but it was in a walmart plastic bag. I want to fight the charges because the only reason that the police charged me with it was i did not want to talk to them. My friends talked and they were not arrested.
Feel free to send me a pm

*
I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 2009 OK???????????????
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 08 2009 01:10 GMT
#2
Isn't the thread in general kind of where 6 pages of comments/advice are already given?

I don't see why you made the thread if you were expecting comments like "Shitty deal.", "I got arrested last year for that too.", etc.

On topic though, I don't know any more about these legal issues than you do.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
December 08 2009 01:15 GMT
#3
how much are you willing to pay
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sS.NuB
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Angola107 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 01:22:52
December 08 2009 01:22 GMT
#4
On December 08 2009 10:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
how much are you willing to pay


lol
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
December 08 2009 01:25 GMT
#5
On a related note I would like to thank Officer Wang for pulling me over on my way home last night. He asked me if i was drinking. I replied I dont drink. He asked where I was coming from. I said my girlfrineds ouse. He said thats great, but where does she live. I said Palo Alto He asked where I was headed. I said home. He said thats great, but where do u live. I said Santa Clara. He asked how fast I thought i was going. I said 70. He said thats too fast. I said, but i was behind you and u slowed down to pull me over. He said I can go as fast as I want. He asked why I was driving so late. I said becuase im up so late. He asked why im up so late. I said because i work swing shift. wtf is with all the questions man....thanks for the warning though
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DustBowl
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 01:28:26
December 08 2009 01:27 GMT
#6
I don't want to derail this thread into uncomfortable territory but I have a bit of experience in these matters. I'd say the best case scenario would be to get a lawyer. However, even for a case like this it would cost you ~$1000 even for a moron in a suit. IMO it's not worth it but it's up to you of course. It depends on whether you've already told your parents, want to tell your parents, and whether or not your parents can afford it and/or care enough. A more realistic option would be to meet with a lawyer for a free consultation. All consultations are free. Your case sounds like complete bullshit so if the lawyer's a nice enough guy he might even get your case dismissed for you no charge if he knows the judge well enough. However, I live in New York and drug charges like this aren't taken too seriously, so don't get your hopes up.

After that your best bet is to meet with your District Attorney personally. You'll probably have to wait in line for a very long time but it will certainly be worth it. Feed him a lot of bullshit and agree to submit drug tests for as long as he wants (almost certainly won't be longer than 6 months). Make sure to bring a lot of documentation in support of your character. Print out your report cards and shit and make sure to let him know that you're a student athlete or that you're on the debate team or whatever (don't lie however). Another option to consider if you have health insurance is to get a drug evaluation and comply with their demands. This would entail involving your parents though. Anyways, don't be too honest at your evaluation as there's literally no point, it doesn't really sound like you have a problem. Say you use at parties occasionally or something. They'll probably only want urine screens over a ~6 month period, in my experience less, but again, I don't want to get your hopes up and legal systems definitely vary quite a bit over this vast, fucktarded, nation.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
December 08 2009 01:28 GMT
#7
Lol Officer Wang..what a name.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 08 2009 01:31 GMT
#8
500$ for a consultation.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
December 08 2009 01:35 GMT
#9
It's a violation of state law to give "legal advice" without being licensed to practice law in that state.

Hi fixed, I live in Santa Clara too. High five.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
December 08 2009 02:15 GMT
#10
You are guilty by association. The fact that your friends got off has nothing to do with it. I checked the details of your charges in the other thread and it says you're getting off with a misdemeanor. Take that and leave it. It won't be on your permanent record. A lawyer will seriously cost you so much it's not even worth it.
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 02:25:21
December 08 2009 02:19 GMT
#11
a misdemeanor stay on ur record for 7 years i believe.

also virtual high five to shadow

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Elwinros
Profile Joined December 2009
United States93 Posts
December 08 2009 02:39 GMT
#12
Go to a bookstore and get "Law for Dummies" and represent yourself.
Entry level StarCraft players -_-
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
December 08 2009 03:06 GMT
#13
The charge for paraphernelia sounds like bullshit. Challenge them to find proof that you've ever bought it. Obviously i'm not a lawyer but if you can't provide a receipt/check and your friend can i'm pretty sure there's absolutely no way they can charge you with it.

Also you should be happy you got a misdemeanor.
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
December 08 2009 03:23 GMT
#14
Quick all the people that aren't lawyers offer up you opinion.

In my state if you are in the car you get charged. That's how it is
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 08 2009 03:36 GMT
#15
On December 08 2009 12:06 ghermination wrote:
The charge for paraphernelia sounds like bullshit. Challenge them to find proof that you've ever bought it. Obviously i'm not a lawyer but if you can't provide a receipt/check and your friend can i'm pretty sure there's absolutely no way they can charge you with it.

Also you should be happy you got a misdemeanor.
what? that's like getting caught with drugs in general and saying PROVE THAT I BOUGHT IT, I GOT NO RECEIPT. and the friend isn't going to go "oh shoot he don't got a receipt but i do". what is going to make the police accept the excuse that you "can't provide a receipt/check".

and yes there's absolutely a way they can charge him with it. they found him with it. in a car. and from the sounds of it he refused to cooperate with their questioning.
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Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
December 08 2009 03:46 GMT
#16
On December 08 2009 12:23 cgrinker wrote:
Quick all the people that aren't lawyers offer up you opinion.

In my state if you are in the car you get charged. That's how it is


ya i know....funny asking TL for advice. I only commented on the misdemeanor staying on ones record for 7 years. Since i had one. And if i recall correctly it stayed for 7 years....or maybe it was 5 idk lol.
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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
December 08 2009 04:19 GMT
#17
On December 08 2009 12:23 cgrinker wrote:
In my state if you are in the car you get charged. That's how it is


Yerp.
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 08 2009 05:02 GMT
#18
Find a lawyer your parents know or something and just call them. You want to know all of your options and a lawyer will help you with that.

Also, ask about getting deferred judgment, which will get the minor misdemeanor that your charge probably is taken off of your record after a year.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
December 08 2009 05:30 GMT
#19
lol ul be fine dont pay shit.
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