EPTThe rules state that "any cards in the chosen pile that you can't play or you choose not to play remain exiled." Does this mean I can't play them later on - If the pile I choose has a counterspell in it, can I wait and use it later?
[q] MTG - Brilliant Ultimatum
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seppolevne
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The rules state that "any cards in the chosen pile that you can't play or you choose not to play remain exiled." Does this mean I can't play them later on - If the pile I choose has a counterspell in it, can I wait and use it later? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 07 2009 03:46 seppolevne wrote: Just a question about Brilliant Ultimatum The rules state that "any cards in the chosen pile that you can't play or you choose not to play remain exiled." Does this mean I can't play them later on - If the pile I choose has a counterspell in it, can I wait and use it later? All the cards have to get played immediately. The act of playing the cards is part of the resolution of the spell. This is of course, what makes Brilliant Ultimatum terrible (it's bad in every constructed format, and an extremely late pick in limited) -- the opponent can look at the context of the game, and split a bunch of dead cards into both piles. | ||
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inReacH
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TheYango
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Deleted User 3420
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DivinO
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Lemonwalrus
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http://magiccards.info/query/cards/9913091.html Yeah, all the other ones are pretty decent, that one just sucks. | ||
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seppolevne
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Deleted User 3420
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On December 07 2009 04:25 Lemonwalrus wrote: Wow, for that cost that is a really crappy ability. And iirc all most of the ultimatums are crazy good. (like play this spell = you pretty much are going to win now) http://magiccards.info/query/cards/9913091.html Yeah, all the other ones are pretty decent, that one just sucks. i think like a million decks were made around cruel ultimatum | ||
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Lemonwalrus
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GogoKodo
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TheYango
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On December 07 2009 04:51 GogoKodo wrote: The only other ultimatum that I can think of that has seen use is Violent, but only just recently. And the deck 'Magical Xmasland' is seen to be pretty hit or miss. Violent, Titanic, and Cruel are all game-winning bombs in limited, so while Titanic and Violent may not be as good in constructed, they're still noteworthy. Clarion and Brilliant are just awful in every format, though. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2757 Posts
On December 07 2009 04:23 El.Divino wrote: I love that we're all experts on Magic: The Gathering here. Isn't it called "Magic Gather?" | ||
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Severedevil
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Not in the U.S. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
http://wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/worlds09/video4 Here's the magic christmasland deck that played 4 violent ultimatums, with 4 cruel ultimatums in the sideboard. Takes guts to bring this to the world championships =D The other 3 ultimatums are pretty trash though. Maybe some allies deck could break clarion ultimatum? | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
if you can't, they are out forever | ||
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Icysoul
Canada254 Posts
i think hes referring to a joke in day9's cast. | ||
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akevin
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caldo149
United States469 Posts
On a side note, Steel Wall has 4 HP. | ||
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
On December 07 2009 05:42 akevin wrote: Wow, what edition are they on now? I don't think I have any cards past things like 4th Ed., Ice Age, etc. Quit like 10+ years ago. "Magic 2010" Which is actually the 11th. Once they got to ten, it seemed like a good idea to stop naming sets increasingly larger numbers. As a side note, I also quit after ice age. But I came back for Mirrodin (3 years ago now?)...trust me, Magic is a LOT better now than it was. Also, popularity and attendance at tournaments have been skyrocketing. | ||
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
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orgolove
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On December 07 2009 05:42 akevin wrote: Wow, what edition are they on now? I don't think I have any cards past things like 4th Ed., Ice Age, etc. Quit like 10+ years ago. Wooow some of your cards may be worth quite a lot of money. Check out their prices. You never know if you have a gem or two in your stash. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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On December 07 2009 06:36 miseiler wrote: As a side note, I also quit after ice age. But I came back for Mirrodin (3 years ago now?)...trust me, Magic is a LOT better now than it was. Mirrodin was like my fresh year in HS, I'm a soph in college now... so 5 years-ish Cruel Ultimatum is the best of the bunch, imo, like everyone has said you can just break the game with it. This card is balls. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
On December 07 2009 08:04 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Mirrodin was like my fresh year in HS, I'm a soph in college now... so 5 years-ish Cruel Ultimatum is the best of the bunch, imo, like everyone has said you can just break the game with it. This card is balls. Cruel ulti 7 for 1 <3 <3 <3 | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
Isn't it an 8 for 1, if your opponent has a creature and you have a creature in your graveyard? Though, I guess a lot of the time your opponent wont have 3 cards to discard when you play this. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
In Canadian universities apparently. | ||
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Equaoh
Canada427 Posts
Magic, The Gatherer? | ||
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